jonbob17 wrote:pepe1991 wrote:jonbob17 wrote:
You believe 3/4 of the 2021 lottery screams bust? I mean, it is will be a difficult year for these freshman(pros) to further develop their skills with all the game cancellations. It may also be more difficult for scouts to get a good read on players abilities.
To suggest this class is somehow worse than an average year is absurd.
I assume he though:
3/4 of 2020 picks scream busts.
"2021" was start of next sentence.
I don't know enough of 2021 class, but i'm not too hyped at all.
Cade is having some nice numbers but it's obvious he isn't playmaker he is being marketed as. He also plays against terrible, terrible competition. He also lacks explosivness or athletics where i'm too confident to belive he'll be better than some Gordon Hayward or so. Sure guy looks crafty, but how much of it is him being taller than people who guard him?
Well time will tell.
Green going to G league was kind a disaster for him.What's going on with G league nowdays anyway? They are playing some WMCA level "games" now? He could pick better competition to play against if he still plays in highschool
I know this kid Prkacin because he is from my country, if it's not that i would probably never hear for him.
Suggs is still hurt if i'm not mistaking?
Zaire Williams draft stock is crashing and burning with some pathetic performances.
Kuminga's ceiling to me seems to have OG Anunoby -ceiling - Stanley Johnson floor.
Generally very unimpressive first look at mocks.
He additionally said 2021 looks the same.
This is the best freshman class in a long time.
Cade is 6'8", can pass, shoot, and play defense. His explosiveness is good enough. He has elite vision and creates angles. There was a recent Slovenian that had similar criticisms. OK State is terrible, and he may have made a mistake going there, but that doesn't mean he is any less good.
Same goes for Green in the G League, he doesn't have less talent now. Same for Ball last year going to New Zealand. Those may have been bad decisions and moved their developmental path.
Even the guys struggling in college like Boston or Zaire. They are 6'7" / 6'8" and can shoot or at least project to shoot. You can't teach that size/skill combination.
Cade commited 22 turovers 23 assists.
For guy who rides 27,5% usage rate, playing against crappy competition and racking just 18,8 ppg on 3,8 apg isn't that impressive. College, as it is, is already very bad competition as some mirror toward nba, and Cade only plays against worst among the worst. Half of the teams he faced so far are yet to win 3 games.
He isn't playmaker, he is player who gets the ball because he is best player on a team. it's such a common thing among youth competitions. Best player gets the ball the most,regardless of what "position" he should be playing.
If you look at stats, Marcus Smart averaged 18,8 ppg, 4,8 apg at college and never really was playmaker in nba.
Competition changed, it was obvious some skills with him flat out won't translate, him being bouncy, bulky guard worked at college because his huge frame shielded him, but in nba he was just chubby looking shorty.
His efficiency numbers are very good, but again, he is yet to play anybody good.
Ball is pretty awful , did you watch those preseason games? His only positive ( very, very limited sample) is that he might be able to rebound ok in rookie year(s).
He really can't shoot nor run offense, to young ,too unexperienced, too wild, lacks any control.
Luka does not belong in this conversation, that boy could retire at 18 , never play in nba, and be in conversation for basketball HOF. It's like comparing Fiat Punto and and Le Ferrari.
NBA average size is 6'7. It's impressive when you are highschool boy, in nba, being 6'7 means at average 250 players are taller than you.
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