Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #101 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:37 pm

Lock Trubisky up!

:lol:

Dresden · Post #102 » by **Dresden** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:37 pm

29 first half points. Trubisky with a 141 rating. 23 points in the first half last game. Really showing some signs of hope on that end. Of course the comp is bad, but still.

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #103 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:37 pm

Man, Houston really this bad?

Susan · Post #104 » by **Susan** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:39 pm

IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:I don't think its a coincidence that our offense has looked better with Mitch coming back and a different play caller. Yes they've still made their mistakes but they are moving the ball.

Surprised the defense came to play today but the offense has looked way better since going with Mitch and getting Monty going.

Should be a huge game next week now and then we're looking at an easy W against Jacksonville...

Dresden · Post #105 » by **Dresden** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:43 pm

IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:Lock Trubisky up!

no kidding. He's been great the past two weeks.

Susan · Post #106 » by **Susan** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:51 pm

If they can go on a streak....

What the hell do you do then?

Chi town · Post #107 » by **Chi town** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:06 pm

Can we get 50...

Dresden · Post #108 » by **Dresden** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:07 pm

Susan wrote:If they can go on a streak....

What the hell do you do then?

If he keeps playing like this, why would you NOT sign him again, to something reasonable. He might get other offers, too.

nitetrain8603 · Post #109 » by **nitetrain8603** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:31 pm

I don't care if he makes the playoffs. I think it's career suicide to resign him. If the Bears miraculously make the playoffs, I think you still let him go and try to get a line together thru the draft. They're screwed next year anyway with the cap so I don't know if they could afford Trubisky if he does somehow play good.

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #110 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:43 pm

I'm liking Shelley a lot more than Skrine.

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #111 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:49 pm

Wasn't long ago ARob was dropping not so subtle hints that he wanted Foles as his QB.

Post #112 » by **dougthonus** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:05 pm

Susan wrote:If they can go on a streak....

What the hell do you do then?

Kind of depends how it happened and whether you felt it was the start of something legit or just a fluke. I mean they should beat the Jags, the Pack might rest everyone, and that means your only real game left this year might be against a fairly pedestrian Vikings team.

Beating those 3 teams probably wouldn't mean much to me in a vacuum. Now if the Pack are playing everyone and you beat them and beat the Vikes in a dominating way, then you could at least entertain the idea that there's something more here.

That said, the body of work on the season would tell you this team is average to below and right now, you've won one game after six consecutive losses, so a bit early to talk about streaking.

Post #113 » by **fleet** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:28 pm

I didn’t see the whole game, but looked like more of the same recently, shorter easier passes, couple hot reads, not asking Trubisky to do what he does worst. So crazy it just might work.

Post #114 » by **fleet** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:33 pm

This may be a little imaginative, and the Houston team has a horrible O line and defense and Hopkins gone, but this week the team decided to play, and the entire game all phases. I think Nagy stopped being so soft lately with all the heat on him. The Bears are lazy, only play when they want to. Sometimes only a quarter or 2. And they relax when they gain leads. And that was Nagy’s fault because he is a soft coach.

ChicagoSportsFan21 · Post #115 » by **ChicagoSportsFan21** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:15 pm

Who holds the tiebreaker between the Bears and Cardinals if Bears win out and Cardinals win against the Eagles and 49ers but lose against the Rams? It looks like it would come down to strength of victory which Bears would win if they beat the Packers in the last week?

Jeffster81 · Post #116 » by **Jeffster81** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:26 pm

I still want Nagy/Pace gone. But since the Bears pretty much screwed themselves out of a decent 1st rd pick with this win, might as well go for the playoffs. Keep Nagy away from the playcalling. I want to see if Lazor can continue to get good football out of Mitch.

transplant · Post #117 » by **transplant** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:29 pm

The Bears were certainly due to have a good, complete game and they had it today...very good in all phases.

Though vocal fans have determined that Pace, Nagy and Trubisky are all gone after this season, in truth, their loud opinions don't matter much. To the people who actually have to make these decisions, they are all still open. The question at the end of this season will be what is best for the team to be most successful in 2021.

If you dump Trubisky, who is your QB? Foles? A trade for a 3rd or 4th tier player? A draft pick taken in the middle of the first round? I'm not saying that the Bears won't go in one of these directions, but I do believe a lot will depend on what happens in the next 4 games. Frankly, if Trubisky continues to play like he has since his benching, there's a very good chance that the Bears will be open to re-signing him to a heavily-incentivized contract.

Susan · Post #118 » by **Susan** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:40 pm

ChicagoSportsFan21 wrote:Who holds the tiebreaker between the Bears and Cardinals if Bears win out and Cardinals win against the Eagles and 49ers but lose against the Rams? It looks like it would come down to strength of victory which Bears would win if they beat the Packers in the last week?

Two Clubs
Head-to-head, if applicable.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in conference games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss.

https://www.nfl.com/standings/tie-breaking-procedures

Bears are 5-5 in the conference, Arizona 5-4 Arizona has:
Eagles (who are up 17-0 on the Saints)
49ers
@Rams

Bears schedule:
@Minny
@Jax
Packers

Bears win out and Arizona loses, that's a tie.

Goes to common games:
Bears and Cards have faced: Giants, Lions, Rams, Panthers

Cards are 1-3 with another game against the Rams.
Bears are 3-2 with no games remaining.

Bears would hold the tiebreaker.

ChicagoSportsFan21 · Post #119 » by **ChicagoSportsFan21** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:49 pm

Susan wrote:
ChicagoSportsFan21 wrote:Who holds the tiebreaker between the Bears and Cardinals if Bears win out and Cardinals win against the Eagles and 49ers but lose against the Rams? It looks like it would come down to strength of victory which Bears would win if they beat the Packers in the last week?

Two Clubs
Head-to-head, if applicable.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
Best net points in conference games.
Best net points in all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
Coin toss.

https://www.nfl.com/standings/tie-breaking-procedures

Bears are 5-5 in the conference, Arizona. 5-4. Arizona has:
Eagles (who are up 17-0 on the Saints)
49ers
@Rams

Bears schedule:
@Minny
@Jax
Packers

Yeah, I knew that. I’m assuming it’s going to come down to the strength of victory in the example provided since they didn’t play head to head this year, same conference record, and they didn’t play a minimum of four common games (only Lions, Rams, and Panthers I see). I guess the strength of victory would be tough to predict at this point until the last week, but I wonder it would be enough with winning the Packers in the end. Right now, Cardinals are winning strength of victory by a couple percentage points.

Edit-Just realized the Giants was another common opponent. Thanks Susan!

Post #120 » by **fleet** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:52 pm

transplant wrote:The Bears were certainly due to have a good, complete game and they had it today...very good in all phases.

Though vocal fans have determined that Pace, Nagy and Trubisky are all gone after this season, in truth, their loud opinions don't matter much. To the people who actually have to make these decisions, they are all still open. The question at the end of this season will be what is best for the team to be most successful in 2021.

If you dump Trubisky, who is your QB? Foles? A trade for a 3rd or 4th tier player? A draft pick taken in the middle of the first round? I'm not saying that the Bears won't go in one of these directions, but I do believe a lot will depend on what happens in the next 4 games. Frankly, if Trubisky continues to play like he has since his benching, there's a very good chance that the Bears will be open to re-signing him to a heavily-incentivized contract.

IIf you wanted to include most of NFL media and lots of NFL people in with these vocal fans,you could as well. The overall point stands, but it’s not just fans.