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Post#601 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:02 pm

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Prokorov wrote:Classic example today of why it was 100% legit for kyrie to tell the media to kick rocks....

Steve Nash: " I haven't gotten into the off the court stuff with Kyrie. I dont know the reason or if it will continue. Its not my focus. My focus is on the court. Kyrie may not be in your good graces but he is in mine."

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thankfully, record was set straight....

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Bondy buried the majority of what Nash said, which was basically "its a non issue, kyrie is good with me" and just went with "nash doesnt know what kyrie is doing"

Glad Kyrie is giving us such access into him directly. the Instagram live tonight was awesome. clearly showed his bond with Caris and KD. if we had no IG live and kyrie spoke to the media we would have stories about how KD regrets teaming with KD and Levert is upset Kyrie took his PG role.


Media is already running with the part of the conversation where Kyrie and KD were talking about posting up. Asking if they're seriously discussing the offense. Going over Nash's head. Or that KD is starting to regret it already.

I'm convinced these people are weirdos or just filled with hate. Refuse to believe any normal person could misread that conversation.


How anyone could watch that conversation with KD and think that they were even remotely serious is beyond me. They were playing around.

This is getting weird af to watch ngl. We saw this last season with Stephen A blatantly lying about Irving and now all of this. Why are they obsessed with spinning everything out of context?
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Re: Official Welcome Home Kyrie Thread 

Post#602 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:06 pm

Prokorov wrote:Classic example today of why it was 100% legit for kyrie to tell the media to kick rocks....

Steve Nash: " I haven't gotten into the off the court stuff with Kyrie. I dont know the reason or if it will continue. Its not my focus. My focus is on the court. Kyrie may not be in your good graces but he is in mine."

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thankfully, record was set straight....

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Bondy buried the majority of what Nash said, which was basically "its a non issue, kyrie is good with me" and just went with "nash doesnt know what kyrie is doing"

Glad Kyrie is giving us such access into him directly. the Instagram live tonight was awesome. clearly showed his bond with Caris and KD. if we had no IG live and kyrie spoke to the media we would have stories about how KD regrets teaming with KD and Levert is upset Kyrie took his PG role.



I'm not surprised that Bondy is doing this.

Again, taking quotes out of context to try and create a false narrative is unethical. Look at the responses to that tweet, people took what Bondy said as fact. This is what I have been talking about. Pick out a sentence, remove the context from it and throw it out there and watch people run with it. It won't shock me if ESPN jumps onto this like the rabid dogs that they are.

But we've known for years that Bondy is a piece of ****
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Official Welcome Home Kyrie Thread 

Post#603 » by NyCeEvO » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:01 pm

While ESPN (First Take, and in particular SAS) rips Kyrie yet again for not talking to “the media”, he shockingly talks to the local media in a very cordial manner.

Clearly, he’s a ticking time bomb.

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Re: Official Welcome Home Kyrie Thread 

Post#604 » by NyCeEvO » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:42 pm

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Prokorov wrote:Classic example today of why it was 100% legit for kyrie to tell the media to kick rocks....

Steve Nash: " I haven't gotten into the off the court stuff with Kyrie. I dont know the reason or if it will continue. Its not my focus. My focus is on the court. Kyrie may not be in your good graces but he is in mine."

Bondy
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thankfully, record was set straight....

Read on Twitter


Bondy buried the majority of what Nash said, which was basically "its a non issue, kyrie is good with me" and just went with "nash doesnt know what kyrie is doing"

Glad Kyrie is giving us such access into him directly. the Instagram live tonight was awesome. clearly showed his bond with Caris and KD. if we had no IG live and kyrie spoke to the media we would have stories about how KD regrets teaming with KD and Levert is upset Kyrie took his PG role.


Media is already running with the part of the conversation where Kyrie and KD were talking about posting up. Asking if they're seriously discussing the offense. Going over Nash's head. Or that KD is starting to regret it already.

I'm convinced these people are weirdos or just filled with hate. Refuse to believe any normal person could misread that conversation.

The only way to fill a 24/7 news cycle is to over-analyze or intentionally misread and take statements out of context. Everything must be sensationalized.

Negativity and fear draw a lot of attention and drive clicks for ad revenue. These people are smart; they know what they’re doing.
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Re: Official Welcome Home Kyrie Thread 

Post#605 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:45 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:While ESPN (First Take, and in particular SAS) rips Kyrie yet again for not talking to “the media”, he shockingly talks to the local media in a very cordial manner.

Clearly, he’s a ticking time bomb.



This is a great interview, and he was able to be candid. I think Kyrie is definitely not messing around with certain folks from ESPN, but here he did speak with Malika Andrews, who to be fair isn't one of the clowns that spin comments out of context, she's an actual journalist. And she asked a great question about Steve and MDA.

If you get to the core of Kyrie's beef with media outlets, it mirrors pretty much what Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson says on their show about being able to control and get out their message without the spin and BS.

This makes me even more excited for the season. He sounds like he's in a good space, and a great environment with the organization that Sean Marks has built. The coaching staff is top notch and I'm not too worried about Steve because he has MDA and Vaughn with him to offer expertise.

Also, people try to make it seem like he's the nasty, disrespectful dude but they won't sit through this interview because it flies in the face of how ESPN's talking heads have tried to portray him.
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Post#606 » by GTR11 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:16 pm

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NyCeEvO wrote:While ESPN (First Take, and in particular SAS) rips Kyrie yet again for not talking to “the media”, he shockingly talks to the local media in a very cordial manner.

Clearly, he’s a ticking time bomb.



I haven't been player fan since K. Mart bounced. I'm now again. We so lucky to have Kyrie shed a tier a little :lol:
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Re: Official Welcome Home Kyrie Thread 

Post#607 » by Paradise » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:33 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:While ESPN (First Take, and in particular SAS) rips Kyrie yet again for not talking to “the media”, he shockingly talks to the local media in a very cordial manner.

Clearly, he’s a ticking time bomb.


That SAS video goes right up there with Nash, and Kyrie/Bubble protest take. As MDB put it, cooning for clicks.
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Re: Official Welcome Home Kyrie Thread 

Post#608 » by Paradise » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:39 pm

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NyCeEvO wrote:While ESPN (First Take, and in particular SAS) rips Kyrie yet again for not talking to “the media”, he shockingly talks to the local media in a very cordial manner.

Clearly, he’s a ticking time bomb.



This is a great interview, and he was able to be candid. I think Kyrie is definitely not messing around with certain folks from ESPN, but here he did speak with Malika Andrews, who to be fair isn't one of the clowns that spin comments out of context, she's an actual journalist. And she asked a great question about Steve and MDA.

If you get to the core of Kyrie's beef with media outlets, it mirrors pretty much what Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson says on their show about being able to control and get out their message without the spin and BS.

This makes me even more excited for the season. He sounds like he's in a good space, and a great environment with the organization that Sean Marks has built. The coaching staff is top notch and I'm not too worried about Steve because he has MDA and Vaughn with him to offer expertise.

Also, people try to make it seem like he's the nasty, disrespectful dude but they won't sit through this interview because it flies in the face of how ESPN's talking heads have tried to portray him.

Exactly.

They’ve been shredding him even AFTER he’s went on record to apologize for the Boston stint.

Went on record to compare him to Spencer’s numbers every single time he got injured. Also, the media said he AVOIDED Boston last season when he was legitimately injured and inactive by the Nets. So, why would he want to talk to any of those clowns?

Most people in a regular life who feels unnecessary ridicule in the work place usually show up, work hard and say nothing to those who’ve disrespected them or their craft.
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Re: Official Welcome Home Kyrie Thread 

Post#609 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 am



RENT FREE.

How anyone could have seen what they looked like last night and can say this is appalling. Stephen A has a personal vendetta against Kyrie, this is starting to look like the Jason Whitlock and Allen Iverson situation all over again.

What is wrong with this man? Seriously, did Kyrie do something to him personally????
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Post#610 » by ProspectPark » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:51 am

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RENT FREE.

How anyone could have seen what they looked like last night and can say this is appalling. Stephen A has a personal vendetta against Kyrie, this is starting to look like the Jason Whitlock and Allen Iverson situation all over again.

What is wrong with this man? Seriously, did Kyrie do something to him personally????


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Post#611 » by gigantes » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:19 am

Whether you nitpick Kyrie, don't care at all, or blame this shizzle on the news cycle looking for profit, I do keep seeing one thing that's hardly mentioned for some reason, and it's this-- Kyrie frequently seems to be trying to make a LARGER point about things. About himself, the game, about people in general, whatever.

He's bold, he's interesting, he's sometimes raw, and you never know quite what you'll get. (if that's not a reporter's dream, dunno what is)

Now personally I admire that a lot as someone who's plenty cynical about civilisation. Things truly -don't- add up IMO, and you if you spend the time following certain of Kyrie's comments to their origins and/or logistical conclusions, then he's indeed right about a lot of stuff.

Problem is-- when you're someone who prefers to only allude to that stuff in passing, as seems to be his particular style, then it seems generally best to refer to it in a light-hearted, maybe even humorous, style. In other words, try not to accidentally insult people, try not to sound hopelessly anti-science, try not alienate people out of hand. Just like you'd do talking to a stranger at a bus stop, or whatever. It's not a very high bar.

The biggest thing that Kyrie doesn't seem to understand about this stuff is that even though he may be "woke" enough to recognise it, frankly he's pretty damn underwhelming at talking about it or even just referring to it, obliquely. Sure that's not his job, and any number of people do better (AOC, anyone?), but the point is, he just doesn't seem to be gifted in this matter, and doesn't seem to be getting any more aware along the way.

As I see it, this is a real problem, for as long as Kyrie keeps matching his voice to media. Something that's not necessarily going to go away. One that, if I was Sean Marks, I would really want to address at some point.

I think this is also why athletes typically learn to give simple, stock, professional answers to public / media questions. It's not just that they're 'surrendering to pressure,' but it's also a way of doing your job without giving free ammunition to others... not just the media, but to the general fanbase, to writers, to opposing players, etc.

In other words, you have all that -other time- to share your unfiltered thoughts with your friends, family, confidantes, agent, counsellors. Like, do it, man! That's what they're there for...! :D
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Re: Official Welcome Home Kyrie Thread 

Post#612 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:24 am

gigantes wrote:Problem is-- when you're someone who prefers to only allude to that stuff in passing, as seems to be his particular style, then it seems generally best to refer to it in a light-hearted, maybe even humorous, style. In other words, try not to accidentally insult people, try not to sound hopelessly anti-science, try not alienate people out of hand. Just like you'd do talking to a stranger at a bus stop, or whatever. It's not a very high bar.

The biggest thing that Kyrie doesn't seem to understand about this stuff is that even though he may be "woke" enough to recognise it, frankly he's pretty damn underwhelming at talking about it or even just referring to it, obliquely. Sure that's not his job, and any number of people do better (AOC, anyone?), but the point is, he just doesn't seem to be gifted in this matter, and doesn't seem to be getting any more aware along the way.

As I see it, this is a real problem, for as long as Kyrie keeps matching his voice to media. Something that's not necessarily going to go away. One that, if I was Sean Marks, I would really want to address at some point.




So, over the past 48 hours Kyrie Irving went on Instagram and had a conversation with Kevin Durant, where in context (key words), they both light heartedly joked about Kyrie's role in the Nets offense.

The end result saw an accredited member of the media falsely accusing Irving and Durant of plotting out the Nets' offense on a social media platform and questioning whether they will bother to fill the coach in on their decision making:

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None of what is alluded to in this disingenuous tweet is remotely true.

Said media member, after throwing out that grenade into the public consciousness, didn't bother to clean up what he accused Irving and Durant of, and in fact went about his business, with his agenda completed.

So, should Sean Marks address this as well? I'm kind of curious how this all works for you.
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Post#613 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:33 pm

Media hatred for Kyrie is just pathetic at this point. Some of which I will admit is self induced.

But were at the point where he could say anything, and the media will construe it as some attack on his teammates or Nash. Just time to ignore the noise and ball out. Thats all hes ever done.
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Post#614 » by Paradise » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:42 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Media hatred for Kyrie is just pathetic at this point. Some of which I will admit is self induced.

But were at the point where he could say anything, and the media will construe it as some attack on his teammates or Nash. Just time to ignore the noise and ball out. Thats all hes ever done.

The same media that wanted him to speak, got mad at his boycott idea... is now saying he should shut up and dribble, basically.

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Post#615 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:04 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Media hatred for Kyrie is just pathetic at this point. Some of which I will admit is self induced.

But were at the point where he could say anything, and the media will construe it as some attack on his teammates or Nash. Just time to ignore the noise and ball out. Thats all hes ever done.

The same media that wanted him to speak, got mad at his boycott idea... is now saying he should shut up and dribble, basically.

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See?? If he stays silent, they will make an issue out of it. If he speaks, they have a problem with that too. There is no winning with these people.

Do you think Unk sat through that entire presser before making an objective assessment? I doubt it. They just once again, take clips without context to create controversy. He has a target on his back, and don't think that him being outspoken this summer didn't add fuel to the fire especially with ESPN/ABC/Disney who stood to lose a ton of revenue if the players had refused to play.

Kyrie wanted to shut up and dribble and all of them lost their damn minds. Now he gave them what they wanted and they want him to shut up. At this point they just want to keep the microscope on him because he drives ratings and clicks. They need him more than he needs them.

And yes, as much as I like Shannon Sharpe, this is indeed: #CooningForClicks
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Post#616 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:07 pm

Exactly. He doesn't talk the get butthurt.

He decides to talk they get even more butthurt.

Theres so many fascinating story lines in the NBA this year and every show has to do a stupid segment over Kyrie having a completely normal interview. Its just idiotic.
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Post#617 » by DarkXaero » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:13 am



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And we have some Nets fans saying that Kyrie isn't close to the most unfairly criticized NBA player LOL
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Post#618 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:22 am

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And we have some Nets fans saying that Kyrie isn't close to the most unfairly criticized NBA player LOL


He should get punched in the mouth for saying that. That is seriously pushing it, and it frankly exposes how disgusting Stephen A Smith is. I hope he and Kyrie never cross paths again.

Kyrie needs to keep it the interviews to the local beat writers and Malika Andrews. There is no reason to speak to anyone else from ESPN. Absolutely none. Stephen A should be forced to apologize for that.
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Post#619 » by therealbig3 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:14 am

Yeah, what exactly is the point of bringing up Kobe because you think Kyrie isn't being direct enough?

That was such a random connection and really just sounds like he brought up Kobe just to make a dramatic point, not because it was any sort of valid comparison whatsoever.

But that's SAS for you.
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Post#620 » by MGrand15 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:02 pm

DarkXaero wrote:

Read on Twitter
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And we have some Nets fans saying that Kyrie isn't close to the most unfairly criticized NBA player LOL


Disgusting. Bringing up his mentor who passed away because Kyrie isn't clear when he speaks? This might be a new low. SAS will definitely hear about this.

These clowns - SAS, Kendrick Perkins, Kellerman, etc - keep crossing the lines just BEGGING for Kyrie to give them some attention. You know it kills Perk that Kyrie has never acknowledged him publicly.

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