Training Camp opens today, 12/1/20

[joeposh]

Can we not with the COVID discussion and what your anecdotal beliefs are? We have some sloppy ass pre-season basketball to look forward to and discuss.

Personally, I think this entire season is going to favor established teams/rosters who are accustomed to playing with each other and already understand the systems they are playing in. No Summer League, a rushed draft/free agency/training camp calendar, and a wholesale turnover in our roster means this will likely be an ugly, ugly year for us -- especially early on.

Great for the tank, but will make it easy for people to label certain moves as busts and doom the Pistons once more. I think what we're looking for is glimpses. Glimpses of talent and maturity in our young players, glimpses of the team gelling and developing chemistry, glimpses of what the core pieces of this roster will be in 2-3 years.

I think we'll see more and more to be excited about as the season goes on and guys learn the playbook, but there are going to be a lot of frustrating broken plays, defensive lapses, and Shaqtin' a Fool moments along the way.

[Invictus88]

Man I really like all these training camp videos, but everyone looks like a moron wearing a mask, alone, in their office. Please stop with that NBA, thanks! One guy was alone in his car with a mask on, doing a video chat on his phone camera.

I have to laugh hard every time I see driving with a mask on by themselves. That, and when I see people jogging with masks on. I even had someone skirt at least 20 feet around me on a hiking trail while muttering about catching corona. Those types of people should not leave the house. I need less traffic on the road. That, for me, was the best part of the Lockdown. Going through downtown at 70mph instead of bumper to bumper traffic.

I had a Facebook exchange with a former co-worker/friend who has a 12 (or so) year old daughter who had a kidney replacement at a young age and would be considered as being in a high risk situation if she got COVID. He was carrying on about how it made him mad seeing people outside without masks on because it made him feel like "they don't care about my daughter's health." News flash, dude--they don't. They don't know your daughter, they're not coming around her without a mask on, and if she's high risk, keep her at home. He said that she hadn't left the house since March and so I asked what the hell he was so concerned about. I'm in the camp that both the high risk and sick people should be quarantined, not the healthy/those who show no symptoms.

My wife is an RN, has been working a COVID wing for months, and tests every other day at work. To no real surprise, she tested positive on Black Friday and was sent home. She went through about a 3-4 day stretch of flu-like symptoms, stayed in bed, did the usual flu treatment stuff, and while still quarantining is pretty much fully recovered. Luckily neither me nor the kids have showed any symptoms or tested positive. Granted, this is simply one case but I don't buy into the idea that COVID is extremely dangerous, i.e. much more so than the flu, just that it spreads more easily. When 80% of the deaths are people over 65 with underlying health conditions, well, you can pretty easily make your own determination on how dangerous it is to you personally and react accordingly.

The severity of the virus relies on several factors. One is age. One is preexisting conditions. One is also the location in which the virus takes root / attacks your system. If it embeds itself in the lungs it's going to do more damage than if it stays further up similar to a head cold. The point being here that the same virus can affect people in drastically different ways. Anecdotal evidence from a single mild case isn't enough data.

Numbers have definitely shown that it affects the elderly more; just like the flu. But numbers also show that the death toll of a full year of covid is 10-20x higher. (34k for flu last year in US, covid nearing 300k in US in 9 months so far with things spiraling upwards now) And that's when at least part of the population taking substantial measures to halt the spread.

I personally believe that I don't have enough knowledge or insight to guarantee or control the virus's spread if I were to unknowingly contract it. Apparently you are most contagious in the days leading up to when symptoms first emerge. So because I can't be certain when I am contagious the best I can do is wear a mask whenever I'm around others. Because my choice affects them. In ways I can't reliably predict; with the worst case scenario being death. That's the reason I wear the mask.

P.S. this is the only message I will write about this. But I felt compelled to write it due to possible negative impacts on public health of the current narrative in the thread. Apologies for the inconvenience here.

[edmunder_prc]

Man I really like all these training camp videos, but everyone looks like a moron wearing a mask, alone, in their office. Please stop with that NBA, thanks! One guy was alone in his car with a mask on, doing a video chat on his phone camera.

Sorry everyone for bringing it up. I just thought Casey, in a office, by himself, mumbling through his mask and touching it every 5 seconds because it was falling off his face was dumb.

My fault!



BACK ON TOPIC!


Blake is looking agile in these videos! TRADE BAIT.

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[Snakebites]

Feel free to create a (Covid Free) new training camp thread. This one’s done.

Lot of stuff in this thread I find personally objectionable and wrong, and am fighting the overwhelming temptation to jump into this discussion (a temptation I haven’t entirely beaten given this comment) but I know better than to try to change the concerned participants’ minds here.

Safety during the pandemic happens to be an issue in extremely passionate about, and I’ll just leave it there.