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The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall.

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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1621 » by MrSparkle » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:52 pm

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Around the NBA, the Knicks Obi Toppin had 11 points as the best of the other lottery standouts while Killian Hayes had five points and seven turnovers and Tyrese Haliburton had five points


Hayes looked rough; kind of an "oh oh, did we really draft this guy top-10." Of course 1 preseason game, he'll get better - he's young, crafty, and he can pass. But the foot-speed, turnovers and lack of impact were all red-flags for me. Weaver also seemed to build the worst possible team around him. The Pistons' FG% is going to resemble an MLB batting average. Curious how Deni and Okoro will look.
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Post#1623 » by fleet » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:27 pm

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Around the NBA, the Knicks Obi Toppin had 11 points as the best of the other lottery standouts while Killian Hayes had five points and seven turnovers and Tyrese Haliburton had five points


Hayes looked rough; kind of an "oh oh, did we really draft this guy top-10." Of course 1 preseason game, he'll get better - he's young, crafty, and he can pass. But the foot-speed, turnovers and lack of impact were all red-flags for me. Weaver also seemed to build the worst possible team around him. The Pistons' FG% is going to resemble an MLB batting average. Curious how Deni and Okoro will look.

Hayes always required you to talk yourself into him a little but imo. But we shall see.
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Post#1624 » by jStuNNa » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:31 pm

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MrSparkle wrote:Quick Patrick thoughts:

1. First elite athlete we’ve drafted since Jimmy, where you can tell he has a size, power and speed advantage over most the league. GarPax have been drafting guys fit for the Euroleague, not NBA playoffs. Even Hutchison, he’s at best a Danny Green type (and he’ll never dream of shooting as well). Looked like a rag doll compared to Daniel House and even Nwaba.

2. He’s not gonna cross-over wings and guards and get to the rim; at least, not yet. But the shot-off-dribble and post is butter.

3. Which leads to... we need to be patient. I don’t mind him coming off the bench. I can see him starting sooner or later, cause he is the best all-around talent on the team. But he needs to develop. Thank god he’s in Donovan’s hands.


Jimmys nowhere elite. Rose is. cross over and not defending perimeter is overblown. this guy has a mans body and all muscle with kawhi lite jumper. total stud unlike Butler who had to work other aspects bc his jumper sucked.


Jimmy Butler has elite strength at his size. Even coming into the league as a rookie he had the body strength to defend LeBron and Kobe. His strength and ability to finish through contact is upper echelon as well.
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Post#1625 » by Chi town » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:36 pm

After PWs first game and believing trades will come and more playing time... he could be in the running for ROY.
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Post#1626 » by VolumePoster » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:20 pm

Chi town wrote:After PWs first game and believing trades will come and more playing time... he could be in the running for ROY.


Depends on when the trades come. But I actually like switching him and OPJ. The starters need a lower usage glue guy with a defensive mindset. The Bench needs could use a high usage scorer with Coby starting.

Let OPJ efficiently bumslay second units in the role he would play for a contender. Then flip him.

I’d drink some cheap champagne to that. All night long, for that matter.
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Post#1627 » by kulaz3000 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:34 pm

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When Coby and Pat were talking about each other, they sounded like the exact same person!

It's cool that those two are tight and Coby offered for him to live with him his rookie season.
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Post#1628 » by DASMACKDOWN » Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:58 pm

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When Coby and Pat were talking about each other, they sounded like the exact same person!

It's cool that those two are tight and Coby offered for him to live with him his rookie season.


Also BD already echoed my point about it being a process. He said its may look really ugly at first tearing things down and building it up, but if they all do it together as a team, it will be worth it.
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Post#1629 » by HoopsterJones » Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:11 pm

I know it’s only one Pre-season game. But PWill has a good shooting form from the midrange and some good moves in the paint for the one handed shots. He played more poise then a typical rookie.
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Post#1630 » by FriedRise » Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:54 pm

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Post#1631 » by BullsFTW » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:47 am

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Chi town wrote:After PWs first game and believing trades will come and more playing time... he could be in the running for ROY.


Depends on when the trades come. But I actually like switching him and OPJ. The starters need a lower usage glue guy with a defensive mindset. The Bench needs could use a high usage scorer with Coby starting.

Let OPJ efficiently bumslay second units in the role he would play for a contender. Then flip him.

I’d drink some cheap champagne to that. All night long, for that matter.

Hopefully that’s the plan. I want Pat Will to eventually start.
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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1632 » by MrFortune3 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:02 am

I would imagine that the plan is to start him eventually. Don't think we drafted a guy we feel will be a two way player just to have him sit.
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Post#1633 » by RedBulls23 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:15 am

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Post#1634 » by theanimal23 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:39 am

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Maybe it's the #9, but mid range game reminding me of Luol Deng
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Post#1635 » by Repeat 3-peat » Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:40 am

I'm not pushing PW as a starter. Let him come off the bench and play against other benches to let him continue to gain confidence and improve.

He's the youngest player in the NBA, no need to throw him to the wolves.
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Post#1636 » by dougthonus » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:27 pm

RedBulls23 wrote:I'm surprised that Stacey didn't mention the lost art of the midrange jumper.


Just in those clips? He went off about the mid range game at least twice.
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Post#1637 » by dougthonus » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:37 pm

hungarianjordan wrote:I wrote up some of my thoughts on PatWill for those interested. Warning: It gets into the very nitty gritty of his game. Covers every noteworthy play he was involved in from the first preseason game: https://stephnoh.substack.com/p/what-i-learned-from-patrick-williams


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Post#1638 » by ZOMG » Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:37 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:I would imagine that the plan is to start him eventually. Don't think we drafted a guy we feel will be a two way player just to have him sit.


Who goes to the bench?
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MrFortune3 wrote:I would imagine that the plan is to start him eventually. Don't think we drafted a guy we feel will be a two way player just to have him sit.


Who goes to the bench?


Assuming your question is actually a statement, I agree with you. Plus, Willy is kind of frontcourt/wing combo version of Coby White (except destined to be a starter). A perfect role for him, this year, is a combo sub at the 3/4 getting significant minutes. This will also facilitate trying some lineups with Lauri at the 5.
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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1640 » by sach1 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:01 pm



His defensive instinct in college is already solid. Makes me really excited to see him do this as a Bull.

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