Best Cast Scenario...

[Drwho17]

Man, Vege.

It must be really really hard to maintain that ONE note in every single post for all of these years. Even I try to mix in some positivity from time to time, and not all of my negative posts have the exact same tone. You almost have to admire that.

Best case scenario? Who's the projected number one pick next year? Whoever it is- him.

Number 1 guy (Cunningham) is a big point guard, so maybe we want the #2 guy.

[Drwho17]

The best case scenario is we win the championship with 3 rookie all-stars.

I disagree. Three rookie all-stars means there's no way the team will keep them all; they'll all want to go get paid ASAP. Barely winning the championship with no all-stars is better. Then they all want to stay together to win more.

If a rookie makes the all-star game in the NBA, then he's probably on his path to being an all time great. Blake Griffin was the last one, and he sat out for a year before his rookie season. Looks like you are a for sure HOF'er if you make it as a rookie.

https://quintevents.com/blog/nba-all-star-2020-rookies-that-made-the-all-star-team

[Snakebites]

Man, Vege.

It must be really really hard to maintain that ONE note in every single post for all of these years. Even I try to mix in some positivity from time to time, and not all of my negative posts have the exact same tone. You almost have to admire that.

Best case scenario? Who's the projected number one pick next year? Whoever it is- him.

Number 1 guy (Cunningham) is a big point guard, so maybe we want the #2 guy.

Depends on his game, about which I know nothing. Also depends on the gap between one and 2. But yeah, maybe.

It also depends on Killian. Avoiding BPA for positional fits has been part of our draft problem.

[MotownMadness]

Man, Vege.

It must be really really hard to maintain that ONE note in every single post for all of these years. Even I try to mix in some positivity from time to time, and not all of my negative posts have the exact same tone. You almost have to admire that.

Best case scenario? Who's the projected number one pick next year? Whoever it is- him.

Number 1 guy (Cunningham) is a big point guard, so maybe we want the #2 guy.

Depends on his game, about which I know nothing. Also depends on the gap between one and 2. But yeah, maybe.

It also depends on Killian. Avoiding BPA for positional fits has been part of our draft problem.

Yup, make a big board and stick with it

[vege]

Best case scenario is Gores sell the team, we get a good owner, he fire Weaver and hire a competent GM and we restart from there. Anything other than that is a disaster and another decade of suffering for us fans.

I don't get your negativity, now that the dust has settled. Isn't this what we've been calling for the last decade. When you look at it, the Pistons have revamped their roster, gotten young players with upside, without selling out the future. To me it looks like Weaver has a three year plan to get to championship competitor. In basically a week he flipped the worst roster in the NBA, into one with a bunch of young players with upside, Hayes/Stewart/Bey/Doumbaya, not to mention taking chances on Jackson/Okafor breaking out. M

My only fear is that I think that this team could end up being too competive and screwing up their future draft positions, with Griffin/Rose/Grant they could win too much.

It's not difficult to understand. We are "rebuilding", but we still have Blake and DRose. We donated 2 talented young players in Wood and Kennard and we got absolutely nothing in return (we took Ariza for free and we gave Kennard to LAC in our 4 2nds for #19 trade) We just finished paying Josh Smith's 5 years dead cap space, and we got Almost the same amount in dead cap space, for no reason.

Bey doesn't have a lot of upside, he is what he is, which is not bad, he is solid, and we did well drafting him at #19. The Stewart pick was laughable. Sekou and Hayes have upside and I am happy for that, doesn't mean Sekou will be anything.

We should have only signed only guys like Josh Jackson and Okafor, I even posted a list of similar guys, who were signed very cheap. Instead we signed Grant (to play out of position, hello Josh Smith) and we signed a veteran bad center for a lot of money. Money we did not have to spend, since we **** up our cap space for no reason.

We waited for years to have cap flexibility, and this is what we did with it? Seriously? And you're happy?

[Snakebites]

Number 1 guy (Cunningham) is a big point guard, so maybe we want the #2 guy.

Depends on his game, about which I know nothing. Also depends on the gap between one and 2. But yeah, maybe.

It also depends on Killian. Avoiding BPA for positional fits has been part of our draft problem.

Yup, make a big board and stick with it

SVG by his own admission picked positional fits. He passed on better players out of concern they wouldn't fit with guys who aren't even on our roster anymore.

I don't know anything about Cunningham, but it's not unthinkable that two relatively large ball handlers can play together. Are either of them any good off the ball?

I also don't think we know enough about Killian as an NBA player to even say if he's good enough where fit with him should even be a factor. We all hope, sure, but I think even in a relatively optimistic projection it's unlikely he becomes a perennial all star type guy. Possible-sure, but if he was a high probability for that he'd have gone higher than 7 in a weak draft.

[BJK1]

Best case scenario for the Pistons is:
- Team stays healthy
- Rose and Griffin have good to great statistical seasons before being traded to contending teams
- Young players show promise with Hayes making the All Rookie 1st team (if not winning rookie of the year)
- Pistons end up with a bottom five record and the lottery is kind.

This scenario works for me.

[Dzon Dilindzer]

given that "training camp" thread is locked, ill post this here

hopefully musas shot comes around at detroit and like i said, hes known for his offense

Read on Twitter

[vege]

Man, Vege.

It must be really really hard to maintain that ONE note in every single post for all of these years. Even I try to mix in some positivity from time to time, and not all of my negative posts have the exact same tone. You almost have to admire that.

Best case scenario? Who's the projected number one pick next year? Whoever it is- him.

I don't like you as a poster, I respect you as a Moderator, you've been doing a fantastic job in our boards for over a decade, so thank you for that.

Do you like what Weaver did with our financial flexibility and our assets this offseason? We both know you don't. You've seen what he did wrong.

When SVG was hired, he did a hell of a job changing our roster. He won every single trade he did. He got us Mook for free, he got Tobias for free, etc etc etc. He **** the franchise later.

Weaver got robbed in every trade, what he did is laughable, and we're going to pay for it for years.

[Snakebites]

Man, Vege.

It must be really really hard to maintain that ONE note in every single post for all of these years. Even I try to mix in some positivity from time to time, and not all of my negative posts have the exact same tone. You almost have to admire that.

Best case scenario? Who's the projected number one pick next year? Whoever it is- him.

I don't like you as a poster, I respect you as a Moderator, you've been doing a fantastic job in our boards for over a decade, so thank you for that.

Do you like what Weaver did with our financial flexibility and our assets this offseason? We both know you don't. You've seen what he did wrong.

When SVG was hired, he did a hell of a job changing our roster. He won every single trade he did. He got us Mook for free, he got Tobias for free, etc etc etc. He **** the franchise later.

Weaver got robbed in every trade, what he did is laughable, and we're going to pay for it for years.

Yeah, I know you don’t have a high opinion of me as a poster. You’re not alone in that, and I can take it.

You know my views. There are some moves, mostly the ones on draft night, that I liked. The rest I largely agree with you.

I was merely commenting on how ANGRY you seem in every post. I don’t think in all these years I’ve ever seen a post of yours that didn’t sound angry. Seems like you need to relax man, that’s all I’m saying.

[MotownMadness]

Depends on his game, about which I know nothing. Also depends on the gap between one and 2. But yeah, maybe.

It also depends on Killian. Avoiding BPA for positional fits has been part of our draft problem.

Yup, make a big board and stick with it

SVG by his own admission picked positional fits. He passed on better players out of concern they wouldn't fit with guys who aren't even on our roster anymore.

I don't know anything about Cunningham, but it's not unthinkable that two relatively large ball handlers can play together. Are either of them any good off the ball?

I also don't think we know enough about Killian as an NBA player to even say if he's good enough where fit with him should even be a factor. We all hope, sure, but I think even in a relatively optimistic projection it's unlikely he becomes a perennial all star type guy. Possible-sure, but if he was a high probability for that he'd have gone higher than 7 in a weak draft.

They are both definitely best with the ball in their hands but we need to see Killian in action cause he could be able to play off ball.

[MotownMadness]

Man, Vege.

It must be really really hard to maintain that ONE note in every single post for all of these years. Even I try to mix in some positivity from time to time, and not all of my negative posts have the exact same tone. You almost have to admire that.

Best case scenario? Who's the projected number one pick next year? Whoever it is- him.

I don't like you as a poster, I respect you as a Moderator, you've been doing a fantastic job in our boards for over a decade, so thank you for that.

Do you like what Weaver did with our financial flexibility and our assets this offseason? We both know you don't. You've seen what he did wrong.

When SVG was hired, he did a hell of a job changing our roster. He won every single trade he did. He got us Mook for free, he got Tobias for free, etc etc etc. He **** the franchise later.

Weaver got robbed in every trade, what he did is laughable, and we're going to pay for it for years.

Yeah, I know you don’t have a high opinion of me as a poster. You’re not alone in that, and I can take it.

You know my views. There are some moves, mostly the ones on draft night, that I liked. The rest I largely agree with you.

I was merely commenting on how ANGRY you seem in every post. I don’t think in all these years I’ve ever seen a post of yours that didn’t sound angry. Seems like you need to relax man, that’s all I’m saying.

He also had a fit when we traded a expiring Bullock for Svi and a 2nd. Starting to think hes just mad about everything.

[vege]

Man, Vege.

It must be really really hard to maintain that ONE note in every single post for all of these years. Even I try to mix in some positivity from time to time, and not all of my negative posts have the exact same tone. You almost have to admire that.

Best case scenario? Who's the projected number one pick next year? Whoever it is- him.

I don't like you as a poster, I respect you as a Moderator, you've been doing a fantastic job in our boards for over a decade, so thank you for that.

Do you like what Weaver did with our financial flexibility and our assets this offseason? We both know you don't. You've seen what he did wrong.

When SVG was hired, he did a hell of a job changing our roster. He won every single trade he did. He got us Mook for free, he got Tobias for free, etc etc etc. He **** the franchise later.

Weaver got robbed in every trade, what he did is laughable, and we're going to pay for it for years.

Yeah, I know you don’t have a high opinion of me as a poster. You’re not alone in that, and I can take it.

You know my views. There are some moves, mostly the ones on draft night, that I liked. The rest I largely agree with you.

I was merely commenting on how ANGRY you seem in every post. I don’t think in all these years I’ve ever seen a post of yours that didn’t sound angry. Seems like you need to relax man, that’s all I’m saying.

I think I changed quite a lot since I started posting here, I've posted a lot of stupid stuff especially in the trades and transaction boards, and I got a few deserved warnings in my early days posting.

I understand things better now tho. In my opinion, Ed Stefanski was actually hired to find a GM, but the team was in such a terrible financial situation, that he decided to take the HIT himself, untill we had flexibility to actually do something. Not like he wanted the job and be paid to be the GM, we couldn't do anything with the roster, so no one wanted the job.

After we dumped Drummond's contract, we had enough flexibility to bring someone in, someone who would build his roster. I absolutely hate everything Weaver has done so far, and that's the problem. I respect Ed Stefanski a lot more now than I did 6 months ago tho, he was in a terrible position and he did the right thing, I was likely wrong about him.

[vege]

I don't like you as a poster, I respect you as a Moderator, you've been doing a fantastic job in our boards for over a decade, so thank you for that.

Do you like what Weaver did with our financial flexibility and our assets this offseason? We both know you don't. You've seen what he did wrong.

When SVG was hired, he did a hell of a job changing our roster. He won every single trade he did. He got us Mook for free, he got Tobias for free, etc etc etc. He **** the franchise later.

Weaver got robbed in every trade, what he did is laughable, and we're going to pay for it for years.

Yeah, I know you don’t have a high opinion of me as a poster. You’re not alone in that, and I can take it.

You know my views. There are some moves, mostly the ones on draft night, that I liked. The rest I largely agree with you.

I was merely commenting on how ANGRY you seem in every post. I don’t think in all these years I’ve ever seen a post of yours that didn’t sound angry. Seems like you need to relax man, that’s all I’m saying.

He also had a fit when we traded a expiring Bullock for Svi and a 2nd. Starting to think hes just mad about everything.

Bullock was the perfect fit to that team next to Blake, he was health and playing out of his mind.

Svi was awful and that 2nd had no value, we even donated the 2nd to someone.

Svi ended up been way better than expected. I don't think he has a future with us, even tho he is one of the few guys in the roster that can shoot. Also Bullock has been injured, something no one could predict. Could've been the other way around. Svi could've been inured and Bullock could still be shooting 40%+ from 3 on good defense without demand the ball.

I was wrong, sure, but most of the time I'm not wrong.

I hope to be wrong again about the Bruce Brown for Musa trade. I want badly for Musa to be sucessful. I never cheered against Svi, and the same will happen with Musa. It was a laughable trade tho.

[mike06181]

Best case::: hayes is all everyone expected but isnt the best rookie on the team. One of the other 1sts most likely bey is even better than hayes. This team needs both of them to be stars 2-3 yrs down the road.

[SamFlow]

Yeah, I know you don’t have a high opinion of me as a poster. You’re not alone in that, and I can take it.

You know my views. There are some moves, mostly the ones on draft night, that I liked. The rest I largely agree with you.

I was merely commenting on how ANGRY you seem in every post. I don’t think in all these years I’ve ever seen a post of yours that didn’t sound angry. Seems like you need to relax man, that’s all I’m saying.

He also had a fit when we traded a expiring Bullock for Svi and a 2nd. Starting to think hes just mad about everything.

Bullock was the perfect fit to that team next to Blake, he was health and playing out of his mind.

Svi was awful and that 2nd had no value, we even donated the 2nd to someone.

Svi ended up been way better than expected. I don't think he has a future with us, even tho he is one of the few guys in the roster that can shoot. Also Bullock has been injured, something no one could predict. Could've been the other way around. Svi could've been inured and Bullock could still be shooting 40%+ from 3 on good defense without demand the ball.

I was wrong, sure, but most of the time I'm not wrong.

I hope to be wrong again about the Bruce Brown for Musa trade. I want badly for Musa to be sucessful. I never cheered against Svi, and the same will happen with Musa. It was a laughable trade tho.

There has not been one video showing me anything to be excited about musa for.
Svi is a good bench player and borderline starter. Almost has to start for us because of the lack of shooting.

[zeebneeb]

How's this, something i think we can all agree on.

How about we wait, and see how things pan out before we condem everyone full force? Trust me, I get it. Being a Pistons fan has been absolutely brutal for the past 15 years, but take it from someone who has seen two championship runs, and the build out;

You never know, no matter how sure you are about it, wether or not a move, or series of moves is good or bad. It genuinely takes some time to fully understand the impact.

I really do get the negative feelings about after the draft. They stunned me, and I was also furious. In the grand scheme of things, the team had to be filled out, and some pieces had to be put in place to help Hayes succeed, and develop. I believe this was accomplished.

Trust me, if this season flames out and by that I mean just bad enough for yet another 9-7th pick, we'll know. Either the team plays above expectations and our rookies, especially Hayes plays brilliantly, I'm great. If the team bombs and they land a top three pick, I'm great. It's the middle of the road nightmare NONE OF US WANT.

Let's see how it goes. It should be pretty obvious after about 20 games, what's what. In the meantime, can't we all just sit around the enjoy the teams new rookies and the potential to be a franchise changer in the meanwhile?

The ride will be the best part!

[DET_Athletics]

We are in the hunt for the playoffs and rose and blake look good, trade them for future picks and veteran that can continue to help develop the young talent we have and bottom out. land a top 3 picks in the next 2 drafts and Cade Cunningham and Emoni Bates fall in our laps. then trade for a defense anchor, like Gobert (french connection, and hopefully he hasn't completely fallen apart) and run the east for the a while.

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