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Post #941 » by **mpharris36** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:57 am

K-DOT wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

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he going to be a good one too

good thing his shot looked normal and how it looked in college. Especially from 3.

Video leaked to fall to the spurs????

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #942 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:57 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:On the other hand, Hayes has to play his first two pre-season games being guarded by Frank. So obviously he's going to look like dog - **** anyway.

Worst_to_First · Post #943 » by **Worst_to_First** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:58 am

Chill guys lol we can’t draft all of them.

Post #944 » by **mpharris36** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:00 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Poku's going to be the KP of this class .. more than 50% of the time. Teams that didn't take him are going to look insanely stupid .. but there is no punishment for not restricting vision to college bball.

Ditto Theo. Why the **** did he fall to #33?

he does things like Chet Holmgren that KP can't though. There was one play OKC actually put him as the P&R ball handler where he used the screen got into lane and threw a beautiful pass to the corner. KP can't do that.

Now Poku is going to need to add some weight but dude runs around the floor like a wing...much more mobile and quick then KP was. Whether he will be as good who knows.

Jay10 · Post #945 » by **Jay10** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:03 am

Worst_to_First wrote:Chill guys lol we can’t draft all of them.

Post #946 » by **DOT** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:07 am

mpharris36 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
good thing his shot looked normal and how it looked in college. Especially from 3.

Video leaked to fall to the spurs????

I mean, it was pretty clear he was just messing around with that

People using it as a reason to not draft him had already made up their minds about not wanting him and wanted something to justify it with.

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #947 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:09 am

mpharris36 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Poku's going to be the KP of this class .. more than 50% of the time. Teams that didn't take him are going to look insanely stupid .. but there is no punishment for not restricting vision to college bball.

Ditto Theo. Why the **** did he fall to #33?

he does things like Chet Holmgren that KP can't though. There was one play OKC actually put him as the P&R ball handler where he used the screen got into lane and threw a beautiful pass to the corner. KP can't do that.

Now Poku is going to need to add some weight but dude runs around the floor like a wing...much more mobile and quick then KP was. Whether he will be as good who knows.

Yes. Obviously there are differences. And he's smaller than KP and somewhat quicker. I think he's going to be actually really, really good if he doesn't break .. but them's the odds. :-?

However, if you watched the Mavs in the bubble you would have seen that KP was actually making beautiful passes, even beautiful touch passes to the corner. So that's a similarity, not a distinction, for me.

So, yes, Poku can probably guard 3s better than KP, and maybe he does some more artistic things when driving in the paint.

So, yes, they are different players. However there is, imo, a 50% chance that Poku should have been a top 4 pick this year.

Post #948 » by **K_ick_God** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:14 am

KP isn’t that good so Poku doesn’t have to jump over the moon exactly.

robillionaire · Post #949 » by **robillionaire** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:14 am

Worst_to_First wrote:Chill guys lol we can’t draft all of them.

Yeah I hear you, I'm good with our pick for where it was. Toppin looked nice in his debut as well.

Post #950 » by **mpharris36** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:16 am

K-DOT wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
good thing his shot looked normal and how it looked in college. Especially from 3.

Video leaked to fall to the spurs????

I mean, it was pretty clear he was just messing around with that

People using it as a reason to not draft him had already made up their minds about not wanting him and wanted something to justify it with.

yeah but it got way more publicity then it should have, and you probably are right that people that didn't like him were using this as added ammo. You would also think the quiet the rumors he would just put out another video to show his shot didn't change. He was clearly throwing up 40 footers but if the spurs buy your stock I would tend to feel comfortable they know what they are doing.

Post #951 » by **K_ick_God** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:18 am

Sorry KP is not a good passer.

Phish Tank · Post #952 » by **Phish Tank** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:21 am

Saw some Lamelo highlights and may watch a replay on League Pass tomorrow if I'm not too lazy lol.

His passing and handle are next level. Definitely better than Lonzo. But man - that shot is all messed up. Be better figure out how to take good shots fast. He took a few Curry-lite threes that were just stupid. Then had a Frank-like floater airball.

The behind the back passes, rebounds, and all that are cool. Remember that this is just Game 1 of preseason and that every one of his slick passes were made on the break. I don't think the Hornets will be defensive stalwarts this year. Therefore, teams will cut off most passing lanes and just dare Lamelo to shoot.

Also - his defense is nowhere close to good either. Strength will probably help with this over time, but Zo's got the edge over him in terms of defense and the shot.

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #953 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:25 am

KnicksGod wrote:KP isn’t that good so Poku doesn’t have to jump over the moon exactly.

Look: I'm making cliched comparisons of skinny white Euro guys. Can you btfo here?

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Post #954 » by **mpharris36** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:26 am

Phish Tank wrote:Saw some Lamelo highlights and may watch a replay on League Pass tomorrow if I'm not too lazy lol.

His passing and handle are next level. Definitely better than Lonzo. But man - that shot is all messed up. Be better figure out how to take good shots fast. He took a few Curry-lite threes that were just stupid. Then had a Frank-like floater airball.

The behind the back passes, rebounds, and all that are cool. Remember that this is just Game 1 of preseason and that every one of his slick passes were made on the break. I don't think the Hornets will be defensive stalwarts this year. Therefore, teams will cut off most passing lanes and just dare Lamelo to shoot.

Also - his defense is nowhere close to good either. Strength will probably help with this over time, but Zo's got the edge over him in terms of defense and the shot.

he is huge for a PG and like you said has elite handle and vision so he will probably be a walking triple double. The question will be will his efficiency and defense be good enough to be a lead playmaker on a good team? Time will tell.

Guys like Jason Kidd and Rajon Rondo couldn't shoot especially early in there careers the difference though is both those guys were elite defensive guards and had big time basketball IQ's (not taking horrible 3's, they knew there strengths). Does Ball want that or does he just want to put up highlights on ESPN?

BugginOut · Post #955 » by **BugginOut** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:27 am

Biggest thing I got from all these rookies going off is why aren't we getting Quickley any minutes?

Post #956 » by **mpharris36** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:29 am

BugginOut wrote:Biggest thing I got from all these rookies going off is why aren't we getting Quickley any minutes?

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B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #957 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:30 am

KnicksGod wrote:Sorry KP is not a good passer.

He's not Jokic, but he's not Nurkic. (Either level would be fine - he's somewhere in the middle.)

In the middle, somewhat elevated

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robillionaire · Post #958 » by **robillionaire** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:31 am

BugginOut wrote:Biggest thing I got from all these rookies going off is why aren't we getting Quickley any minutes?

I guess they really wanted to win the game with the starters. That was a preview of them ruining the tank at the end of the season

robillionaire · Post #959 » by **robillionaire** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:31 am

KP sucks

BugginOut · Post #960 » by **BugginOut** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:38 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Sorry KP is not a good passer.

He's not Jokic, but he's not Nurkic. (Either level would be fine - he's somewhere in the middle.)

In the middle, somewhat elevated

Watch on YouTube

What are you on? Nurkic is literally more than twice as good a passer as KP is.

KP is a finisher and a scorer, he is not a facilitator in any sense.