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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#241 » by KGdaBom » Mon Dec 7, 2020 8:01 am

theGreatRC wrote:If he has a playoff Tyler Herro type of rookie year, would you want more or be fine with that?

I want and expect much more. :o
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Post#242 » by urinesane » Mon Dec 7, 2020 8:41 am

The guy is saying the right things and has the right mindset coming in. I'm pleasantly surprised so far with Edwards, I hope we see the mentality change in his game this season.
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Post#243 » by BadWolf » Mon Dec 7, 2020 10:17 am

Jedzz wrote:I think that last thing the team needs is everyone go joe salesman on the hype/projecting and hope before the season for him. Let the player earn it for once, don't expect it immediately for once. For once would that be possible? Probably not.


It's much more to the norm to go all doom and gloom and despair before the games.
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Post#244 » by Neeva » Mon Dec 7, 2020 11:04 am

I think Antman will quickly become my favorite player on the team.
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Post#245 » by Klomp » Mon Dec 7, 2020 1:30 pm

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Macwolf527 wrote:There’s something special about Edwards that’s unfolding before us everyday, and it doesn’t seem forced. I believe this is the real Anthony.

Agreed. While we may not get a James or Duncan type player from this draft, I don't think he'll be a Bennett or Bargnani either.....I think he coul easily settle in as a Simmons, Griffin type. Might take a few years, but he can get there.


I'll wait for games. Talk has been cheap for too many years.

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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#246 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 7, 2020 3:58 pm

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Klomp wrote:Agreed. While we may not get a James or Duncan type player from this draft, I don't think he'll be a Bennett or Bargnani either.....I think he coul easily settle in as a Simmons, Griffin type. Might take a few years, but he can get there.


I'll wait for games. Talk has been cheap for too many years.

OK, we'll see you back on the forums in a couple weeks then. Have a nice vacation.


I will take a vacation from reading your hype and twitter dups during this time. Yes.
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Post#247 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 7, 2020 4:01 pm

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Jedzz wrote:I think that last thing the team needs is everyone go joe salesman on the hype/projecting and hope before the season for him. Let the player earn it for once, don't expect it immediately for once. For once would that be possible? Probably not.


It's much more to the norm to go all doom and gloom and despair before the games.


Well, team-wise yes that is the norm. Top draft pick wise complete opposite. Always seems to be a sales crew for the top pick further selling the instant amazingness we can expect. I would rather focus on the bulk of the team going in but that's just me.
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Post#248 » by Klomp » Mon Dec 7, 2020 4:06 pm

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Jedzz wrote:I think that last thing the team needs is everyone go joe salesman on the hype/projecting and hope before the season for him. Let the player earn it for once, don't expect it immediately for once. For once would that be possible? Probably not.


It's much more to the norm to go all doom and gloom and despair before the games.


Well, team-wise yes that is the norm. Top draft pick wise complete opposite. Always seems to be a sales crew for the top pick further selling the instant amazingness we can expect. I would rather focus on the bulk of the team going in but that's just me.

So don't click on this thread if you don't want to read about the rookie?
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#249 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 7, 2020 4:12 pm

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Jedzz wrote:
BadWolf wrote:
It's much more to the norm to go all doom and gloom and despair before the games.


Well, team-wise yes that is the norm. Top draft pick wise complete opposite. Always seems to be a sales crew for the top pick further selling the instant amazingness we can expect. I would rather focus on the bulk of the team going in but that's just me.

So don't click on this thread if you don't want to read about the rookie?


Reading about news on the rookie, or reading expectations and hype about 25 ppg and being all defense and handling multiple roles or whatever as a rookie...not the same thing. As usual, before the season starts he will be expected to start and carry all the teams chances for the season for some here. These are the posts it will be my task to start avoiding.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#250 » by KGdaBom » Mon Dec 7, 2020 4:56 pm

Jedzz wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
Well, team-wise yes that is the norm. Top draft pick wise complete opposite. Always seems to be a sales crew for the top pick further selling the instant amazingness we can expect. I would rather focus on the bulk of the team going in but that's just me.

So don't click on this thread if you don't want to read about the rookie?


Reading about news on the rookie, or reading expectations and hype about 25 ppg and being all defense and handling multiple roles or whatever as a rookie...not the same thing. As usual, before the season starts he will be expected to start and carry all the teams chances for the season for some here. These are the posts it will be my task to start avoiding.

I think as a board we are being incredibly reserved about a player taken #1 overall in the draft. Almost nobody is even declaring him a day one starter. I don't remember anybody predicting 20 PPG or even all rookie status. About the most hype you will find is the expectation for him to start eventually.
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Post#251 » by Norseman79 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 5:25 pm

This is a mixed bag. It is natural to expect a number 1 overall, especially a 2/3 to be transcendent. That is why they are 1 overall. However, as most noted, this draft was very weak at the top. Which has to be taken into account. Myself, I have high expectations. However, what most people aren't addressing is how he will be used. Will Ryan use him as an alpha? Or will he be brought in as a supporting member to Russell and Towns. Personally I hope Edwards goes Jimmy Butler (but in a respectful, I don't need to run my mouth when I just owned you sort of way) on their candy asses in practice and forces Saunders hand. Otherwise, you could see him turn into a complacent, sit off to the side and watch type (my nightmare). Coaches need to see that Kat and Russell are not the leaders a championship team has, but they are perfect wingmen.
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Post#252 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 7, 2020 6:13 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
Klomp wrote:So don't click on this thread if you don't want to read about the rookie?


Reading about news on the rookie, or reading expectations and hype about 25 ppg and being all defense and handling multiple roles or whatever as a rookie...not the same thing. As usual, before the season starts he will be expected to start and carry all the teams chances for the season for some here. These are the posts it will be my task to start avoiding.

I think as a board we are being incredibly reserved about a player taken #1 overall in the draft. Almost nobody is even declaring him a day one starter. I don't remember anybody predicting 20 PPG or even all rookie status. About the most hype you will find is the expectation for him to start eventually.


It might take 5 or 10 minutes to find the examples so I won't. But they are littered all over here. In this thread even. So for you, someone who obviously reads a lot here because you plus1 nearly everything, I find it funny you claiming not to see them. These are the reminders for me to stop opening your posts.
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Post#253 » by KGdaBom » Mon Dec 7, 2020 6:16 pm

Jedzz wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
Reading about news on the rookie, or reading expectations and hype about 25 ppg and being all defense and handling multiple roles or whatever as a rookie...not the same thing. As usual, before the season starts he will be expected to start and carry all the teams chances for the season for some here. These are the posts it will be my task to start avoiding.

I think as a board we are being incredibly reserved about a player taken #1 overall in the draft. Almost nobody is even declaring him a day one starter. I don't remember anybody predicting 20 PPG or even all rookie status. About the most hype you will find is the expectation for him to start eventually.


It might take 5 or 10 minutes to find the examples so I won't. But they are littered all over here. In this thread even. So for you, someone who obviously reads a lot here because you plus1 nearly everything, I find it funny you claiming not to see them. These are the reminders for me to stop opening your posts.

I'm going to look at the posts from the Anthony Edwards thread page by page.
Page 1. Not one single post hyping him.
Page 2 One person said he thought we got the best player in the draft. He was picked #1. No predictions of anything he would do.
Page 3 One person from Atlanta saying he's going to be a star and others whining about Rosas repeatedly saying get to work.
Page 4 Not one post declaring any greatness whatsoever.
Page 5 One person said he's going to be so good. No predictions
Page 6 Calinks saying that with a couple if's to be determined he feeling pretty damn good about him.
That's the first 6 pages and barely any hype whatsoever. Actually a lot of reservations and negativity to be found. Maybe more hype type posts are found from 7-13. I will get to them.
Page 7 I said Skies the limit for him and he could develop into a superstar. Minimus got excited about his Ht,Wt and Vert
Page 8 One person said a mix of Oladipo and Westbrook physically. No prediction of greatness.
Page 9 Not one post of any hype whatsoever. One person saying he was already an afterthought in all the excitement over Rubio's return. The opposite of hype. 4 Pages to go. Man this mountain of hype over Edwards is overwhelming me.
Page 10 Some discussion of his physical gifts. Not much to argue about that. No hype. No predictions of greatness.
Page 11 Phil Blackson not a Wolves board poster said he will be a star. Rookie Mistake talking about the lack of hype for Edwards being very noticeable.
Page 12 Klomp saying he could eventually get to the Simmons/Griffin level. Not predicting he will.
Page 13. Me saying I want and expect more than Tyler Herro.
That's your hype Jedzz. You wouldn't take 5 or 10 minutes so I took an hour for you. The lack of hype over Edwards is actually baffling. I haven't looked, but I would bet there's far more hype over Obi Toppin on the Knicks board.
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Post#254 » by Dewey » Mon Dec 7, 2020 6:44 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I think as a board we are being incredibly reserved about a player taken #1 overall in the draft. Almost nobody is even declaring him a day one starter. I don't remember anybody predicting 20 PPG or even all rookie status. About the most hype you will find is the expectation for him to start eventually.


It might take 5 or 10 minutes to find the examples so I won't. But they are littered all over here. In this thread even. So for you, someone who obviously reads a lot here because you plus1 nearly everything, I find it funny you claiming not to see them. These are the reminders for me to stop opening your posts.

I'm going to look at the posts from the Anthony Edwards thread page by page.
Page 1. Not one single post hyping him.
Page 2 One person said he thought we got the best player in the draft. He was picked #1. No predictions of anything he would do.
Page 3 One person from Atlanta saying he's going to be a star and whining about Rosas repeatedly saying get to work.
Page 4 Not one post declaring any greatness whatsoever.
Page 5 One person said he's going to be so good. No predictions
Page 6 Calinks saying that with a couple if's to be determined he feeling pretty damn good about him.
That's the first 6 pages and barely any hype whatsoever. Actually a lot of reservations and negativity to be found. Maybe more hype type posts are found from 7-13. I will get to them.
Page 7 I said Skies the limit for him and he could develop into a superstar. Minimus got excited about his Ht,Wt and Vert
Page 8.

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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#255 » by Macwolf527 » Tue Dec 8, 2020 6:17 am

Jedzz wrote:I think that last thing the team needs is everyone go joe salesman on the hype/projecting and hope before the season for him. Let the player earn it for once, don't expect it immediately for once. For once would that be possible? Probably not.


I’m more impressed by his mindset than his play at this point. I have no expectations of him setting the league on fire out the gate. However, his answers have a certain amount of wisdom to them, which opens him up to receiving instruction. Combine this with his willingness to be coached by Vanterpool, a guy with a resume for developing young guards, is just encouraging.

So many young players get in their own way by expecting props, before putting in the work. It just seems as if he’s willing to do the work first. How can you not root for a guy like that?
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Post#256 » by packforfreedom » Tue Dec 8, 2020 7:05 am

I am warming up on him. he seems like a genuinly nice kid and we might be onto something here.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#257 » by Jedzz » Tue Dec 8, 2020 8:23 am

KGdaBom wrote:
theGreatRC wrote:If he has a playoff Tyler Herro type of rookie year, would you want more or be fine with that?

I want and expect much more. :o


Herro's confidence and gameIQ as a rookie would be a tall order. He can aim for the shooting level at least. I heard a past NBA player suggest Herro's confidence seen as a rookie was born of growing up/playing in Milwaukee area where it's apparently a rough environment where you earn your stripes and a thick skin playing on those courts. Not sure if true, just passing it along.
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Post#258 » by urinesane » Tue Dec 8, 2020 8:56 am

Jedzz wrote:
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Well, team-wise yes that is the norm. Top draft pick wise complete opposite. Always seems to be a sales crew for the top pick further selling the instant amazingness we can expect. I would rather focus on the bulk of the team going in but that's just me.

So don't click on this thread if you don't want to read about the rookie?


Reading about news on the rookie, or reading expectations and hype about 25 ppg and being all defense and handling multiple roles or whatever as a rookie...not the same thing. As usual, before the season starts he will be expected to start and carry all the teams chances for the season for some here. These are the posts it will be my task to start avoiding.


There's a difference between hope and expectations. I've heard hopes here, not expectations.

I was the biggest Wiseman guy on this board pre-draft and was probably the biggest non-believer in Ball. Edwards was not impressive to me as a #1 pick based on college, but I like what I've seen so far and I would MUCH prefer to be wrong about him, so that's what I'm hoping for.

Personally I don't expect much out of him other than to show flashes and progress throughout the season (which is what I tend to expect from any rookie regardless of their athleticism/potential). I haven't heard a single person put any sort of franchise savior hype/expectations on him (except that argument you seem to be having with yourself :wink: )

I hope he's awesome. I don't expect it, but I'll appreciate the hell out of it if it happens.
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Re: Official Anthony Edwards Thread 

Post#259 » by KGdaBom » Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:46 pm

IMO the charge called against Edwards last night was total bull hockey. That was a star player play.
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Post#260 » by Klomp » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:51 pm

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