Giannis SIGNS

[WeekapaugGroove]

People won't like the first 15 minutes of the Nate and Danny pod from last night. But it is all Milwaukee and Giannis.

Their take is that Giannis made a dumb decision, essentially because Buck's management has locked the team into an aging roster with no upside.

Link - > https://www.stitcher.com/show/duncd-on-basketball/episode/duncd-on-prime-preview-bucks-here-uta-202021-outlook-with-david-locke-80185705

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No thanks. I can't stand their voices.

Ha I thought I was the only one. While I acknowledge they have some good basketball knowledge they annoy me, the smug know it all vibe is just too much for me and I quit listening to them a while back.

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[emunney]

People won't like the first 15 minutes of the Nate and Danny pod from last night. But it is all Milwaukee and Giannis.

Their take is that Giannis made a dumb decision, essentially because Buck's management has locked the team into an aging roster with no upside.

Link - > https://www.stitcher.com/show/duncd-on-basketball/episode/duncd-on-prime-preview-bucks-here-uta-202021-outlook-with-david-locke-80185705

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I assume they think Steph is dumb for pursuing a new contract with the Ws.

[coolhandluke121]

People won't like the first 15 minutes of the Nate and Danny pod from last night. But it is all Milwaukee and Giannis.

Their take is that Giannis made a dumb decision, essentially because Buck's management has locked the team into an aging roster with no upside.

I didn't listen but there's nothing wrong with pointing out that their window is probably 2-3 years. That's just an objective fact unless a surprise DJW/Nwora emerges as a good player. What they're missing is that Giannis can easily work his way to a preferred destination with ~1.5 years left on his deal if it comes to that, and the Bucks will have leverage to get a respectable return because he's locked in for longer. They come off as resentful by acting like that's not a viable contingency for all parties.

The real question is how much the Bucks have to pay Jrue and whether anyone steps up to give them a slightly better long-term future as guys like Khris, Jrue, and especially Brook age (Brook has aged dramatically before our eyes already IMO).

[greekbuck34]

The Bucks could still lose Giannis: A gloomy but necessary thought exercise

https://theathletic.com/2263884/2020/12/16/milwaukee-bucks-could-still-lose-giannis-antetokounmpo/?source=emp_shared_article

[JayMKE]

They’re really going to be pissed when Giannis becomes the back to back to back MVP in Milwaukee

[WeekapaugGroove]

The Bucks could still lose Giannis: A gloomy but necessary thought exercise

https://theathletic.com/2263884/2020/12/16/milwaukee-bucks-could-still-lose-giannis-antetokounmpo/?source=emp_shared_article

Yeah the athletic can also eat a dick.

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[coolhandluke121]

I assume they think Steph is dumb for pursuing a new contract with the Ws.

I mean let's be real, shouldn't they be talking about what teams should be on Steph's short trade demand list? If the Bucks hadn't traded so many picks for Jrue, they would probably be pretty high on that hypothetical list.

I'm not trying to litigate the Jrue trade again, but those people who dismissed the notion that the Bucks might have done better by saving those picks for a bigger opportunity are going to have some serious backtracking to do if Harden and then Steph both hit the trade market within months of the Jrue deal. Again, that's why you always insist on getting fair value for assets, except in the most pressing circumstances. Granted, getting Jrue to convince Giannis to sign might qualify, but all indications are that the only real demand he made is to continue investing in the team as much as possible and start paying the tax.

[JimmyTheKid]

People won't like the first 15 minutes of the Nate and Danny pod from last night. But it is all Milwaukee and Giannis.

Their take is that Giannis made a dumb decision, essentially because Buck's management has locked the team into an aging roster with no upside.

Link - > https://www.stitcher.com/show/duncd-on-basketball/episode/duncd-on-prime-preview-bucks-here-uta-202021-outlook-with-david-locke-80185705

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I'm not going to listen, but again, Giannis is just built different. While he may say winning is all that matters, loyalty and character are right up there, too. I wouldn't have blamed Giannis had he left even though it would have been devastating for me as a Bucks fan, and much more importantly, devastating for the city of Milwaukee. I'm not completely sold on this roster makeup even though the Jrue Holliday acquisition definitely improved the team.

But thats what makes Giannis, and this decision, even more special. I used to be able to get $25 lower bowl center seats at the BC two hours before tip off. Head down to Old World 3rd, pick a spot, grab a bite and a couple pints, walk into the arena halfway through the 1st quarter. There was rarely a buzz, rarely a crowd, never had to wait for a table or spot at the bar. It was easy in, easy out everywhere. Now its an event every night. What Giannis just did for the city is transformational. And cannot be overstated enough. It might not have been the best decision for his basketball career. But his legacy and impact will never be questioned. Build the f***ing statue right now.

[ABucksFan]

One thing is clear. We need to win in the next 2-3 years. Giannis has made it clear that is his priority.

[Ron Swanson]

Enjoy a lot of the Dunc'd on content but just like their Mock Offseason series, those guys worship at the altar of Sam Hinkie and overvalue the **** out of mediocre draft picks and "cap flexibility" over having actual good players. I honestly didn't think that anyone outside of rival GM's would actually be against Giannis re-signing, but this just reaffirms that a large portion of knowledgeable fans in the podcast sphere and media are just as complicit in helping drive the "superstars to larger markets" narrative as ESPN and casual dolts are.

[ReasonablySober]

I assume they think Steph is dumb for pursuing a new contract with the Ws.

No because they have the next Giannis on their roster.

[All The Bucks]

I mean let's be real, shouldn't they be talking about what teams should be on Steph's short trade demand list? If the Bucks hadn't traded so many picks for Jrue, they would probably be pretty high on that hypothetical list.

I'm not trying to litigate the Jrue trade again, but those people who dismissed the notion that the Bucks might have done better by saving those picks for a bigger opportunity are going to have some serious backtracking to do if Harden and then Steph both hit the trade market within months of the Jrue deal. Again, that's why you always insist on getting fair value for assets, except in the most pressing circumstances. Granted, getting Jrue to convince Giannis to sign might qualify, but all indications are that the only real demand he made is to continue investing in the team as much as possible and start paying the tax.

This is great and all and I agree with you to an extent every time you post it. It was a clear overpay and apparently (the news suggests at least) that the Bucks knew it was an overpay. But there was a small window for Giannis to sign the Supermax. And when that window opened, the only top 30 level player who was clearly available was Jrue Holiday. Not only does it appear that Giannis needed an acquisition like this to make the commitment, allowing a competitor to land Jrue instead, might have further cemented the idea in his mind that the deck was stacked against him in Milwaukee. Waiting for a Harden to demand out or a Steph to became available really wasn't an option. I think we can put this to rest.

[buckboy]

The Bucks could still lose Giannis: A gloomy but necessary thought exercise

https://theathletic.com/2263884/2020/12/16/milwaukee-bucks-could-still-lose-giannis-antetokounmpo/?source=emp_shared_article

Yeah the athletic can also eat a dick.

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Such an obvious salt piece.

[JayMKE]

Yea the saltiness is amazing

Our roster can be reconfigured easy because we have the best player in the league. Another reason the media is so pissed is where do you think all the pathetic ring chasers will go once Lebron is retired?

[buckboy]

MIddleton and Holiday are assets and will remain assets for a while. Our draft picks being gone doesn't help, but isn't some huge hindrance. Just need to pick decently in the late 20s. Ya know, like every other title contender.

[dedned]

People won't like the first 15 minutes of the Nate and Danny pod from last night. But it is all Milwaukee and Giannis.

Their take is that Giannis made a dumb decision, essentially because Buck's management has locked the team into an aging roster with no upside.

Link - > https://www.stitcher.com/show/duncd-on-basketball/episode/duncd-on-prime-preview-bucks-here-uta-202021-outlook-with-david-locke-80185705

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No thanks. I can't stand their voices.

Ha I thought I was the only one. While I acknowledge they have some good basketball knowledge they annoy me, the smug know it all vibe is just too much for me and I quit listening to them a while back.

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I quit listening to basketball podcasts cause they make every statement sound like a question when its not. It's annoying and it seems like every basketball podcast does that.

[machu46]

Sources tell Jake Fischer from Bleacher Report that Giannis had a financial consultant look into the tax situations in Florida and Texas before deciding to stay:

Instead of signing the five-year supermax, Antetokounmpo weighed signing a two-year maximum extension and then inking a four-year supermax in the summer of 2022, when he would have reached free agency as a 10th-year player, eligible for an even higher portion of any team’s salary cap.

Sources tell B/R that Antetokounmpo’s representation also enlisted the services of a financial consultant to consider how a two-year max and a four-year max would have compared in the states of Florida and Texas, as opposed to Wisconsin.

In those scenarios, Antetokounmpo would have netted roughly $33.3 million over that two-year extension after taxes, plus approximately $114 million over a four-year deal in the states of Texas and Florida.

These are based off projections of the league cap—which is only set up as of now through 2023-24—but 151.3 million over six years, compared to the $124.2 million after taxes in Wisconsin, in just his five-year deal he ultimately agreed to, tipped scales in the favor of Milwaukee.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2922585-source-giannis-compared-bucks-supermax-offer-to-texas-florida-scenarios.amp.html

What is this section saying exactly? If I'm reading it right, it looks like it's saying:

2 year extension + 4 year deal with Miami or Dallas = $147.3 million
6 years of ??? = $151.3 million
5 years in Milwaukee = $124.2 million (and a 6th year would make it roughly the same money as those other 6 year options)

And that this tipped the scales in favor of Milwaukee because ???

[MickeyDavis]

Yea the saltiness is amazing

Our roster can be reconfigured easy because we have the best player in the league. Another reason the media is so pissed is where do you think all the pathetic ring chasers will go once Lebron is retired?

Yup, they all had to pivot from "who will Giannis sign with next summer?" to "how soon will Giannis ask for a trade"?

I ignore the stupidity, it comes with having a superstar. No one bothered with any of this with Bogut. Or any other Bucks player.

[MikeIsGood]

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Bumping this so that everyone can see it and experience it

[GoldenAntlers]

ESPN spent about 45 seconds congratulating Giannis and then they just started talking ****, lol. Not surprised, but damn, give Giannis and the Bucks one day without talking about how it affects the Miami Heat, please.

They love talking about the Heat beating the Bucks but never say a word about Giannis getting injured in a game where he was aboslutely beasting, but the second they talk about the finals its all, dragic and bam were hurt. no mention of a very bad road team not playing road games, or the Bucks two opponents both being from Florida. smh.

SAS referred to Giannis signing in Milwaukee as having a "catastrophic impact" for Miami..lol

Skip and Shannon were a lot more complimentary, but then they start going in on how they don't think Giannis has the drive to be a champion and that he will never lose sleep over losing series or never getting a ring and I'm over here like.... uhhh..... isn't that one of the main reasons we love him? He has an insatiable drive to be a champion. These dudes are all so out of touch with Milwaukee. I hope Giannis sees and hears all this bull, because he's going to destroy cats if people keep talking this way.