Windhorst: If Giannis doesn't sign a Supermax, AD will sign a 1+1 deal in order to recruit Giannis to Lakers next year

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Holiday has a player option next year. If Giannis doesn't sign, Holiday opts out and walks for nothing. Actually, Giannis could also walk after this year with no compensation to the Bucks. Talk about a bare cupboard. Pretty sure Bucks would trade Giannis before that happens.

we could get a dozen young guys and picks if we liquidate the roster. playing out the season without a gaurantee from jrue and giannis would be moronically reckless.

Their Contender Status will be thrown out of the window if Giannis get traded. When was the last time Bucks was a contender before Giannis? That's rare in a small market teams and they won't waste that chance for some picks, they even throw their future for Jrue to solidify their contention. That's why Thunder didn't blink and never even think of trading Durant in his last year.

the thunder didnt give away 4 unprotected picks preceding that year. were boxed in now. we'd have no choice but to trade him. if we didnt it would be the worst decision in nba history right up there with what stepien did with the cavs.

he has the top supporting cast in the league besides maybe lebron because of AD. weve won 60+ games two years in a row. we just added holiday. were offering 80+ million in cash more than any other team.

whats even the decision besides wanting his own team or going to ride bitch on another?

if he doesnt sign im outie on this guy. we have no choice

[One Last Shot]

we could get a dozen young guys and picks if we liquidate the roster. playing out the season without a gaurantee from jrue and giannis would be moronically reckless.

Their Contender Status will be thrown out of the window if Giannis get traded. When was the last time Bucks was a contender before Giannis? That's rare in a small market teams and they won't waste that chance for some picks, they even throw their future for Jrue to solidify their contention. That's why Thunder didn't blink and never even think of trading Durant in his last year.

the thunder didnt give away 4 unprotected picks preceding that year. were boxed in now. we'd have no choice but to trade him. if we didnt it would be the worst decision in nba history right up there with what stepien did with the cavs.

he has the top supporting cast in the league besides maybe lebron because of AD. weve won 60+ games two years in a row. we just added holiday. were offering 80+ million in cash more than any other team.

whats even the decision besides wanting his own team or going to ride bitch on another?

if he doesnt sign im outie on this guy. we have no choice

Maybe he'll realize that he won't win a Title with Middleton just like Durant realize he won't win with Westbrook. RS wins can only take you so far. I'm with those people that if it's not in the bubble and they got the HCA they worked all year to have a fair chance they beat the Lakers/Clippers in the Finals.

I think he"ll sign the supermax with the clause like Paul George have with Thunder that if he wish to be traded, Bucks must comply. win-win situation on both side. It's too much guaranteed money compare to what other teams can offer and salary cap is uncertain because of this pandemic. Even AD can't take his chance to sign 2+1 to get 35% max and settle for 30% max for 5 years.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Their Contender Status will be thrown out of the window if Giannis get traded. When was the last time Bucks was a contender before Giannis? That's rare in a small market teams and they won't waste that chance for some picks, they even throw their future for Jrue to solidify their contention. That's why Thunder didn't blink and never even think of trading Durant in his last year.

the thunder didnt give away 4 unprotected picks preceding that year. were boxed in now. we'd have no choice but to trade him. if we didnt it would be the worst decision in nba history right up there with what stepien did with the cavs.

he has the top supporting cast in the league besides maybe lebron because of AD. weve won 60+ games two years in a row. we just added holiday. were offering 80+ million in cash more than any other team.

whats even the decision besides wanting his own team or going to ride bitch on another?

if he doesnt sign im outie on this guy. we have no choice

Maybe he'll realize that he won't win a Title with Middleton just like Durant realize he won't win with Westbrook. RS wins can only take you so far. I'm with those people that if it's not in the bubble and they got the HCA they worked all year to have a fair chance they beat the Lakers/Clippers in the Finals.

I think he"ll sign the supermax with the clause like Paul George have with Thunder that if he wish to be traded, Bucks must comply. win-win situation on both side. It's too much guaranteed money compare to what other teams can offer and salary cap is uncertain because of this pandemic. Even AD can't take his chance to sign 2+1 to get 35% max and settle for 30% max for 5 years.

durant decided he wanted to be gs bitch. it may have been the ultimate bitch move. thats my whole point.

he cant get thru miami so he joins them? maybe joins luka and gets to be his pippen? joins currys like durant?

its right hed take less money for those roles. hes basically skipping out on the whole premise of "franchise player" with a move like that.

i hate this discussion but there really isnt a "decision" to be made here besides what and who he decides he himself is. the cast weve put around him would be enough if his game was where it needed to be

[One Last Shot]

the thunder didnt give away 4 unprotected picks preceding that year. were boxed in now. we'd have no choice but to trade him. if we didnt it would be the worst decision in nba history right up there with what stepien did with the cavs.

he has the top supporting cast in the league besides maybe lebron because of AD. weve won 60+ games two years in a row. we just added holiday. were offering 80+ million in cash more than any other team.

whats even the decision besides wanting his own team or going to ride bitch on another?

if he doesnt sign im outie on this guy. we have no choice

Maybe he'll realize that he won't win a Title with Middleton just like Durant realize he won't win with Westbrook. RS wins can only take you so far. I'm with those people that if it's not in the bubble and they got the HCA they worked all year to have a fair chance they beat the Lakers/Clippers in the Finals.

I think he"ll sign the supermax with the clause like Paul George have with Thunder that if he wish to be traded, Bucks must comply. win-win situation on both side. It's too much guaranteed money compare to what other teams can offer and salary cap is uncertain because of this pandemic. Even AD can't take his chance to sign 2+1 to get 35% max and settle for 30% max for 5 years.

durant decided he wanted to be gs bitch. it may have been the ultimate bitch move. thats my whole point.

he cant get thru miami so he joins them? maybe joins luka and gets to be his pippen? joins currys like durant?

its right hed take less money for those roles. hes basically skipping out on the whole premise of "franchise player" with a move like that.

i hate this discussion but there really isnt a "decision" to be made here besides what and who he decides he himself is. the cast weve put around him would be enough if his game was where it needed to be

I totally agree. It was the weakest move in the entire sports history but I can't blame him. Maybe he saw how others treat Barkley and other superstars who is one of the best but didn't get a ring. Plus the cap spike so he won't take a huge paycut during the process. But see how people clown him now being a cupcake joining the team who beat him that's why he move to Nets after winning multiple "worthless" rings in GS to redeem himself.

The closer it gets to deadline to sign that supermax, the more we get excited to see if he's really an Alpha who will stay to the team who drafted, trust and develop him to what he is now or another Beta like Durant who will take the easiest path to his first Championship.

[levon]

Remember when Windhorst broke news? Neither do I

[mademan]

we could get a dozen young guys and picks if we liquidate the roster. playing out the season without a gaurantee from jrue and giannis would be moronically reckless.

Their Contender Status will be thrown out of the window if Giannis get traded. When was the last time Bucks was a contender before Giannis? That's rare in a small market teams and they won't waste that chance for some picks, they even throw their future for Jrue to solidify their contention. That's why Thunder didn't blink and never even think of trading Durant in his last year.

the thunder didnt give away 4 unprotected picks preceding that year. were boxed in now. we'd have no choice but to trade him. if we didnt it would be the worst decision in nba history right up there with what stepien did with the cavs.

he has the top supporting cast in the league besides maybe lebron because of AD. weve won 60+ games two years in a row. we just added holiday. were offering 80+ million in cash more than any other team.

whats even the decision besides wanting his own team or going to ride bitch on another?

if he doesnt sign im outie on this guy. we have no choice

but for him, whats the point of signing the extension now? Is the Bucks offer not gonna be there next summer? Why not see how the team does? What if Middleton or Holiday (knock on wood) get a severe injury? Staying long term now doesnt look so attractive.

The optimal move for him is to keep his options open. No real downside to it

[One Last Shot]

Their Contender Status will be thrown out of the window if Giannis get traded. When was the last time Bucks was a contender before Giannis? That's rare in a small market teams and they won't waste that chance for some picks, they even throw their future for Jrue to solidify their contention. That's why Thunder didn't blink and never even think of trading Durant in his last year.

the thunder didnt give away 4 unprotected picks preceding that year. were boxed in now. we'd have no choice but to trade him. if we didnt it would be the worst decision in nba history right up there with what stepien did with the cavs.

he has the top supporting cast in the league besides maybe lebron because of AD. weve won 60+ games two years in a row. we just added holiday. were offering 80+ million in cash more than any other team.

whats even the decision besides wanting his own team or going to ride bitch on another?

if he doesnt sign im outie on this guy. we have no choice

but for him, whats the point of signing the extension now? Is the Bucks offer not gonna be there next summer? Why not see how the team does? What if Middleton or Holiday (knock on wood) get a severe injury? Staying long term now doesnt look so attractive.

The optimal move for him is to keep his options open. No real downside to it

So the Bucks can solely focus on just winning the Championship, not the noise of outside speculation and distraction that might affect team chemistry. Just look at Kevin Love, how his gameplay affected being on Trade rumor eversince he's in Cavs. If Giannis is really all-in to bring Bucks a Title, he'll sign it. If he plays it safe, there will be non-stop rumor if Bucks should trade him now or lose him for nothing in Free Agency.

[mademan]

the thunder didnt give away 4 unprotected picks preceding that year. were boxed in now. we'd have no choice but to trade him. if we didnt it would be the worst decision in nba history right up there with what stepien did with the cavs.

he has the top supporting cast in the league besides maybe lebron because of AD. weve won 60+ games two years in a row. we just added holiday. were offering 80+ million in cash more than any other team.

whats even the decision besides wanting his own team or going to ride bitch on another?

if he doesnt sign im outie on this guy. we have no choice

but for him, whats the point of signing the extension now? Is the Bucks offer not gonna be there next summer? Why not see how the team does? What if Middleton or Holiday (knock on wood) get a severe injury? Staying long term now doesnt look so attractive.

The optimal move for him is to keep his options open. No real downside to it

So the Bucks can solely focus on just winning the Championship, not the noise of outside speculation and distraction that might affect team chemistry. Just look at Kevin Love, how his gameplay affected being on Trade rumor eversince he's in Cavs. If Giannis is really all-in to bring Bucks a Title, he'll sign it. If he plays it safe, there will be non-stop rumor if Bucks should trade him now or lose him for nothing in Free Agency.

Taking the season where you want to live and work for the next 4-5 years of your life is not just playing it safe, it's really the only move. You only sign an extension because you 100% want to be there or you fear losing money if you dont sign it. If he feels even a little apprehension, it's only natural to wait it out, take the year to decide. And clearly, since he hasnt signed yet, he's not 100% there yet

[Mr B]

Holiday has a player option next year. If Giannis doesn't sign, Holiday opts out and walks for nothing. Actually, Giannis could also walk after this year with no compensation to the Bucks. Talk about a bare cupboard. Pretty sure Bucks would trade Giannis before that happens.

They would have until the trade deadline to make that decision. If they are leading the East at that point it will be hard to dismantle the team.


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[Mr B]

Holiday has a player option next year. If Giannis doesn't sign, Holiday opts out and walks for nothing. Actually, Giannis could also walk after this year with no compensation to the Bucks. Talk about a bare cupboard. Pretty sure Bucks would trade him before that happens.

I don't think they will unless he asked for it or Jrue or Khris got injured. They are all-in regardless if he re-signed or not until 21st. Pelicans is lurking to take their future

Hey bud, who's this ice cubes boy congratulating Giannis? What happen after he arrived in Bucks HQ on his birthday and how the meeting goes? Seems like you know more than everyone and we the normal fans of the GreekFreak wanted to know if he already signed that supermax and Bucks is just waiting for the right moment.

insiders are still confident. normal fans, which includes me... arent as much anymore.

i am fully prepared to pivot if he wants to play the season out without an extension. we need to liquidate this bitch if he wants a lame duck season "to decide". giannis, jrue, middleton, lopez..... whose the highest bidder?

They should trade him to Ben Simmons before Rockets can beat them to it

Talk about killing your spacing. Giannis on the Sixers would not be a good fit at all.


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[GHOSTofSIKMA]

but for him, whats the point of signing the extension now? Is the Bucks offer not gonna be there next summer? Why not see how the team does? What if Middleton or Holiday (knock on wood) get a severe injury? Staying long term now doesnt look so attractive.

The optimal move for him is to keep his options open. No real downside to it

So the Bucks can solely focus on just winning the Championship, not the noise of outside speculation and distraction that might affect team chemistry. Just look at Kevin Love, how his gameplay affected being on Trade rumor eversince he's in Cavs. If Giannis is really all-in to bring Bucks a Title, he'll sign it. If he plays it safe, there will be non-stop rumor if Bucks should trade him now or lose him for nothing in Free Agency.

Taking the season where you want to live and work for the next 4-5 years of your life is not just playing it safe, it's really the only move. You only sign an extension because you 100% want to be there or you fear losing money if you dont sign it. If he feels even a little apprehension, it's only natural to wait it out, take the year to decide. And clearly, since he hasnt signed yet, he's not 100% there yet

the main advantage would be signing so we dont trade his ass knowing if he walks for nothing the franchise would be destroyed and might literally be sold and forced to relocate??

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

but for him, whats the point of signing the extension now? Is the Bucks offer not gonna be there next summer? Why not see how the team does? What if Middleton or Holiday (knock on wood) get a severe injury? Staying long term now doesnt look so attractive.

The optimal move for him is to keep his options open. No real downside to it

So the Bucks can solely focus on just winning the Championship, not the noise of outside speculation and distraction that might affect team chemistry. Just look at Kevin Love, how his gameplay affected being on Trade rumor eversince he's in Cavs. If Giannis is really all-in to bring Bucks a Title, he'll sign it. If he plays it safe, there will be non-stop rumor if Bucks should trade him now or lose him for nothing in Free Agency.

Taking the season where you want to live and work for the next 4-5 years of your life is not just playing it safe, it's really the only move. You only sign an extension because you 100% want to be there or you fear losing money if you dont sign it. If he feels even a little apprehension, it's only natural to wait it out, take the year to decide. And clearly, since he hasnt signed yet, he's not 100% there yet

the main advantage would be signing so we dont trade his ass knowing if he walks for nothing the franchise would be destroyed and might literally be sold and forced to relocate??

we traded our entire armory of draft assets, unprotected..... to upgrade a team that won 60+ games each of the last two years. were offering 80+ million more than any other team can. this isnt a tough decision for a true alpha. if hes still unsure we need to just trade him and move on. the team is boxed in. if he doesnt sign then the team has to do what it needs to do to get out of this situation with some integrity left

[Mr B]

but for him, whats the point of signing the extension now? Is the Bucks offer not gonna be there next summer? Why not see how the team does? What if Middleton or Holiday (knock on wood) get a severe injury? Staying long term now doesnt look so attractive.

The optimal move for him is to keep his options open. No real downside to it

So the Bucks can solely focus on just winning the Championship, not the noise of outside speculation and distraction that might affect team chemistry. Just look at Kevin Love, how his gameplay affected being on Trade rumor eversince he's in Cavs. If Giannis is really all-in to bring Bucks a Title, he'll sign it. If he plays it safe, there will be non-stop rumor if Bucks should trade him now or lose him for nothing in Free Agency.

Taking the season where you want to live and work for the next 4-5 years of your life is not just playing it safe, it's really the only move. You only sign an extension because you 100% want to be there or you fear losing money if you dont sign it. If he feels even a little apprehension, it's only natural to wait it out, take the year to decide. And clearly, since he hasnt signed yet, he's not 100% there yet

Seems like he’s not 100% sure he wants to stay in Milwaukee though. If he was he would have already signed the super max extension.


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[NoZoLakers]

Talk about killing your spacing. Giannis on the Sixers would not be a good fit at all.


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going from Ben to Giannis isnt going to kill the spacing for Sixers, Giannis at least takes 3s unlike Ben and the team already address their spacing issue with Green n Curry

[Mr B]

Talk about killing your spacing. Giannis on the Sixers would not be a good fit at all.


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going from Ben to Giannis isnt going to kill the spacing for Sixers, Giannis at least takes 3s unlike Ben and the team already address their spacing issue with Green n Curry

Maybe but still don’t like the fit with Embiid.


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[Mr B]

Read on Twitter

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[Texas Chuck]

Remember when Windhorst broke news? Neither do I

He had Chris Paul to Phoenix way ahead of the pack.

[levon]

Remember when Windhorst broke news? Neither do I

He had Chris Paul to Phoenix way ahead of the pack.

Breaking rumors early is often inversely correlated with being correct in your predictions. He's like those Twitter randos that get one thing correct but vaguely insinuate a ton of stuff like fortune tellers. Except that he's more connected. He's just been very wrong on the Lakers and even Lebron recently.

[Texas Chuck]

Remember when Windhorst broke news? Neither do I

He had Chris Paul to Phoenix way ahead of the pack.

Breaking rumors early is often inversely correlated with being correct in your predictions. He's like those Twitter randos that get one thing correct but vaguely insinuate a ton of stuff like fortune tellers. Except that he's more connected. He's just been very wrong on the Lakers and even Lebron recently.

I mean most of them get most stuff wrong because way more stuff gets talked about than actually happens. I was just pointing out that he did get something pretty major right and he was ahead of the pack. We can criticize him and acknowledge when he gets something right.

I'm not trying to confuse him with Shams or Woj or even Haynes on breaking stories. But I do think its okay to give guys their due.

[lonzo_pelota]

in the small chance he opts out next summer
who still has cap space, arent miami and los angeles capped out for the giannis sweepstakes
is dallas, toronto & knicks the only ones with cap?