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I don't care about Nash's success post Suns at all. Whether it be the Lakers, Warriors, Nets, wherever.

I don't begrudge him that much for wanting to go to LA as we were not exactly surrounding him with much talent, but asking to be traded to a direct rival is far worse in my mind than what Amare did. Amare would have signed with us had we offered him what NY did, but we wouldn't because insurance wasn't going to cover it, and NY was willing to take that risk...so we basically let him go and really didn't make an effort to sign him.

I don't care if people check out several places in FA....they should.

Steve could have just left us, he did a sign and trade so we could get four draft picks, one of which turned into Bridges. Amare was under contract when he was bragging about how well he would do on other teams while he was still playing for us. Not only that, he was bragging about stuff he could do for other teams, that he wasn't doing for the team he was playing for, us.

I don't get how the Nash thing is worse, but ok. We did offer Amare a huge contract, we just had restrictions on that contract due to his injuries. He chose to not take it. We did him a favor by doing a sign and trade. Now what we did with the trade exception sucked, but that is moot now. In the Nash deal, it was a win win for both us and Nash.

[bwgood77]

I don't care about Nash's success post Suns at all. Whether it be the Lakers, Warriors, Nets, wherever.

I don't begrudge him that much for wanting to go to LA as we were not exactly surrounding him with much talent, but asking to be traded to a direct rival is far worse in my mind than what Amare did. Amare would have signed with us had we offered him what NY did, but we wouldn't because insurance wasn't going to cover it, and NY was willing to take that risk...so we basically let him go and really didn't make an effort to sign him.

I don't care if people check out several places in FA....they should.

Steve could have just left us, he did a sign and trade so we could get four draft picks, one of which turned into Bridges. Amare was under contract when he was bragging about how well he would do on other teams while he was still playing for us. Not only that, he was bragging about stuff he could do for other teams, that he wasn't doing for the team he was playing for, us.

I don't get how the Nash thing is worse, but ok. We did offer Amare a huge contract, we just had restrictions on that contract due to his injuries. He chose to not take it. We did him a favor by doing a sign and trade. Now what we did with the trade exception sucked, but that is moot now. In the Nash deal, it was a win win for both us and Nash.

I don't recall getting much in a S&T for Amare...didn't even remember it being one. But I know we couldn't get it insured, so wouldn't offer him what the Knicks did, since they were ok without insurance.

One of the 1st round picks for Knight ended up pretty worthless, and the other was traded to Philly for us to get Knight (a restricted FA). Philly did use that to take Bridges, but we only were able to trade up to get him by trading another future unprotected Miami pick (from the Dragic trade) to Philly.

[lilfishi22]

Nash's only betrayal in my mind is askin to be traded to a direct rival. I don't even cared that he played for the Lakers, it's more that he asked to go to the Lakers which is treacherous.

But aside from that, I love the guy, he's STILL my favourite player of all time and I want nothing but success and happiness for him, including his new post in Brooklyn.

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It begins. Good luck Charlotte....

The fact it looks so bad makes me think I'm either not with the times anymore, or I don't know what. Who sees that and thinks, "An ugly look AND poor investment??? Sign me up!"

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It begins. Good luck Charlotte....

The fact it looks so bad makes me think I'm either not with the times anymore, or I don't know what. Who sees that and thinks, "An ugly look AND poor investment??? Sign me up!"

I dunno if they think it looks good or bad but more that you're so "rich" that it doesn't matter

[RunDogGun]

I don't care about Nash's success post Suns at all. Whether it be the Lakers, Warriors, Nets, wherever.

I don't begrudge him that much for wanting to go to LA as we were not exactly surrounding him with much talent, but asking to be traded to a direct rival is far worse in my mind than what Amare did. Amare would have signed with us had we offered him what NY did, but we wouldn't because insurance wasn't going to cover it, and NY was willing to take that risk...so we basically let him go and really didn't make an effort to sign him.

I don't care if people check out several places in FA....they should.

Steve could have just left us, he did a sign and trade so we could get four draft picks, one of which turned into Bridges. Amare was under contract when he was bragging about how well he would do on other teams while he was still playing for us. Not only that, he was bragging about stuff he could do for other teams, that he wasn't doing for the team he was playing for, us.

I don't get how the Nash thing is worse, but ok. We did offer Amare a huge contract, we just had restrictions on that contract due to his injuries. He chose to not take it. We did him a favor by doing a sign and trade. Now what we did with the trade exception sucked, but that is moot now. In the Nash deal, it was a win win for both us and Nash.

I don't recall getting much in a S&T for Amare...didn't even remember it being one. But I know we couldn't get it insured, so wouldn't offer him what the Knicks did, since they were ok without insurance.

One of the 1st round picks for Knight ended up pretty worthless, and the other was traded to Philly for us to get Knight (a restricted FA). Philly did use that to take Bridges, but we only were able to trade up to get him by trading another future unprotected Miami pick (from the Dragic trade) to Philly.

Yeah, we offered Amare the same contract, but year 4 and 5 was dependent on games played in years 1-3. Which was a smart contract considering Amare played limited game year 2 and 3. Like I said, our gms sucked and did a poor job in that sign and trade, really only getting a trade exception. I think if we received Lee back, we would have done so much better that year. We wouldn't have signed Childress and Warrick.
As for the Knight trade, again, stupid gm moves. It was our pick because of Nash, and we could have drafted Bridges with that pick we got from Nash.

[bwgood77]

Steve could have just left us, he did a sign and trade so we could get four draft picks, one of which turned into Bridges. Amare was under contract when he was bragging about how well he would do on other teams while he was still playing for us. Not only that, he was bragging about stuff he could do for other teams, that he wasn't doing for the team he was playing for, us.

I don't get how the Nash thing is worse, but ok. We did offer Amare a huge contract, we just had restrictions on that contract due to his injuries. He chose to not take it. We did him a favor by doing a sign and trade. Now what we did with the trade exception sucked, but that is moot now. In the Nash deal, it was a win win for both us and Nash.

I don't recall getting much in a S&T for Amare...didn't even remember it being one. But I know we couldn't get it insured, so wouldn't offer him what the Knicks did, since they were ok without insurance.

One of the 1st round picks for Knight ended up pretty worthless, and the other was traded to Philly for us to get Knight (a restricted FA). Philly did use that to take Bridges, but we only were able to trade up to get him by trading another future unprotected Miami pick (from the Dragic trade) to Philly.

Yeah, we offered Amare the same contract, but year 4 and 5 was dependent on games played in years 1-3. Which was a smart contract considering Amare played limited game year 2 and 3. Like I said, our gms sucked and did a poor job in that sign and trade, really only getting a trade exception. I think if we received Lee back, we would have done so much better that year. We wouldn't have signed Childress and Warrick.
As for the Knight trade, again, stupid gm moves. It was our pick because of Nash, and we could have drafted Bridges with that pick we got from Nash.

I still would have probably kept Amare, given how rare it is to be a contender, even if only he was guaranteed 2 years at a high level...the contract would have stunk, but we could have gone into tank mode (not something Sarver would plan to do, especially since he came to expect success) but without using the draft over those years to give you a future, we were going to be in a rought patch anyway.

I didn't like those signings, but it's rare you get real difference makers in FA.

I don't think we got Lee back...I remember him doing really well with D'Antoni in NY...that could have been before Amare got there..another PG did well too...can't remember..not a big name...someone like Felton...showing how stats are amplified with D'Antoni if they don't have ball stoppers like Kobe and Harden.

Lee may have been dealt, but I don't remember him playing for the Suns.

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Mark Cuban is a good owner.

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Mark Cuban is a good owner.

Arguably the best or at least top 3 in the league.

I’ve always been a big fan of his from watching Shark Tank where he’s always the most sensible one.

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Mark Cuban is a good owner.

Arguably the best or at least top 3 in the league.

I’ve always been a big fan of his from watching Shark Tank where he’s always the most sensible one.

It's like a normal person donating 26 bucks to unknowns in a charity having 40K in the bank account. In this case it's Cuban donating to one of his best friends probably.

Being he's 10x richer than Sarver, it's like Sarver paying 260K to someone. (fired coaches for example)

[RunDogGun]

I don't recall getting much in a S&T for Amare...didn't even remember it being one. But I know we couldn't get it insured, so wouldn't offer him what the Knicks did, since they were ok without insurance.

One of the 1st round picks for Knight ended up pretty worthless, and the other was traded to Philly for us to get Knight (a restricted FA). Philly did use that to take Bridges, but we only were able to trade up to get him by trading another future unprotected Miami pick (from the Dragic trade) to Philly.

Yeah, we offered Amare the same contract, but year 4 and 5 was dependent on games played in years 1-3. Which was a smart contract considering Amare played limited game year 2 and 3. Like I said, our gms sucked and did a poor job in that sign and trade, really only getting a trade exception. I think if we received Lee back, we would have done so much better that year. We wouldn't have signed Childress and Warrick.
As for the Knight trade, again, stupid gm moves. It was our pick because of Nash, and we could have drafted Bridges with that pick we got from Nash.

I still would have probably kept Amare, given how rare it is to be a contender, even if only he was guaranteed 2 years at a high level...the contract would have stunk, but we could have gone into tank mode (not something Sarver would plan to do, especially since he came to expect success) but without using the draft over those years to give you a future, we were going to be in a rought patch anyway.

I didn't like those signings, but it's rare you get real difference makers in FA.

I don't think we got Lee back...I remember him doing really well with D'Antoni in NY...that could have been before Amare got there..another PG did well too...can't remember..not a big name...someone like Felton...showing how stats are amplified with D'Antoni if they don't have ball stoppers like Kobe and Harden.

Lee may have been dealt, but I don't remember him playing for the Suns.

Lee was traded to GSW for Turiuf and two other players much less significant than Amare at that same summer. I would have rather taken Lee since we ran a similar style to D'Antoni. Lee was a much better passer than Amare and much smarter, which really is a low bar. Felton played great for Mike, but that team also had Melo and Billups, so there were many strong pieces which allowed Felton to do well. But one can't take away the job Felton did just because the coach had a more in game hands off style. Felton just balled.

[Saberestar]

Veteran forward Trevor Ariza has not reported to Thunder training camp. Ariza will be away from the team indefinitely.

"Ariza remains focused on the same family matters that kept him from attending the bubble with the Blazers," a Thunder spokesman told The Oklahoman on Sunday. "The Thunder was made aware he would not be available when they acquired him, and remain supportive of Ariza's indefinite absence given the circumstance."

Ariza opted out of the season restart in Orlando to commit to a one-month visitation window with his son, ESPN reported in June. Ariza has been involved in a child custody case.

He keeps getting checks without actually playing basketball. **** McDonough who signed him.

[bwgood77]

Veteran forward Trevor Ariza has not reported to Thunder training camp. Ariza will be away from the team indefinitely.

"Ariza remains focused on the same family matters that kept him from attending the bubble with the Blazers," a Thunder spokesman told The Oklahoman on Sunday. "The Thunder was made aware he would not be available when they acquired him, and remain supportive of Ariza's indefinite absence given the circumstance."

Ariza opted out of the season restart in Orlando to commit to a one-month visitation window with his son, ESPN reported in June. Ariza has been involved in a child custody case.

He keeps getting checks without actually playing basketball. **** McDonough who signed him.

I don't think the Thunder really care. I wonder what's going to happen to Horford. Charlotte should try to trade Rozier and Monk for them. Even out their team a bit. Or Rozier and Zeller.

Ball/Graham/Hayward/PJ Washington/Horford seems like it might be interesting.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Veteran forward Trevor Ariza has not reported to Thunder training camp. Ariza will be away from the team indefinitely.

"Ariza remains focused on the same family matters that kept him from attending the bubble with the Blazers," a Thunder spokesman told The Oklahoman on Sunday. "The Thunder was made aware he would not be available when they acquired him, and remain supportive of Ariza's indefinite absence given the circumstance."

Ariza opted out of the season restart in Orlando to commit to a one-month visitation window with his son, ESPN reported in June. Ariza has been involved in a child custody case.

He keeps getting checks without actually playing basketball. **** McDonough who signed him.

I don't think the Thunder really care. I wonder what's going to happen to Horford. Charlotte should try to trade Rozier and Monk for them. Even out their team a bit. Or Rozier and Zeller.

Ball/Graham/Hayward/PJ Washington/Horford seems like it might be interesting.

That's an interesting trade idea for charlotte and Rozier was actually good enough last year where OKC might be interested in keeping him to pair with SGA.

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Lol OK