Is Gilbert Arenas overrated?

Post #61 » by **Chris Porter's Hair** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 2:09 pm

God Squad wrote:
Chris Porter's Hair wrote:If there was a nickname hall of fame, Gilbert would be a first ballot hall of famer. Not 1 but 3 great nicknames. At least that I knew of.

Agent 0 (zero)
Hibachi
?

What's the other lol?

He also named himself The Black President, well before Obama got elected heh

One Last Shot · Post #62 » by **One Last Shot** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 2:12 pm

Nope, he's one of the best Gunner in his era before injury. Just ask Javaris

JonFromVA · Post #63 » by **JonFromVA** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 3:52 pm

youngthegiant wrote:So I guess Westbrook didn't want to wear #0 because that was Gilbert Arenas' number. Don't really remember much about him but looked up his stats...and he had 3 really good years..then fell off a cliff. Are Wizards really going to retire his number for 3 years and 1 first rd exit? Doesn't make sense to me. Number 0 is Westbrook, don't get why he opted to change his number because of Arenas.

Gilbert is a legend to Wizards fans, so, just sounds like Russ trying to respect his new team and their fans.

Nothing wrong with that.

As a Cavs fan that moved to the DC area, yes, I do think he was over-rated. :lol:

jimmy keys · Post #64 » by **jimmy keys** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 3:56 pm

overrated? nah he was amazing. biggest waste of pure talent maybe ever though.

Cavsfansince84 · Post #65 » by **Cavsfansince84** » Wed Dec 9, 2020 5:21 pm

jimmy keys wrote:overrated? nah he was amazing. biggest waste of pure talent maybe ever though.

Not really a waste. In the sense that usually implies a guy just wasted his career. I would also say he was good but I think there's something of a hard ceiling on smaller guards whose main job in an offense is to be a gunner who puts up 50 when they are hot and go 6-22 when they are not while not bringing much else to a team.

Rainwater · Post #66 » by **Rainwater** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:11 am

jimmy keys wrote:overrated? nah he was amazing. biggest waste of pure talent maybe ever though.

Dude suffered a knee surgery...

Rainwater · Post #67 » by **Rainwater** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:13 am

God Squad wrote:
Jables wrote:Oh yeah I'm tired of people inserting Arenas into the GOAT argument.

This has never happened. Proof?

Pretty certain that was sarcasm.

blackcosmos · Post #68 » by **blackcosmos** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:58 am

Agent zero was a really fun player to watch. Too bad about the gun incident, I think that mess with his head a lot.

Pablo Escobar · Post #69 » by **Pablo Escobar** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:22 am

Watch on YouTube

Post #70 » by **Jakay** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:58 am

Random joke I made a bazillion years ago for jokes on the offtopic board:

jimmy keys · Post #71 » by **jimmy keys** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:32 am

Rainwater wrote:
jimmy keys wrote:overrated? nah he was amazing. biggest waste of pure talent maybe ever though.

Dude suffered a knee surgery...

i agree, but there's more to it than just that. he didn't rehab properly, was lazy and made multiple dumb decisions that completely derailed his career.

IAMZOOTED2 · Post #72 » by **IAMZOOTED2** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:01 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:
Bologna Smasher wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:Hes underrated and agent 0 made it cool to wear 0

Put some respect on his name

Arenas is nice and all, but Olden Polynice was who really made it cool to wear number zero.

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure players like Dame and West chose to wear 0 payin homage to Gilbert

Nah. Dame wear 0 to rep his hometown set, Oaktown.

Drygon · Post #73 » by **Drygon** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:36 am

jimmy keys wrote:overrated? nah he was amazing. biggest waste of pure talent maybe ever though.

Gilbert Arena is a 2nd rounder who far surpassed everyone's expectations on him & became All-NBA caliber player.

He was on his path becoming a Hall of Famer until Gerald Wallace injured his knee.

If anything, he massively overachieved.

jimmy keys · Post #74 » by **jimmy keys** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:49 am

Drygon wrote:
jimmy keys wrote:overrated? nah he was amazing. biggest waste of pure talent maybe ever though.

Gilbert Arena is a 2nd rounder who far surpassed everyone's expectations on him & became All-NBA caliber player.

He was on his path becoming a Hall of Famer until Gerald Wallace injured his knee.

If anything, he massively overachieved.

you probably don't remember why he fell to the 2nd round. it wasn't due to lack of talent or potential.

The Gilbert Arenas Provision is a thing for a reason.

Kukoc-Lauri · Post #75 » by **Kukoc-Lauri** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:56 pm

Yes, today with social media he wants to be recognized as better than Kobe. In reality he was more in Lavine,Monta Ellis, Lou Williams mode. His Wizards and Warriors never did anything important.

shangrila · Post #76 » by **shangrila** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:28 pm

Kukoc-Lauri wrote:Yes, today with social media he wants to be recognized as better than Kobe. In reality he was more in Lavine,Monta Ellis, Lou Williams mode. His Wizards and Warriors never did anything important.

He was as good a scorer as I'd ever seen in that brief stretch before he got injured. It's not absurd to put him in the conversation with guys like Kobe or Iverson during that period, at least in terms of scoring.

But yeah, he made plenty of stupid decisions that ultimately killed his career. The injuries capped his ceiling but the gun stuff just ended him outright. Though given the guy he got into it with, Crittendon, IIRC actually went and killed someone and is now in jail...well, that team had issues.

dennythedino · Post #77 » by **dennythedino** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:51 pm

Better than Kyrie, not as good as Dame.

deneem4 · Post #78 » by **deneem4** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:56 pm

He’s in the bracket with tmac for me...maybe a bit above as a wizards fan

But he was one of few players who can go toe to toe with ANYBODY on the court and still have a chance of winning, not jus stat padding but literally keeping his team in the game while challenging opposing teams to stop him

NPZ · Post #79 » by **NPZ** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:58 pm

macNcheese3 wrote:Agent 0. He was pretty damn good. After the whole gun locker room incident things went down hill. He was a second round pick as well. Or the last pick in the first round one of those two.

Not trying to be a grouch, but the number thing isn't much of anything, really. And Orlando Woolridge was the first, tho he considered it to be an O. He scored 60 against the Lakers one year, but even then, 50-60 gms were more common than in the 90s and back. I still mentally class him with guys like Josh Howard. Non-descript gunners that are a dime-a-dozen. I mean, really, does anyone consider Gilbert Arenas as a game-changing NBA player? Or even a clutch playoff performer? Or even much of any kind of playoff performer? Gil is perhaps memorable only for the fanbases he played for.

macNcheese3 · Post #80 » by **macNcheese3** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:28 am

NPZ wrote:
macNcheese3 wrote:Agent 0. He was pretty damn good. After the whole gun locker room incident things went down hill. He was a second round pick as well. Or the last pick in the first round one of those two.

Not trying to be a grouch, but the number thing isn't much of anything, really. And Orlando Woolridge was the first, tho he considered it to be an O. He scored 60 against the Lakers one year, but even then, 50-60 gms were more common than in the 90s and back. I still mentally class him with guys like Josh Howard. Non-descript gunners that are a dime-a-dozen. I mean, really, does anyone consider Gilbert Arenas as a game-changing NBA player? Or even a clutch playoff performer? Or even much of any kind of playoff performer? Gil is perhaps memorable only for the fanbases he played for.

Sure. I liked watching him play, he got hot real quick. He was a damn good player for the Wizards at that time. I’m not arguing anything more or less.