Giannis is gone: Mavs Next Target

[jayjaysee]

As some more regular posters know.. I always wanted Dipo as I didn’t think the others were realistic. So now that Giannis is gone and Jrue is unlikely leaving .. I’m still sticking with Dipo.

I'm still out on this. I guess of who is left as a FA I'm now a Gobert man even though that's not ideal with KP. But he's clearly the best player available.

So I think Dallas keeps tabs on both of the Hawks free agents and how that goes. I think they should poke around Draymond. If he looks back to form but the Warriors don't I'd see if he could be pried free.

But I know this, they will be active. And when a team with some good players with big contracts is ready to start over Dallas will be calling to set them free.

I understand the hope. But if the Hawks are faltering, they will probably replace Coach Pierce before they trade Collins, Gallinari, or Bogdan. That is to much talent not to believe in those players helping out for the immediate future.

If the Timberwolves are floundering, I think a call to the Hawks would be appropriate to see what they can get for KAT.

Minnesota has no reason to trade KAT this year. They just drafted number one overall and traded for KAT’s best friend. Those two things bought Minnesota at least a full season out of KAT rumors.

[Buzzard]

I'm still out on this. I guess of who is left as a FA I'm now a Gobert man even though that's not ideal with KP. But he's clearly the best player available.

So I think Dallas keeps tabs on both of the Hawks free agents and how that goes. I think they should poke around Draymond. If he looks back to form but the Warriors don't I'd see if he could be pried free.

But I know this, they will be active. And when a team with some good players with big contracts is ready to start over Dallas will be calling to set them free.

I understand the hope. But if the Hawks are faltering, they will probably replace Coach Pierce before they trade Collins, Gallinari, or Bogdan. That is to much talent not to believe in those players helping out for the immediate future.

If the Timberwolves are floundering, I think a call to the Hawks would be appropriate to see what they can get for KAT.

Minnesota has no reason to trade KAT this year. They just drafted number one overall and traded for KAT’s best friend. Those two things bought Minnesota at least a full season out of KAT rumors.

The proof is in the pudding. They also have new management and a high payroll. Those are two things which are not congruent to standing pat if they are faltering again.

[gswhoops]

As some more regular posters know.. I always wanted Dipo as I didn’t think the others were realistic. So now that Giannis is gone and Jrue is unlikely leaving .. I’m still sticking with Dipo.

I'm still out on this. I guess of who is left as a FA I'm now a Gobert man even though that's not ideal with KP. But he's clearly the best player available.

But I think a deadline trade is something to really look for. And no the little Mavs don't want Zach LaVine and yes obviously they have the assets to get him. Beal is the dream, but they really don't have assets for him and Washington isn't moving him.

So I think Dallas keeps tabs on both of the Hawks free agents and how that goes. I think they should poke around Draymond. If he looks back to form but the Warriors don't I'd see if he could be pried free.

But I know this, they will be active. And when a team with some good players with big contracts is ready to start over Dallas will be calling to set them free.

I doubt the Warriors consider taking offers on Draymond, especially if he looks back to form. I think the FO is ride or die with Steph/Klay/Green unless an offer too good to be true comes along.

[gswhoops]

To the OP's question, Dallas has a lot of salary matching ability but not a *ton* of assets after Luka/KP, so I'd be looking at an overpaid and/or misfitting but productive vet for salary relief and lower-level assets

Tobi, Kemba, Gordon, Lavine, McCollum?

[Ducklett]

I think the Mavs, in the play for free agency, left themselves without a ton of assets going forward to make trades. What exactly do they have to trade for some of these players?

[Mr B]

Right now, our biggest need is to fill that PF position. Absolutely NO free agents jump my eyes, so I'd use that money to re-sign J-Rich. I love our roster, so I wouldn't want to involve anyone besides expirings (unless things go bad). Realistically these are the names I could see that doesn't need too much value to get:

- OPJ (CHI) - Injury prone, doesn't fit the rebuild.

- Griffin (DET) - Short, but bad contract. Doesn't fit the rebuild and takes minutes away from the young pieces.

Both could probably be obtainable for expirings (THJ/Johnson) and 2nd rounders. To me they are worth a shot to see if they can get back to theur former selves. Playing with Doncic and co. should put them in a confortable situation to do so.

I still prefer Aaron Gordon over both of those two.


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[Mr B]

As some more regular posters know.. I always wanted Dipo as I didn’t think the others were realistic. So now that Giannis is gone and Jrue is unlikely leaving .. I’m still sticking with Dipo.

I'm still out on this. I guess of who is left as a FA I'm now a Gobert man even though that's not ideal with KP. But he's clearly the best player available.

But I think a deadline trade is something to really look for. And no the little Mavs don't want Zach LaVine and yes obviously they have the assets to get him. Beal is the dream, but they really don't have assets for him and Washington isn't moving him.

So I think Dallas keeps tabs on both of the Hawks free agents and how that goes. I think they should poke around Draymond. If he looks back to form but the Warriors don't I'd see if he could be pried free.

But I know this, they will be active. And when a team with some good players with big contracts is ready to start over Dallas will be calling to set them free.

I doubt the Warriors consider taking offers on Draymond, especially if he looks back to form. I think the FO is ride or die with Steph/Klay/Green unless an offer too good to be true comes along.

Even with their cap situation?


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[Mr B]

I think the Mavs, in the play for free agency, left themselves without a ton of assets going forward to make trades. What exactly do they have to trade for some of these players?

Expiring contracts. They have to trade with teams that are over the cap or in the luxury tax. That’s why I think a guy like Draymond would be perfect. Should still be a high level defender and can still shoot the 3. I know they still really like him but moving them would help their cap situation.


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[Buzzard]

I think the Mavs, in the play for free agency, left themselves without a ton of assets going forward to make trades. What exactly do they have to trade for some of these players?

I consider Richardson their best asset outside of Luka and KP. Downside is he will be looking to get paid as a UFA next season.
I like THJ as a expiring. Then they have Green and Terry.
I don't like their other bigs. I see them as possible starters only because, outside of KP, they don't have any great talent at those positions.

[Texas Chuck]

Would Dallas take on Eric Gordon if it minimized what they need to give up for PJ Tucker in the case Houston goes full teardown?

I would ask what else is Houston giving Dallas to take Tucker/Gordon. Gordon has more negative value than Tucker has positive for sure.

[Texas Chuck]

I doubt the Warriors consider taking offers on Draymond, especially if he looks back to form. I think the FO is ride or die with Steph/Klay/Green unless an offer too good to be true comes along.

I think that's probably right. But I'd do my due diligence at least.

[walaysapi]

I believe Gobert should be their target, possibly via SnT of Porzingis. I also think Fournier gets an MLE to be there next season too.

Luka, J-Rich, Fournier, DFS, Gobert
Brunson, Burke, THJ, Green, Kleber, Powell

Why would they SnT Gobert for Porzingis when they could just sign him

[walaysapi]

I believe Gobert should be their target, possibly via SnT of Porzingis. I also think Fournier gets an MLE to be there next season too.

Luka, J-Rich, Fournier, DFS, Gobert
Brunson, Burke, THJ, Green, Kleber, Powell

Why would they SnT Gobert for Porzingis when they could just sign him

[gswhoops]

I'm still out on this. I guess of who is left as a FA I'm now a Gobert man even though that's not ideal with KP. But he's clearly the best player available.

But I think a deadline trade is something to really look for. And no the little Mavs don't want Zach LaVine and yes obviously they have the assets to get him. Beal is the dream, but they really don't have assets for him and Washington isn't moving him.

So I think Dallas keeps tabs on both of the Hawks free agents and how that goes. I think they should poke around Draymond. If he looks back to form but the Warriors don't I'd see if he could be pried free.

But I know this, they will be active. And when a team with some good players with big contracts is ready to start over Dallas will be calling to set them free.

I doubt the Warriors consider taking offers on Draymond, especially if he looks back to form. I think the FO is ride or die with Steph/Klay/Green unless an offer too good to be true comes along.

Even with their cap situation?


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Yes. We just paid $80 million for one season of Kelly Oubre, I don't see the FO dumping a core guy for pieces over salary concerns.

[Mr B]

I doubt the Warriors consider taking offers on Draymond, especially if he looks back to form. I think the FO is ride or die with Steph/Klay/Green unless an offer too good to be true comes along.

Even with their cap situation?


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Yes. We just paid $80 million for one season of Kelly Oubre, I don't see the FO dumping a core guy for pieces over salary concerns.

I guess we’ll see.


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[Swish1906]

I would roll the dice and go after Jonathan Issac. Its a risk, but has a huge payoff. Offer him 4/100M w/ a TO on Y4. Probably need to stretch Powell to get it done, as well as waive WCS and renounce THJ. But you can keep Richardson's bird rights and resign him after the Issac deal.

G - Jalen Brunson / Trey Burke / Tyrell Terry
G - Josh Richardson / Josh Green
F - Luka Doncic / Dorian Finney-Smith / Tyler Bey
F - Jonathan Issac / Dorian Finney-Smith / Tyler Bey
C - Kristaps Porzingis / Maxi Kleber / BOBAN

Does Orlando match that? Also, not sure that bench has enough scoring.

3rd year and people still putting him as F in depth charts

And no, Brunson would never start over DFS. Isaac would replace THJ

[Texas Chuck]

I would roll the dice and go after Jonathan Issac. Its a risk, but has a huge payoff. Offer him 4/100M w/ a TO on Y4. Probably need to stretch Powell to get it done, as well as waive WCS and renounce THJ. But you can keep Richardson's bird rights and resign him after the Issac deal.

G - Jalen Brunson / Trey Burke / Tyrell Terry
G - Josh Richardson / Josh Green
F - Luka Doncic / Dorian Finney-Smith / Tyler Bey
F - Jonathan Issac / Dorian Finney-Smith / Tyler Bey
C - Kristaps Porzingis / Maxi Kleber / BOBAN

Does Orlando match that? Also, not sure that bench has enough scoring.

3rd year and people still putting him as F in depth charts

And no, Brunson would never start over DFS

Oh Blazers knows Luka plays PG--but lots of people list depth charts by the position they defend. And if he's really starting Brunson it makes no sense to list him as the SF.

But yeah Dorian is more likely to start especially if he is worried about not enough bench scoring. Brunson helps more in that area than Dorian.

[zimpy27]

I believe Gobert should be their target, possibly via SnT of Porzingis. I also think Fournier gets an MLE to be there next season too.

Luka, J-Rich, Fournier, DFS, Gobert
Brunson, Burke, THJ, Green, Kleber, Powell

Why would they SnT Gobert for Porzingis when they could just sign him

They may not trade Porzingis, they may trade other pieces like Powell and Kleber and picks. The reason they trade is it allows them to add/keep THJ, J-Rich, Fournier, Boban, WCS, Hinton, Terry. They'd have to clear these guys to add Gobert in FA.

[BlazersBroncos]

Oh Blazers knows Luka plays PG--but lots of people list depth charts by the position they defend. And if he's really starting Brunson it makes no sense to list him as the SF.

Ya, I do depth charts by who they defend. Its alot less fluid than doing it by offense.

Oh Blazers knows Luka plays PG--but lots of people list depth charts by the position they defend. And if he's really starting Brunson it makes no sense to list him as the SF.

Is Buddy even better than THJ? I dont like it at all. Hardaway has bought in hook-line-and-sinker to the Dallas culture and proven to be a great fit. He trimmed the fat from his game last season and became the standstill 3PT sniper he always should have been (Rather than low efficiency shot creator). I would much rather keep him on a EC, and keep the young Green, than move for Buddy who offers slightly better volume at the 3 and nothing else really over THJ.

[Texas Chuck]

I believe Gobert should be their target, possibly via SnT of Porzingis. I also think Fournier gets an MLE to be there next season too.

Luka, J-Rich, Fournier, DFS, Gobert
Brunson, Burke, THJ, Green, Kleber, Powell

Why would they SnT Gobert for Porzingis when they could just sign him

They may not trade Porzingis, they may trade other pieces like Powell and Kleber and picks. The reason they trade is it allows them to add/keep THJ, J-Rich, Fournier, Boban, WCS, Hinton, Terry. They'd have to clear these guys to add Gobert in FA.

As it stands right now Dallas only has to move salary to acquire Gobert if they want to keep Richardson's cap hold. Which they should. But they can do that without moving KP or Maxi. And they definitely don't trade KP to keep THJ despite the position problems with Gobert.

I think Dallas would simply find a new home for Powell(or stretch waive him if the asset cost to move him was too high), let THJ walk and sign Gobert/re-sign Richardson and keep everyone else. Then use the room exception on a shooter.