2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1

cgf · Post #1101 » by **cgf** » Tue Dec 8, 2020 4:25 pm

I'd love to grab Lewis with one of our 2nds if he's there.

Josh Christopher wakes up & gets buckets, but good god does the kid just put his head down & go. Even with his two-way potential, I'm not sure his game works as anything more than a microwave 6th man. Isiah would've loved him.

2010 · Post #1102 » by **2010** » Tue Dec 8, 2020 5:38 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays · Post #1103 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Tue Dec 8, 2020 6:38 pm

aggo wrote:Ok I watched a lot of the top guys.

IMO,

there is a HUGE HUGE gap between the top 3 and the rest of the names I've seen listed. I feel really confident about Cade and Jalen Green being stars. Suggs a little less.

PLEASE GOD LET THE KNICKS SECURE A TOP 2 PICK.

1/ Cade - played with intensity and stayed locked in on every offensive/defensive possession. Clearly made his teammates better. His handle is a little sloppy and he has had trouble getting angles down the lane on dribble drive. But his passing and BBIQ is so painfully obvious he's got a very high ceiling. It's so hard to find a comp for him. A lot of people are going to say "ben Simmons" but... I think hes a better passer than Simmons was at the same time. I worry less about his shot form based on his size and that he's probably a point forward at 6'8. his BBIQ is just off the chart.

2/ Jalen Green - he's got effortless athleticism. When you watch Suggs play, you see his high, loud emphatic moments of explosion. When Green does the same things down the lane, you just see a more graceful athlete that doesnt seem like he needs to max exert his energy to finish or to hang and bang. a CLEAR sg but I do think his shooting form is definitely going to have to be tweaked. He jumps REALLY high on his jumpsuits. Like absurdly high and you can see him actually KICK his legs down while hes coming down. And hes got a low shooting pocket. It worries me, but his shooting %s are very fine against good competition.

3/Suggs - wow. explosive with powerful hang and bang down the lane with good finish rate. Clearly a really high level athlete with a decent amount of BBIQ based on his snap passes. a true PG who plays at level 100 all the time. His strength down the lane is very reminiscent of a guy like Russell Westbrook.

a few notes on others, big gap down for the rest of the guys.

I think Mobley is next best player strictly based on projectibility and athleticism. I'm not convinced hes a C in the NBA because he is more finesse than brute strength.

Zaire williams? lol wtf? knocking down some spot up threes makes you a top 10 player? Please... I dont see it. He did his best Anthony Edwards impression based on the games I saw. I dont like.

Jalen Johnson- eh, didn't see enough to form an strict opinion. first thought was "Harrison barnes". didn't see a guy that could contribute in multiple ways.

BJ Boston- meh. he reminded me of Chris Copeland

kuminga- incomplete

Good writeup, however between Green and Suggs, I'd say Suggs is the better prospect. Reason being that they are listed at 6'4" and 6'5" while Suggs is listed as 25lbs heavier than Green, he is a tank of a PG with exceptional size and strength for the position while Green is relatively small right now (180lbs). You take the better playmaker of the two, and Suggs has show a degree of passing skills that nobody else has shown outside of Cade.

A 6'4" 205lbs PG with that shooting, explosiveness and passing is pretty rare, and because of his size he should have positional versatility on defense being able to guard taller players due to being so strong for such a young guy.

newyorker4ever · Post #1104 » by **newyorker4ever** » Tue Dec 8, 2020 11:25 pm

Jstock12 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
N Y K wrote:you sure?

Watch on YouTube

This kid is really nice. The only red flag I see is his hair. That's usually the type of hairstyle that NBA scrubs are rocking.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #1105 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 2:30 am

It's pretty funny watching this game between Oklahoma State and Oral Roberts, cause Oral Roberts would be better with Cade than OKST is with him, they have a bunch of shooters. Cade's team reminds me of the Sixers with Horford, there's like 3 guys in the paint at any given time.

cgf · Post #1106 » by **cgf** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 2:38 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:It's pretty funny watching this game between Oklahoma State and Oral Roberts, cause Oral Roberts would be better with Cade than OKST is with him, they have a bunch of shooters. Cade's team reminds me of the Sixers with Horford, there's like 3 guys in the paint at any given time.

It does sometimes look like he actively picked the team that was the worst fit for his skillset :lol:

Maybe that means he'll actually want to be a Knick

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #1107 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 2:57 am

Cade is the real deal, he's hitting threes off the dribble, freethrows, hooks with both hands, a mid range step back and stepped on ORU's neck late....he's showed everything.

DowNY · Post #1108 » by **DowNY** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 3:29 am

I’d like to update my trade up offer for Cade at 1.
Take both Mav picks and our 2023 pick.

robillionaire · Post #1109 » by **robillionaire** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 3:37 am

3 assists and 5 turnovers against oral roberts

:sleep:

cgf · Post #1110 » by **cgf** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 3:53 am

robillionaire wrote:3 assists and 5 turnovers against oral roberts

Maybe an option for the Dallas pick, amirite?

Post #1111 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 4:07 am

DowNY wrote:I’d like to update my trade up offer for Cade at 1.
Take both Mav picks and our 2023 pick.

Trade everything for Cade but we are not that lucky

robillionaire · Post #1112 » by **robillionaire** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 4:44 am

pretty sub par game for jalen johnson, he's cooled down big time after a hot start

cgf · Post #1113 » by **cgf** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 4:46 am

robillionaire wrote:pretty sub par game for jalen johnson, he's cooled down big time after a hot start

Yeah, he's lamar odom but coach K isn't putting the ball in his hands the way FSU is doing with Barnes.

DowNY · Post #1114 » by **DowNY** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 5:02 am

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
DowNY wrote:I’d like to update my trade up offer for Cade at 1.
Take both Mav picks and our 2023 pick.

Trade everything for Cade but we are not that lucky

You’re right. Suggs isn’t a bad 1B option. He has that attitude for NYC more than Cade too tbh.
I just think Cade is perfect for RJ & Obi

DowNY · Post #1115 » by **DowNY** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 5:06 am

I think Jalen Green might slide out the top 5 just because all these college kids are being seen. Hopefully he’s our secret guy if we get shafted in the lottery again and don’t trade up. He’s with CAA too.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #1116 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 5:21 am

robillionaire wrote:pretty sub par game for jalen johnson, he's cooled down big time after a hot start

He can't shoot.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #1117 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 5:22 am

First half was ok, second half was yeeeessshh

Watch on YouTube

TheGreenArrow · Post #1118 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 5:28 am

Cade Cunningham Folks Cade Cunningham!!!!!!!!

WargamesX · Post #1119 » by **WargamesX** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 5:31 am

They just fouled him so much he lived at the charity strike

DaGawd · Post #1120 » by **DaGawd** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 10:33 am

Yeah.. Jalen Johnson has been ass of late