2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[anotherhomer]

Sixers are still paying max dollars to three players, even after getting rid of Horford's awful contract. Maybe Morey will take Lowry plus TD (who played really well against Morey's Rockets last season) plus a few FRP to get out from under Simmons' contract. I hope it wouldn't take OG. Then we flip Simmons + Norm for Harden.

Why would Philly want Lowry over Harden. Simple answer, they wouldn't.

The point is that Morey thinks trading for Lowry was a better move than trading for Harden who turned into an MVP and scoring champ. That's bonkers unless he thinks really highly of Lowry.

It's not that Philly would want Lowry over Harden. It's that instead of giving up Simmons and a 3 FRPs for Harden - apparently Houston's ask - they would get Lowry, Powell/Davis/Whomever, and picks for Simmons.

As good as Simmons is as a player he is not a good fit with Embiid; I honestly see them going further with Lowry-Embiid. This trade would make them more competitive now, provide more cap flexibility to make moves while Embiid is under contract, and allow them to stockpile future draft/trade assets (which would be helpful to move Tobias Harris).

can't tell if this guy is trolling or typical delusional homerism of our own players

Simmons is only going for Harden, not Lowry.

Morey would get crucified trading Simmons for Lowry, let alone Siakam
The type of trade that only Rob Babcock would do

[Psubs]

Why would Philly want Lowry over Harden. Simple answer, they wouldn't.

The point is that Morey thinks trading for Lowry was a better move than trading for Harden who turned into an MVP and scoring champ. That's bonkers unless he thinks really highly of Lowry.

It's not that Philly would want Lowry over Harden. It's that instead of giving up Simmons and a 3 FRPs for Harden - apparently Houston's ask - they would get Lowry, Powell/Davis/Whomever, and picks for Simmons.

As good as Simmons is as a player he is not a good fit with Embiid; I honestly see them going further with Lowry-Embiid. This trade would make them more competitive now, provide more cap flexibility to make moves while Embiid is under contract, and allow them to stockpile future draft/trade assets (which would be helpful to move Tobias Harris).

can't tell if this guy is trolling or typical delusional homerism of our own players

Simmons is only going for Harden, not Lowry.

Morey would get crucified trading Simmons for Lowry, let alone Siakam
The type of trade that only Rob Babcock would do

Ya, the 76ers would trade Tobias Harris for Lowry. Is there a 3rd team that would give a 1st and expirings for Harris? Celtics?

Maybe Boston just uses their TPE for losing Hayward.

[Kingsway_fan]

Golbert would look good next year on raps ...

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Why would Philly want Lowry over Harden. Simple answer, they wouldn't.

The point is that Morey thinks trading for Lowry was a better move than trading for Harden who turned into an MVP and scoring champ. That's bonkers unless he thinks really highly of Lowry.

It's not that Philly would want Lowry over Harden. It's that instead of giving up Simmons and a 3 FRPs for Harden - apparently Houston's ask - they would get Lowry, Powell/Davis/Whomever, and picks for Simmons.

As good as Simmons is as a player he is not a good fit with Embiid; I honestly see them going further with Lowry-Embiid. This trade would make them more competitive now, provide more cap flexibility to make moves while Embiid is under contract, and allow them to stockpile future draft/trade assets (which would be helpful to move Tobias Harris).

can't tell if this guy is trolling or typical delusional homerism of our own players

Simmons is only going for Harden, not Lowry.

Morey would get crucified trading Simmons for Lowry, let alone Siakam
The type of trade that only Rob Babcock would do

people overrating Lowry's trade value to the rest of the league. Noone is trading a young star in the making for a 34/35yo on his last legs for cap flexibility, when they are already $40M over the cap already. and then asking them to trade Tobias Harris as well. only to have spare parts around Embiid. lol. wtf thats franchise suicide there. and then the inevitable Embiid asking for a trade because you couldn't surround him with enough talent because you traded for an expiring 34/35 yo Lowry while you're already over the cap.

if you were Philly, would you honestly trade for Lowry, an expiring, to only go a little further into the playoffs that doesn't guarantee a championship? probably not.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

The point is that Morey thinks trading for Lowry was a better move than trading for Harden who turned into an MVP and scoring champ. That's bonkers unless he thinks really highly of Lowry.

It's not that Philly would want Lowry over Harden. It's that instead of giving up Simmons and a 3 FRPs for Harden - apparently Houston's ask - they would get Lowry, Powell/Davis/Whomever, and picks for Simmons.

As good as Simmons is as a player he is not a good fit with Embiid; I honestly see them going further with Lowry-Embiid. This trade would make them more competitive now, provide more cap flexibility to make moves while Embiid is under contract, and allow them to stockpile future draft/trade assets (which would be helpful to move Tobias Harris).

can't tell if this guy is trolling or typical delusional homerism of our own players

Simmons is only going for Harden, not Lowry.

Morey would get crucified trading Simmons for Lowry, let alone Siakam
The type of trade that only Rob Babcock would do

Ya, the 76ers would trade Tobias Harris for Lowry. Is there a 3rd team that would give a 1st and expirings for Harris? Celtics?

Maybe Boston just uses their TPE for losing Hayward.

ya pretty much. I think to lose Lowry for nothing + do right by Lowry, I'd accept future compensation in picks (2-3 FRP) + TPE.

[C-R-E-A-M-]

Lowry-Fred-Harden-OG-Baynes

Still have a max slot for Gobert in the offseason.

Lowry-Fred-Harden-OG-Gobert

[StopitLeo]

can't tell if this guy is trolling or typical delusional homerism of our own players

Simmons is only going for Harden, not Lowry.

Morey would get crucified trading Simmons for Lowry, let alone Siakam
The type of trade that only Rob Babcock would do

Maybe I don't see as much in Simmons as you do. If I'm Philly and can get something like Lowry, Powell, Davis, and at least 2 unprotected first round picks I would do it. That's a better team even if Simmons is easily the best individual player.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

can't tell if this guy is trolling or typical delusional homerism of our own players

Simmons is only going for Harden, not Lowry.

Morey would get crucified trading Simmons for Lowry, let alone Siakam
The type of trade that only Rob Babcock would do

Maybe I don't see as much in Simmons as you do. If I'm Philly and can get something like Lowry, Powell, Davis, and at least 2 unprotected first round picks I would do it. That's a better team even if Simmons is easily the best individual player.

Don't think Philly would do that.

Don't think Toronto would give up unprotected first rounders either for a non superstar player.

[Thegoatrap]

If we could land Harden and get an expiring Big, we could do some serious damage in the East.

[Asif16]

Harden and Gobert time.

FVV
Harden
OG
Siakam
Gobert

Its possible. Lmao let me dream

[Saul Goodman]

Myles Turner wont be a bad option now?


2021 1st top 10 protected
powell
johnson
mccaw

for

Turner


Turner/Baynes
Siakam/Boucher
OG/Watson/Bemry
VV/Davis/Thomas
Lowry/Flynn

[MessiahUjiri]

Two trades to set us up for the future:

Lowry to Philly for young assets
Norm + filler to Indy for Myles Turner


Trade 1:
Kyle Lowry, Patrick McCaw, Stanley Johnson for Seth Curry, Danny Green, Tyrese Maxey, Mike Scott

Trade 2:
Norm Powell and 2021 1st for Myles Turner


Fred / Flynn
Danny G / Curry / Maxey
OG / Bembry (Danny G spot minutes)
Siakam / Boucher
Turner / Baynes

I'm super high on Tyrese Maxey. He's going to be a star, and would be a great attacking complement to Fred and Flynn at the SG spot.

[Lukeem]

McCaw
Johnson
2nd pick(s)

For

Bjelicia

Save nurse from himself. Get some size and shooting for bench. Make a spot for Watson jr Bjelicia is still expiring

I would love to dump Mccaw and Johnson. I don't think there's any chance Sac does this. Unfortunately Mccaw, and especially Johnson just have zero value.

Stuck with McCaw until he expires and stuck with Stanley until they have to further guarantee his deal. Stuck with Norm because he brings starter talent. Lowry is still an allstar at 34. He would fetch more than some would like to admit.

Championship experience of McCaw

Picks has to be selling point

[Bruin]

Myles Turner isnt worth Powell and a 1st rounder in a stacked draft. Especially cause our pick is likely to not be as low as our last one (29th). Given our draft and development success, we could probably get a player better Turner in a draft like this.

I do Powell with maybe a pair of 2nds or some other filler. Not a 1st rounder or either of Malachi or Davis

[Bull-E]

Harry Giles might be this year's Christian Wood. If we go into next offseason with capspace I could see him being an option.

[sidsid]

can't tell if this guy is trolling or typical delusional homerism of our own players

Simmons is only going for Harden, not Lowry.

Morey would get crucified trading Simmons for Lowry, let alone Siakam
The type of trade that only Rob Babcock would do

Ya, the 76ers would trade Tobias Harris for Lowry. Is there a 3rd team that would give a 1st and expirings for Harris? Celtics?

Maybe Boston just uses their TPE for losing Hayward.

ya pretty much. I think to lose Lowry for nothing + do right by Lowry, I'd accept future compensation in picks (2-3 FRP) + TPE.

Tobias Harris has Wiggins level negative value. If he's dumped on another team, that's the team that's getting the draft compensation. Which means we'd have to keep him.

That's the Lowry trade that gets us a kings ransom (picks and pick swaps without protection). Especially if Lowry is having another great season by the deadline.

An expiring contract that's a high level all-star with significant wins above replacement that can be resigned to a smaller number afterwards is tremendous value for lux tax team like the Sixers.

[Raptors_128]

Man I hope we don’t just keep running back the same core over and over again after multiple early playoff exits.

The Raptors have 3 options:

1. Keep the core. Continue drafting in the 20s and hope we hit on some of the picks.
2. Contend in the short-term. Aggressively pursue a Harden trade.
3. Rebuild. Move Lowry/Norm/Siakam/FVV for assets. Gather as much young talent and draft capital as possible. Keep younger guys like OG/TD/Flynn.

I hope we go with 2 or 3.

[Slackstring701]

Man I hope we don’t just keep running back the same core over and over again after multiple early playoff exits.

The Raptors have 3 options:

1. Keep the core. Continue drafting in the 20s and hope we hit on some of the picks.
2. Contend in the short-term. Aggressively pursue a Harden trade.
3. Rebuild. Move Lowry/Norm/Siakam/FVV for assets. Gather as much young talent and draft capital as possible. Keep younger guys like OG/TD/Flynn.

I hope we go with 2 or 3.

Lol 0% chance we blow up this team

[TronoWrappers]

Is there a way to trade for Embiid without giving up Pascal or OG?

[douggood]

Two trades to set us up for the future:

Lowry to Philly for young assets
Norm + filler to Indy for Myles Turner


Trade 1:
Kyle Lowry, Patrick McCaw, Stanley Johnson for Seth Curry, Danny Green, Tyrese Maxey, Mike Scott

Trade 2:
Norm Powell and 2021 1st for Myles Turner


Fred / Flynn
Danny G / Curry / Maxey
OG / Bembry (Danny G spot minutes)
Siakam / Boucher
Turner / Baynes

I'm super high on Tyrese Maxey. He's going to be a star, and would be a great attacking complement to Fred and Flynn at the SG spot.

so lowry + powell + 2021 1st for turner + maxey basically.

how does that make us better now or going into the future.
my read on the league is it doesnt have a high value of Turner, everyone seems to pass trading for him even through he is on the market, locked up and cheap.
boston passed, nop passed.

anylitics probably show that he is an empty stats guy like hassan whiteside.