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drdrG · Post #581 » by **drdrG** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:29 pm

Prez wrote:We don’t have assets lol. Fertitta would have to be the pettiest and dumbest owner in league history

Fertitta has given up Westbrook for nothing, let Morey go, forced Morey to trade Paul and picks for Westbrook. Be ruthless and take advantage of emotional, petty owners!

WeekapaugGroove · Post #582 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:43 pm

Unless Houston gets a great offer now they are probably best served to wait until recent signings are eligible to be traded. That opens up a few more doors including Ingram in NO. Plus as long as James doesn't pull anymore **** his value could be a little higher because his latest little tantrum will fade from teams memory (I'm not sure it really matters even now, it's not like teams didn't know James likes to enjoy himself off the court).

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JayMKE · Post #583 » by **JayMKE** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:56 pm

The overpay for Jrue is looking pretty bad now, Jrue I’d more likable but Harden is a legit top 5 player and perennial MVP candidate. While it’s nice to be mentioned, it is frustrating that this is the 2nd MVP caliber player to have the Bucks on his shortlist while we’re completely strapped for assets. You have to muster up some sort of offer up if not for any reason to force these other teams to make their best offer, the idea that Philly could get him without giving up one of Simmons/Embiid is ridiculous and I think we could still make a competitive offer in that situation. Ferrtita has the Kohlian “win now and later” mantra and is desperate for playoff money so Midds/DDV/Brook could be appealing. What’s the best we can do pick wise? I dunno if we have any way of acquiring more. Giannis/Harden/Jrue would be one of the most talented big 3s of all time, I’d sell out everything for that.

It is interesting that Harden’s list has a)only has eastern conference teams and b)doesn’t include the Celtics. Ainge really is hated by top stars in league for some reason.

Post #584 » by **Prez** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:33 pm

drdrG wrote:
Prez wrote:We don’t have assets lol. Fertitta would have to be the pettiest and dumbest owner in league history

Fertitta has given up Westbrook for nothing, let Morey go, forced Morey to trade Paul and picks for Westbrook. Be ruthless and take advantage of emotional, petty owners!

Fertitta alone wasn’t responsible for all of that. He didn’t just let Morey go, Morey wanted to go. It’s been reported that Harden was forcing that Paul/Westbrook trade as well, it wasn’t just Fertitta. Westbrook straight up asked out of Houston and by all reports had abysmal trade value, they had nothing to work with.

msiris · Post #585 » by **msiris** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:35 pm

I do not like Harden but how do you say no?

Coach Carter · Post #586 » by **Coach Carter** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:39 pm

Such bs that he should've included Boston on his list since they too are worthy competitors. This is just an attempt to add pressure on the nets, Sixers since his move has stalled.

Now wrt to harden the player, top 5 talent he may be but his personality and style of play doesn't translate to a chip. I'm not giving the keys to the team, to this guy. Also I've already previously stated, I don't want the bucks to become the rockets of the east.

Yeh we gave up a lot for jrue but at least we add an excellent locker room guy and teammate. He's one of the best defenders in the league and an upgrade to Bledsoe.

In the end, it comes down to giannis improving. Replace him with bron, this team wins the east and possibly the title.

MiCo7 · Post #587 » by **MiCo7** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:42 pm

Kind of depends on what Houston is asking for and if we have enough assests.

msiris wrote:I do not like Harden but how do you say no?

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Post #588 » by **zimpy27** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:04 pm

You got to go hard!

Middleton and Jrue for Harden and Gordon

Harden, DDV, Gordon, Giannis, BroLo
Augustin, Forbes, Craig, Portis

SupremeHustle · Post #589 » by **SupremeHustle** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:12 pm

zimpy27 wrote:You got to go hard!

Middleton and Jrue for Harden and Gordon

Harden, DDV, Gordon, Giannis, BroLo
Augustin, Forbes, Craig, Portis

No way you think that makes the Bucks better. No way! NO WAY!

ABucksFan · Post #590 » by **ABucksFan** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:13 pm

zimpy27 wrote:You got to go hard!

Middleton and Jrue for Harden and Gordon

Harden, DDV, Gordon, Giannis, BroLo
Augustin, Forbes, Craig, Portis

If we're going to sucks for the next 10 years again, might as well go out with a bang!

Post #591 » by **zimpy27** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:14 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:You got to go hard!

Middleton and Jrue for Harden and Gordon

Harden, DDV, Gordon, Giannis, BroLo
Augustin, Forbes, Craig, Portis

No way you think that makes the Bucks better. No way! NO WAY!

Really? It's kind of tough to see how a half court offensive master combined with Giannis would be worse than the team now. Harden/Giannis plus role players is a championship team.

Anyway, this is the trade that gets it done.

Gianstoppable · Post #592 » by **Gianstoppable** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:29 pm

Imagine how good Harden would be if he didnt party all the time

drdrG · Post #593 » by **drdrG** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:43 pm

I think we see how this team looks for the first few months and then consider moving Middleton at the deadline for someone who becomes available like Beal. I really think this team has improved. We will be really good if DDV takes a step forward on offense. I've been confused by DJ Wilson since he was drafted but could imagine him having a bigger role this season

ABucksFan · Post #594 » by **ABucksFan** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:21 pm

drdrG wrote:I think we see how this team looks for the first few months and then consider moving Middleton at the deadline for someone who becomes available like Beal. I really think this team has improved. We will be really good if DDV takes a step forward on offense. I've been confused by DJ Wilson since he was drafted but could imagine him having a bigger role this season

We are not getting Beal for Middleton. If this was possible it should've been done a long time ago.

drdrG · Post #595 » by **drdrG** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:55 pm

ABucksFan wrote:
drdrG wrote:I think we see how this team looks for the first few months and then consider moving Middleton at the deadline for someone who becomes available like Beal. I really think this team has improved. We will be really good if DDV takes a step forward on offense. I've been confused by DJ Wilson since he was drafted but could imagine him having a bigger role this season

We are not getting Beal for Middleton. If this was possible it should've been done a long time ago.

I don't think that's correct. Nothing is static and an unhappy Beal could get moved for a 3x all-star plus Lopez. To be clear, I mean Middleton as the centerpiece of a deal.

DrWood · Post #596 » by **DrWood** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:30 am

drdrG wrote:I think we see how this team looks for the first few months and then consider moving Middleton at the deadline for someone who becomes available like Beal. I really think this team has improved. We will be really good if DDV takes a step forward on offense. I've been confused by DJ Wilson since he was drafted but could imagine him having a bigger role this season

since Middleton is a better basketball player than Beal, that would be stupid.

DavidDunn21 · Post #597 » by **DavidDunn21** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:36 am

DrWood wrote:
drdrG wrote:I think we see how this team looks for the first few months and then consider moving Middleton at the deadline for someone who becomes available like Beal. I really think this team has improved. We will be really good if DDV takes a step forward on offense. I've been confused by DJ Wilson since he was drafted but could imagine him having a bigger role this season

since Middleton is a better basketball player than Beal, that would be stupid.

You must unlearn what you have learned.

sogood · Post #598 » by **sogood** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:27 am

DrWood wrote:
drdrG wrote:I think we see how this team looks for the first few months and then consider moving Middleton at the deadline for someone who becomes available like Beal. I really think this team has improved. We will be really good if DDV takes a step forward on offense. I've been confused by DJ Wilson since he was drafted but could imagine him having a bigger role this season

since Middleton is a better basketball player than Beal, that would be stupid.

No.

Fotis St · Post #599 » by **Fotis St** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:24 am

So Giannis recruited Bogdan , Bucks messed up ...
Finally a SUPERSTAR like ex MVP Harden reportedly says he wants to join the Bucks
and this Org has no dice to roll ... incompetence is a really polite word to express how this org works.

ShootingtheJ · Post #600 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:45 pm

Fotis St wrote:So Giannis recruited Bogdan , Bucks messed up ...
Finally a SUPERSTAR like ex MVP Harden reportedly says he wants to join the Bucks
and this Org has no dice to roll ... incompetence is a really polite word to express how this org works.

Well, they have already built the best team in the league.