OT: COVID-19 thread #4

imagge wrote:https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30483429/coach-mike-krzyzewski-questions-playing-games-pandemic

Interesting since Coach K is getting his tail beat now he wants to question playing in a Pandemic

It's sort of interesting, because the question was asked, and he answered it.

I think its a bit dicey to give this type of answer after a loss if you haven't questioned it previously, but the information is rapidly changes as case counts are skyrocketing as well. Its reasonable for people to change their views, I have changed my views on who I see based on the last few weeks of information too.

Also, in the full press conference, he didn't use it as an excuse at all and said they need to play better and be better. He just answered a question about COVID and now people are connecting the two, which I suppose is common among all media types to ask a question that's really unrelated to an event at an event, then connect the answer to that question to the event.

Dresden · Post #167 » by **Dresden** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:16 pm

Another grim milestone reached yesterday- over 3,000 deaths in one day. At that rate, we'll be adding 100K new deaths every month.

imagge · Post #168 » by **imagge** » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:54 pm

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30489785/sources-nba-crafting-policy-manage-widespread-use-covid-19-vaccines

Looks like the NBA is prepping to get the Vaccine before the general public...if not why draft this now because it would seem these athlete would’ve some of the last which would put them around summer time in receiving a vaccine. Money provides privilege as I thought it would with the Vaccine

2018C3 · Post #169 » by **2018C3** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:25 pm

Temporary holds on evictions expires on December 31.

Watch on YouTube

That's a good thing. The hole concept of renters having more rights than actual owners is one of the most stupid "progressive" concepts I have ever heard of.

What these law makers do not understand is the property owners still need to pay the bank bills regardless of the tenants capabilities. I had a friend who lost his house do to this in the past. He had renters who he could not evict in time, and did not have enough time to make the payments. The laws worked against him.

The guy worked very hard to get ahead and rented out a nicer home than he lived in himself, and lost lots of money due to stupid laws that protected the renters.

Once the bank reclaims the home, there are two looser's in the deal, credit is ruined, and the elite keep there wealth.

I don't want to see people put out on the streets, and understand the situation sucks for everyone involved. But laws like this make it harder for the middle class to achieve success.

As a 19 year old kid, a friend and I was able to pay rent working lower pay entry level jobs. There is no excuse for complacency despite the hardships of these times. (Unless you are either physically or developmentally challenged).

Chi town · Post #170 » by **Chi town** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:31 pm

imagge wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30489785/sources-nba-crafting-policy-manage-widespread-use-covid-19-vaccines

Looks like the NBA is prepping to get the Vaccine before the general public...if not why draft this now because it would seem these athlete would’ve some of the last which would put them around summer time in receiving a vaccine. Money provides privilege as I thought it would with the Vaccine

All to encourage the general public to get the vaccine...

No way they should get it before health care workers or vulnerable people.

dice · Post #171 » by **dice** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:33 am

2018C3 wrote:Temporary holds on evictions expires on December 31.

Watch on YouTube

That's a good thing. The hole concept of renters having more rights than actual owners is one of the most stupid "progressive" concepts I have ever heard of.

What these law makers do not understand is the property owners still need to pay the bank bills regardless of the tenants capabilities. I had a friend who lost his house do to this in the past. He had renters who he could not evict in time, and did not have enough time to make the payments. The laws worked against him.

The guy worked very hard to get ahead and rented out a nicer home than he lived in himself, and lost lots of money due to stupid laws that protected the renters.

Once the bank reclaims the home, there are two looser's in the deal, credit is ruined, and the elite keep there wealth.

I don't want to see people put out on the streets, and understand the situation sucks for everyone involved. But laws like this make it harder for the middle class to achieve success.

As a 19 year old kid, a friend and I was able to pay rent working lower pay entry level jobs. There is no excuse for complacency despite the hardships of these times. (Unless you are either physically or developmentally challenged).

agree with most of this, but the financial challenges that your friend and yourself faced as young adults pale in comparison to that of a single parent. not to mention that rent is probably much higher now relative to inflation

Dresden · Post #172 » by **Dresden** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:59 am

They should do something to help landlords who have renters that can't pay. People should not be evicted during the pandemic, but the property owners should also not have to suffer- at least the small property owners, people who just own 1-3 properties.

Dresden · Post #173 » by **Dresden** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:03 am

Supposedly, Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows told the head of the FDA today that he would be fired unless he approved the Corona virus vaccine by end of day today. Trump is not happy that other countries have approved the vaccine and are rolling it out, and we have not.

Dresden · Post #174 » by **Dresden** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:52 am

Map of Covid hotspots, worldwide: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage.

USA and Sweden are the two largest hotspots globally right now. A little over 600K new cases worldwide reported yesterday- over a third of those from the USA.

jmajew · Post #175 » by **jmajew** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:31 pm

Dresden wrote:They should do something to help landlords who have renters that can't pay. People should not be evicted during the pandemic, but the property owners should also not have to suffer- at least the small property owners, people who just own 1-3 properties.

I don't know how that would be even doable, and that is the real problem with all of this. There is no simple method. People say the UK has done it right by paying all furloughed employees 80% of their pay to stay home. Yet businesses are still failing over there and their economic slump is the worst in the world. Really there is no good solution to these problems. You can help the people but if you don't help the businesses themselves when the pandemic is over there won't be any jobs for the people to go back to. It's really a difficult situation.

Dresden · Post #176 » by **Dresden** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:20 pm

jmajew wrote:
Dresden wrote:They should do something to help landlords who have renters that can't pay. People should not be evicted during the pandemic, but the property owners should also not have to suffer- at least the small property owners, people who just own 1-3 properties.

I don't know how that would be even doable, and that is the real problem with all of this. There is no simple method. People say the UK has done it right by paying all furloughed employees 80% of their pay to stay home. Yet businesses are still failing over there and their economic slump is the worst in the world. Really there is no good solution to these problems. You can help the people but if you don't help the businesses themselves when the pandemic is over there won't be any jobs for the people to go back to. It's really a difficult situation.

Why not just create a program like the PPP for landlords? A one time loan if they can prove they've had a drop in revenues. Gets forgiven if they meet certain criteria- like using the money to make up for losses due to renters not paying.

dice · Post #177 » by **dice** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:06 pm

Dresden wrote:They should do something to help landlords who have renters that can't pay. People should not be evicted during the pandemic, but the property owners should also not have to suffer- at least the small property owners, people who just own 1-3 properties.

or just give people stimulus checks so they can pay their rent...

dice · Post #178 » by **dice** » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:11 pm

Dresden wrote:Supposedly, Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows told the head of the FDA today that he would be fired unless he approved the Corona virus vaccine by end of day today. Trump is not happy that other countries have approved the vaccine and are rolling it out, and we have not.

it's astonishing to me that there are so many trump supporters who still believe that COVID-19 is either not real or not a big deal. trump himself has not only contracted it, but is hell bent on getting a vaccine out there. yet only half of his supporters say they're willing to take it (vs. 75% of democrats)

SalmonsSuperfan · Post #179 » by **SalmonsSuperfan** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:58 am

2018C3 wrote:Temporary holds on evictions expires on December 31.

Watch on YouTube

That's a good thing. The hole concept of renters having more rights than actual owners is one of the most stupid "progressive" concepts I have ever heard of.

What these law makers do not understand is the property owners still need to pay the bank bills regardless of the tenants capabilities. I had a friend who lost his house do to this in the past. He had renters who he could not evict in time, and did not have enough time to make the payments. The laws worked against him.

The guy worked very hard to get ahead and rented out a nicer home than he lived in himself, and lost lots of money due to stupid laws that protected the renters.

Once the bank reclaims the home, there are two looser's in the deal, credit is ruined, and the elite keep there wealth.

I don't want to see people put out on the streets, and understand the situation sucks for everyone involved. But laws like this make it harder for the middle class to achieve success.

As a 19 year old kid, a friend and I was able to pay rent working lower pay entry level jobs. There is no excuse for complacency despite the hardships of these times. (Unless you are either physically or developmentally challenged).

2 19-year-olds sharing an apartment is a bit different than trying to support an entire family, isn't it? by your logic, you must support a public housing program to address the 7.3million unit shortfall in housing in this country. good, i agree. seems crazy to think something as fundamental to human life as shelter should even be beholden to the market. Roughly half of all renters in america, the richest country in the world, are considered 'rent-burdened,' and you think it's 'progressive nonsense' that people don't want to be a recession or illness away from homelessness? small time landlords got bills to pay and ****, that's fine, i just don't understand how you could be so obtuse about why people upset and don't want the real estate industry to govern their entire lives

Chi town · Post #180 » by **Chi town** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:02 am

dice wrote:
Dresden wrote:Supposedly, Trump's chief of staff, Mark Meadows told the head of the FDA today that he would be fired unless he approved the Corona virus vaccine by end of day today. Trump is not happy that other countries have approved the vaccine and are rolling it out, and we have not.

it's astonishing to me that there are so many trump supporters who still believe that COVID-19 is either not real or not a big deal. trump himself has not only contracted it, but is hell bent on getting a vaccine out there. yet only half of his supporters say they're willing to take it (vs. 75% of democrats)

That’s because his supporters have already had it