Around the NBA, 2020/21 Edition

[zaymon]

Teams in the East *clearly* better than Orlando:

(in no particular order)

1) Bucks
2) Heat
3) Nets
4) 76ers
5) Celtics
6) Raptors
7) Pacers
8) Hawks
9) Wizards
10) Hornets (?) -- this is where things get iffy. it depends on the development of guys like Fultz / Ball

What is not *iffy* is the question "is Orlando making the playoffs?" --- no, no they are not. So climb aboard that TANK! and roll on.

ESPN has the Wizards and Hawks over the Magic, and the Hornets behind.

10th seed here we come ????


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I wouldnt say 10 teams are clearly better than us. Maybe 7. Hawks looked like crap against our starters and I dont think we fear Wizards or Hornets. I would be more scared of detroid with healhy blake and rose. We could still end up at the bottom but saying we are clearly worse is silly.

[MagicFan101]

Teams in the East *clearly* better than Orlando:

(in no particular order)

1) Bucks
2) Heat
3) Nets
4) 76ers
5) Celtics
6) Raptors
7) Pacers
8) Hawks
9) Wizards
10) Hornets (?) -- this is where things get iffy. it depends on the development of guys like Fultz / Ball

What is not *iffy* is the question "is Orlando making the playoffs?" --- no, no they are not. So climb aboard that TANK! and roll on.

ESPN has the Wizards and Hawks over the Magic, and the Hornets behind.

10th seed here we come ????


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I wouldnt say 10 teams are clearly better than us. Maybe 7. Hawks looked like crap against our starters and I dont think we fear Wizards or Hornets. I would be more scared of detroid with healhy blake and rose. We could still end up at the bottom but saying we are clearly worse is silly.

You’re betting more on Detroit this year than Washington or Atlanta after the moves they made ... wow!

Detroit is one of the few teams expected to be outright tanking this year. They don’t believe in themselves ...

[zaymon]

ESPN has the Wizards and Hawks over the Magic, and the Hornets behind.

10th seed here we come ????


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I wouldnt say 10 teams are clearly better than us. Maybe 7. Hawks looked like crap against our starters and I dont think we fear Wizards or Hornets. I would be more scared of detroid with healhy blake and rose. We could still end up at the bottom but saying we are clearly worse is silly.

You’re betting more on Detroit this year than Washington or Atlanta after the moves they made ... wow!

Detroit is one of the few teams expected to be outright tanking this year. They don’t believe in themselves ...

I think it depends how much they want to compete and how much will they play their rookies. Rose/ Griffin is one of the best duo's in the east when healthy. People forget Blake is a real superstar.

[MagicFan101]

I wouldnt say 10 teams are clearly better than us. Maybe 7. Hawks looked like crap against our starters and I dont think we fear Wizards or Hornets. I would be more scared of detroid with healhy blake and rose. We could still end up at the bottom but saying we are clearly worse is silly.

You’re betting more on Detroit this year than Washington or Atlanta after the moves they made ... wow!

Detroit is one of the few teams expected to be outright tanking this year. They don’t believe in themselves ...

I think it depends how much they want to compete and how much will they play their rookies. Rose/ Griffin is one of the best duo's in the east when healthy. People forget Blake is a real superstar.

That isn’t true.

Derrick Rose isn’t a full time starter in the NBA anymore. He has started about 30% of his games the past 2 years and still can’t play a complete season.

In 2018 Blake played most of the year an lead then to the 8th seed and a .500 record. Now he’s coming off an injury and is two years older.


You’re taking that over Westbrook + Beal?

You’re taking that over Trae Young + the full depth of a team Atlanta has assembled? (which needs time to mesh)

[Xatticus]

I wouldnt say 10 teams are clearly better than us. Maybe 7. Hawks looked like crap against our starters and I dont think we fear Wizards or Hornets. I would be more scared of detroid with healhy blake and rose. We could still end up at the bottom but saying we are clearly worse is silly.

You’re betting more on Detroit this year than Washington or Atlanta after the moves they made ... wow!

Detroit is one of the few teams expected to be outright tanking this year. They don’t believe in themselves ...

I think it depends how much they want to compete and how much will they play their rookies. Rose/ Griffin is one of the best duo's in the east when healthy. People forget Blake is a real superstar.

Detroit isn’t tanking, but they will be bad. Hayes is going to start and he is going to have a rough go of it. He was a turnover machine in Europe and his first preseason game was a struggle. They will be terrible offensively if he has a big role.

Charlotte will be bad. Hayward will help, but they were six games better than their expected wins last year, so significant regression was to be expected. Ball is a rookie PG. I just don’t see them as a threat.

Washington has to be better than us, right? Westbrook carried OKC to 47 wins 4 years ago. I just don’t think any team in the East with him is going to have a losing record. Robin Lopez was a good get for them as well. Their centers were all bad defenders and they suffered so many frontcourt injuries last year that they had to go out and get Pasecniks. Lopez can anchor their defense.

Atlanta has so much more talent than we do. I don’t know that this is the year they pass us, but it is going to happen sooner rather than later. I expect they will finish ahead of us, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we edge them in the final standings this year either.

[zaymon]

You’re betting more on Detroit this year than Washington or Atlanta after the moves they made ... wow!

Detroit is one of the few teams expected to be outright tanking this year. They don’t believe in themselves ...

I think it depends how much they want to compete and how much will they play their rookies. Rose/ Griffin is one of the best duo's in the east when healthy. People forget Blake is a real superstar.

That isn’t true.

Derrick Rose isn’t a full time starter in the NBA anymore. He has started about 30% of his games the past 2 years and still can’t play a complete season.

In 2018 Blake played most of the year an lead then to the 8th seed and a .500 record. Now he’s coming off an injury and is two years older.


You’re taking that over Westbrook + Beal?

You’re taking that over Trae Young + the full depth of a team Atlanta has assembled? (which needs time to mesh)

Hmm ok i am agreeing about detroid with you, i checked their roster its weird but i am not convinced Wizards, Hawks and Hornets are clearly better than us

[MagicFan101]

I think it depends how much they want to compete and how much will they play their rookies. Rose/ Griffin is one of the best duo's in the east when healthy. People forget Blake is a real superstar.

That isn’t true.

Derrick Rose isn’t a full time starter in the NBA anymore. He has started about 30% of his games the past 2 years and still can’t play a complete season.

In 2018 Blake played most of the year an lead then to the 8th seed and a .500 record. Now he’s coming off an injury and is two years older.


You’re taking that over Westbrook + Beal?

You’re taking that over Trae Young + the full depth of a team Atlanta has assembled? (which needs time to mesh)

Hmm ok i am agreeing about detroid with you, i checked their roster its weird but i am not convinced Wizards, Hawks and Hornets are clearly better than us

Well, to be clear the Hornets are not on my list. I put them at the spot where things change (hence the ? next to their name).

But you are someone who lacks appreciation for stars in a league which builds rules to favor stars so I don’t know how to help you understand these facts. You want to continue drafting outside the lottery every year.

Westbrook, Beal and Trae are better than everyone on our roster. That counts for A LOT!! Atlanta surrounded Trae with a lot of good depth.

[Ducklett]

The NBA world is laughing at us again:

The Lakers paid $2.2 million to Orlando last night for the No. 46 pick they used on Talen Horton-Tucker, league sources tell ESPN. The Lakers’ $5.6 million cash considerations budget will be reset on July 1 for 2019-20.

[basketballRob]

The NBA world is laughing at us again:

The Lakers paid $2.2 million to Orlando last night for the No. 46 pick they used on Talen Horton-Tucker, league sources tell ESPN. The Lakers’ $5.6 million cash considerations budget will be reset on July 1 for 2019-20.

People were laughing a few years ago when the Warriors got Jordan Bell for cash. It's like our front office thinks our fanbase can't notice the stupid moves.

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[SOUL]

Draft flattened

[Anti Chalmers]

THT is an example why we can’t always give away our 2nd round...

[KillMonger]

THT is an example why we can’t always give away our 2nd round...

yeah, but i knew they would do it either to save a roster spot or for cash....they're so predictable

[thelead]

THT is an example why we can’t always give away our 2nd round...

A team that is lacking in talent and capped out needs to bring in as many rookies as possible and hope that players end being cheap rotation players at the very least. This front office is stupid. Cash for THT...

[pepe1991]

Very happy to see Durant out there flying, balling. Such an amazing player.

No comment on Magic usage of second overall picks. We are laughing stock.

[drsd]

I wouldnt say 10 teams are clearly better than us. Maybe 7. Hawks looked like crap against our starters and I dont think we fear Wizards or Hornets. I would be more scared of detroid with healhy blake and rose. We could still end up at the bottom but saying we are clearly worse is silly.

I agree that one of the Wiz and the Hawks might be better than Orlando, but equally, one of the Pacers - and an unknown-as-of-now injury plagued team could be worse.

In the end, I still project a 8-seed for Orlando. With a 7 to 9 range.

For me, a 10-seed is the lowest I can project, unless two starters miss a huge number of games.


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[drsd]

You’re betting more on Detroit this year than Washington or Atlanta after the moves they made ... wow!

Detroit is one of the few teams expected to be outright tanking this year. They don’t believe in themselves ...

No, and the Pistons is not on the above list.


The Pistons and Knicks will be horrible this year. Bust for Detroit, that does help Griffins and Rose stat-pad for their respective HoF bids.

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[drsd]

The NBA world is laughing at us again:

The Lakers paid $2.2 million to Orlando last night for the No. 46 pick they used on Talen Horton-Tucker, league sources tell ESPN. The Lakers’ $5.6 million cash considerations budget will be reset on July 1 for 2019-20.

Orland did not need a 3rd string SG last year.

Is Horton-Tucker better than Bacon? I cannot see why anyone is "laughing".


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[Ducklett]

The NBA world is laughing at us again:

The Lakers paid $2.2 million to Orlando last night for the No. 46 pick they used on Talen Horton-Tucker, league sources tell ESPN. The Lakers’ $5.6 million cash considerations budget will be reset on July 1 for 2019-20.

Orland did not need a 3rd string SG last year.

Is Horton-Tucker better than Bacon? I cannot see why anyone is "laughing".


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Maybe because he put up more points in one game than both our rookies combined in two?

[tiderulz]

The NBA world is laughing at us again:

The Lakers paid $2.2 million to Orlando last night for the No. 46 pick they used on Talen Horton-Tucker, league sources tell ESPN. The Lakers’ $5.6 million cash considerations budget will be reset on July 1 for 2019-20.

Tucker shot 30% from 3 last year. pre-season game. lets slow the roll just a little on this guy

[pepe1991]

The NBA world is laughing at us again:

The Lakers paid $2.2 million to Orlando last night for the No. 46 pick they used on Talen Horton-Tucker, league sources tell ESPN. The Lakers’ $5.6 million cash considerations budget will be reset on July 1 for 2019-20.

Orland did not need a 3rd string SG last year.

Is Horton-Tucker better than Bacon? I cannot see why anyone is "laughing".


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Maybe because he put up more points in one game than both our rookies combined in two?

eeh
preseason is irrelevant basketball really.

Also nba is all about roles and what's your purpose.
That Tucker guy will still struggle to find spot in Lakers roter and even if he does, he'll still be catch&shoot guy. Because that's how basketball nowdays works.
You are either:
rim protector/rim runner/ screener
ballhandler
shooter

That's kind a it.

There are very, very few nba players who's skillset is such an anomaly that it's worth changing whole scheme for. It's Jokic, Davis, Giannis , complete outliners who re-define roles set by basketball standards.

If you track Monk's career he is best example why few games, even regular season games, really don't mean all that much. For Clifford he kind a never played much, but one time clifford gave him lot of time, guy scored 25 points against Bucks, including 16 straight points in 4th quater.
Everybody was up in arms to proclaim new star and ready to burn Clifford alive for not playing him. Fast forward 2 years later, Monk is still marginal nba player.

I remember when Corey Brewer was dropping 50, Jennings dropping 50 in rookie year ,in week two of nba or Terrence Ross going bananas , scoring 51. It's nba . Especially with 3 point era, it's not so uncommon that some guard just catches pure fire for one night.