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Re: Giannis SIGNS 

Post#581 » by stellation » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:32 am

rilamann wrote:Going to be a lot of wet pillows in Toronto tonight.

And in Milwaukee, I'm sure.
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Post#582 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:35 am

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Can't say I'll miss him quoting from above like that. Never got used to it. One can only assume he hangs his toilet paper the wrong way too.
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Post#583 » by raferfenix » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:49 am

Interested in how the Bogdan part of The Athletic article connects that fiasco to how Giannis has always “made it clear that he had no interest in being buddy-buddy with stars around the league.”

Despite that he did some recruiting this summer which the Bucks failed to take advantage of in spectacular fashion. I suspect that was discussed plenty at these meetings, and thankfully he was persuaded.

All of which made the Bogdanovic situation so concerning for the Bucks last month.

Losing out on a player in free agency was one thing, but losing a player whom Antetokounmpo was known to have heavily recruited just weeks before this fork-in-the-road moment for the franchise was quite another. It certainly didn’t help matters that it had all been so messy.

The Bucks, of course, believed they had a sign-and-trade lined up with Sacramento for the 28-year-old small forward that came shortly after the Jrue Holiday deal with New Orleans. In terms of the possible ripple effect on Antetokounmpo’s choice, sources say there was extreme confidence within the Bucks at the time that their franchise centerpiece would sign the deal, in part, because of the moves that had been made. But then it all fell apart.

Bogdanovic headed for Atlanta. The NBA launched a tampering investigation into the ordeal, in large part, because news of an alleged agreement had leaked via a news outlet nearly five days before the formal start of free agency. The Bucks knew that none of this would help, but it was tough to tell how much it would hurt.


https://theathletic.com/2263457/2020/12/15/giannis-antetokounmpo-largest-contract-in-nba-history/
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Re: Giannis SIGNS 

Post#584 » by Big Dog Yank » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:52 am

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rilamann wrote:Going to be a lot of wet pillows in Toronto tonight.

And in Milwaukee, I'm sure.


Fast forward to September 15, 2021 and Milwaukee's maternity wards are going to be overwhelmed with "Giannis Babies" from all the Bucks fans celebrating tonight. It'll be a baby boom for southeastern Wisconsin.
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Post#585 » by trublu » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:53 am

Pachinko_ wrote:Ok, I need your collective wisdom and experience.
Can you think of a single international star, who had the opportunity to stay in one team forever and bolted instead?
I can't think of any.
Yao Ming
Olajuwon
Ginobili
Nowitzki
Parker (until they traded him)
Duncan (technically international, right?)

That's my list, I have the brain of a very small monkey and I'm ready to reach my small sample conclusion: if you're a small market team DONT DRAFT AMERICANS, THEY HAVE THIS UNHEALTHY FIXATION WITH LA


It's early days, but I reckon Doncic is trending in the same direction. He seems like a loyal guy. It depends on what moves Dallas make in the future though. Getting KP was a good start. They do have experience in keeping an international superstar happy.
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Post#586 » by buckbeer » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:54 am

YES! Just saw the news that Giannis has signed the supermax extension

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Post#587 » by Coach Carter » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:57 am

For all the greek buck fans that became fans because of giannis (myself included), looks like we are going the distance lol. If you started supporting from 2013 like me, that's 8 years and soon to be a decade of support. Gotta have some loyalty after that, even if giannis eventually decides to leave.
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Post#588 » by KidA24 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:58 am

Pachinko_ wrote:Ok, I need your collective wisdom and experience.
Can you think of a single international star, who had the opportunity to stay in one team forever and bolted instead?
I can't think of any.
Yao Ming
Olajuwon
Ginobili
Nowitzki
Parker (until they traded him)
Duncan (technically international, right?)

That's my list, I have the brain of a very small monkey and I'm ready to reach my small sample conclusion: if you're a small market team DONT DRAFT AMERICANS, THEY HAVE THIS UNHEALTHY FIXATION WITH LA


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Post#589 » by trwi7 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:58 am

lol god damn Raptors fans are sensitive. Pour it on for a year but then you come back at them with the slightest of jabs and they freak out. Should say most of them handled it pretty well but there were a few, oh man.
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Post#590 » by SupremeHustle » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:02 am

raferfenix wrote:Sources tell Jake Fischer from Bleacher Report that Giannis had a financial consultant look into the tax situations in Florida and Texas before deciding to stay:

Instead of signing the five-year supermax, Antetokounmpo weighed signing a two-year maximum extension and then inking a four-year supermax in the summer of 2022, when he would have reached free agency as a 10th-year player, eligible for an even higher portion of any team’s salary cap.

Sources tell B/R that Antetokounmpo’s representation also enlisted the services of a financial consultant to consider how a two-year max and a four-year max would have compared in the states of Florida and Texas, as opposed to Wisconsin.

In those scenarios, Antetokounmpo would have netted roughly $33.3 million over that two-year extension after taxes, plus approximately $114 million over a four-year deal in the states of Texas and Florida.

These are based off projections of the league cap—which is only set up as of now through 2023-24—but 151.3 million over six years, compared to the $124.2 million after taxes in Wisconsin, in just his five-year deal he ultimately agreed to, tipped scales in the favor of Milwaukee.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2922585-source-giannis-compared-bucks-supermax-offer-to-texas-florida-scenarios.amp.html


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Post#591 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:06 am

KidA24 wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:Ok, I need your collective wisdom and experience.
Can you think of a single international star, who had the opportunity to stay in one team forever and bolted instead?
I can't think of any.
Yao Ming
Olajuwon
Ginobili
Nowitzki
Parker (until they traded him)
Duncan (technically international, right?)

That's my list, I have the brain of a very small monkey and I'm ready to reach my small sample conclusion: if you're a small market team DONT DRAFT AMERICANS, THEY HAVE THIS UNHEALTHY FIXATION WITH LA


Pau.

I though he was traded?
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Post#592 » by Magic Giannison » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:06 am

Good, now thats over can we get back to positive stuff?

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Post#593 » by buckbeer » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:07 am

Kawhi left the Raptors cold like Bosh, but Giannis stayed with the Bucks and call Milwaukee his home.
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Post#594 » by KidA24 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:09 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
KidA24 wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:Ok, I need your collective wisdom and experience.
Can you think of a single international star, who had the opportunity to stay in one team forever and bolted instead?
I can't think of any.
Yao Ming
Olajuwon
Ginobili
Nowitzki
Parker (until they traded him)
Duncan (technically international, right?)

That's my list, I have the brain of a very small monkey and I'm ready to reach my small sample conclusion: if you're a small market team DONT DRAFT AMERICANS, THEY HAVE THIS UNHEALTHY FIXATION WITH LA


Pau.

I though he was traded?


He left LA in free agency.
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Post#595 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:13 am

trublu wrote:It's early days, but I reckon Doncic is trending in the same direction. He seems like a loyal guy. It depends on what moves Dallas make in the future though. Getting KP was a good start. They do have experience in keeping an international superstar happy.

Well this is my theory: if you (or someone) comes to Greece to live as an American, and you move between cities, they will probably feel about the same to you. But if you ask a Greek from Athens if there is any difference between Athens and Salonika for example, they can literally write you a whole book.

What I'm saying is, the nuances between cities in the same country are probably not as important or even noticeable to a foreigner. When you're moving to a another country to work, from your perspective the main thing is: you're not home. Everything else is a bit of a blur for a very long time. That's been my experience anyway.
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Post#596 » by JayMKE » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:24 am

lol it’s good im banned from GB, there are some salty ass bitches out there.
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Post#597 » by Serge28 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:24 am

I knew it. The man literally has loyalty inside his DNA!

Feeling elated today. Relieved. Vindicated.

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Post#598 » by FrieAaron » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:28 am

raferfenix wrote:Sources tell Jake Fischer from Bleacher Report that Giannis had a financial consultant look into the tax situations in Florida and Texas before deciding to stay:

Instead of signing the five-year supermax, Antetokounmpo weighed signing a two-year maximum extension and then inking a four-year supermax in the summer of 2022, when he would have reached free agency as a 10th-year player, eligible for an even higher portion of any team’s salary cap.

Sources tell B/R that Antetokounmpo’s representation also enlisted the services of a financial consultant to consider how a two-year max and a four-year max would have compared in the states of Florida and Texas, as opposed to Wisconsin.

In those scenarios, Antetokounmpo would have netted roughly $33.3 million over that two-year extension after taxes, plus approximately $114 million over a four-year deal in the states of Texas and Florida.

These are based off projections of the league cap—which is only set up as of now through 2023-24—but 151.3 million over six years, compared to the $124.2 million after taxes in Wisconsin, in just his five-year deal he ultimately agreed to, tipped scales in the favor of Milwaukee.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2922585-source-giannis-compared-bucks-supermax-offer-to-texas-florida-scenarios.amp.html


Sounds more like the agent threw all that together to present him with options. Doesn't seem like something Giannis would be too concerned with to me.
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Post#599 » by jimmybones » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:30 am

I drove past the Fiserv today like I have many times before and when I saw the huge mural of Giannis it made me smile, like always. But, today - with the perspective of keeping our Greek God and what it means to this team and this city - it was more special than ever. There is still work to be done, but today, I'm just loving every second of this. Happy to enjoy it with you knuckleheads as well.
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Post#600 » by PhoenixMilwauke » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:31 am

Snippet from the ESPN+ article. Interesting stuff
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As the process around Holiday dragged out and the Nov. 18 draft inched closer, the Bucks upped their initial offer of Bledsoe and a couple of first-round draft picks and a future pick swap, eventually reluctantly agreeing to include veteran guard George Hill.

The Bucks endured a long weekend while New Orleans mulled over the offers and, effectively, the direction of their team. Griffin eventually came back with another ask: one more first-round pick and one more pick swap to make for three total first rounders and two swaps. Essentially, New Orleans wanted to control the Bucks' draft for five years, starting in 2020.

This last offer staggered Milwaukee. As the decision-makers discussed it internally, sources said, they knew it was an overpay. They also knew there was the matter of eventually extending Holiday, which is expected to cost in the range of $30 million per season, sources said. But they recognized that not only would it be a tremendous upgrade to their roster but a strong message to the man in Greece, who was waiting to see substantial improvement.

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