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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1801 » by dougthonus » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:36 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:lol gathering extra draft picks is absolutely something you should do when you are rebuilding through the draft. Period.


The Bulls have 7 players on rookie deals right now and have used both their 2 way contracts in addition to that. While I wouldn't mind them getting extra draft picks, I'm not sure how you feel we should have gotten them. Context matters quite a bit, I might agree with you overall that when you are rebuilding you generally want to get more draft picks.

I don't think adding second rounders in a vacuum when you are one of the youngest teams in the league already is necessarily useful. Most second rounders suck and are complete busts with no NBA value whatsoever, and you already have half your roster dedicated to developing young players. If you disagree fair enough, but I can't really think of many teams that went with say 10 guys on rookie deals and found a bunch of great value in the second round because of it.

But we didn't do that. Which is one reason why our rebuild utterly failed.


What is the percentage of second round picks made in the last four years that would have made our rebuild a success? I'd guess that percentage is zero. As in there is not a single second round pick that would have made this rebuild a success. What is the percentage that would help us more than where we are at now? I'd say maybe that is maybe 10% of them if I wanted to be overly generous.

So yeah, if we had traded something to get an extra second round pick there's a 10% chance we'd be better off than we are now, assuming the thing we traded away had zero value to us and a 90% chance it would be irrelevant.

That aside, I don't know what you think we were going to trade to acquire more second round picks, there are certainly things I would send away for them (like Thad and possibly Sato), certainly Dunn or Val a year ago.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1802 » by fleet » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:50 pm

:cry:

Lots of turnovers so far for this guy, more or less shadowing his assists. Same with some of the other guards we were talking about from this draft. But we like his rebounding of course. Point guard is a hard position to learn. If he was available that would have been quite a decision to make. But so far, no worries about being 4th.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1803 » by MrFortune3 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:10 pm

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What the actual ****?!?!?!

I actually have an NBA body now! :lol:


I'm sure teams are lining up to trade for him now. Houston is screwed.

When did Barkley grow a beard?


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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1804 » by MrFortune3 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:13 pm

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TheStig wrote:Except for Middleton was drafted by the Pistons and Brogdon isn't on the team. Their main core outside of Giannis was all FA or trades. Their only other rotation player that they drafted is Divencenzo.

Drafting a superstar is a great start.


Yeah, I answered the mistake of labelling Middleton a Bucks draft pick after the first poster brought it up.

I didn't say Brogdon was still on the team, I said their initial core was built with those 3 players.

I don't even think Brogdon would have been in their top 3. Bledsoe was the guy who played a bigger role through their time on the Bucks and they chose to keep him over Brogdan.


They picked the cheaper guy at the time and Brogdon was less of a PG than Bledsoe even though both are combo players.
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Post#1805 » by cjbulls » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:17 pm

fleet wrote::cry:

Lots of turnovers so far for this guy, more or less shadowing his assists. Same with some of the other guards we were talking about from this draft. But we like his rebounding of course. Point guard is a hard position to learn. If he was available that would have been quite a decision to make. But so far, no worries about being 4th.


He was available for a trade up
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1806 » by TheStig » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:38 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:
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Yeah, I answered the mistake of labelling Middleton a Bucks draft pick after the first poster brought it up.

I didn't say Brogdon was still on the team, I said their initial core was built with those 3 players.

I don't even think Brogdon would have been in their top 3. Bledsoe was the guy who played a bigger role through their time on the Bucks and they chose to keep him over Brogdan.


They picked the cheaper guy at the time and Brogdon was less of a PG than Bledsoe even though both are combo players.

I mean he wanted to be there and took a small discount on an extension. Brogdan could have done the same. But Bledsoe was the more integral player on the Bucks. Brogdan was a 3 and d guy.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1807 » by MrFortune3 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:27 am

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TheStig wrote:I don't even think Brogdon would have been in their top 3. Bledsoe was the guy who played a bigger role through their time on the Bucks and they chose to keep him over Brogdan.


They picked the cheaper guy at the time and Brogdon was less of a PG than Bledsoe even though both are combo players.

I mean he wanted to be there and took a small discount on an extension. Brogdan could have done the same. But Bledsoe was the more integral player on the Bucks. Brogdan was a 3 and d guy.


I wouldn't say he was more integral. He was more of a PG and better as a defender but Brogdon was more of a crucial piece for their offense.
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Post#1808 » by BeKuK » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:50 am

What has the NBA just become......when guys like Andre Drummond are shooting from the 3point line!
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Post#1809 » by Mbrahv0528 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:13 am

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Oh, you’re right. I didn’t even realize PW put up 13. He looked so bad I never would have figured it. That’s somewhat impressive in its own right.
He didn't look bad, your basketball analysis is what's off. Good grief. Consistently have these blanket hot takes, one would think that one would evolve at some point.

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If you thought that performance was anything but bad, I can’t help you. It’s ok to say he’s a rookie and it’s early preseason and it’s just one game. All justified reasons we shouldn’t care in the grand scheme of his evaluation. But it was a bad game, unlike the first which was good.
You're just wrong sorry. He looked BETTER than advertised.

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Post#1810 » by DuckIII » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:15 am

Mbrahv0528 wrote:
cjbulls wrote:
Mbrahv0528 wrote:He didn't look bad, your basketball analysis is what's off. Good grief. Consistently have these blanket hot takes, one would think that one would evolve at some point.

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If you thought that performance was anything but bad, I can’t help you. It’s ok to say he’s a rookie and it’s early preseason and it’s just one game. All justified reasons we shouldn’t care in the grand scheme of his evaluation. But it was a bad game, unlike the first which was good.
You're just wrong sorry. He looked BETTER than advertised.

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In the second game, specifically? No he didn’t.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1811 » by Mbrahv0528 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:21 am

DuckIII wrote:
Mbrahv0528 wrote:
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If you thought that performance was anything but bad, I can’t help you. It’s ok to say he’s a rookie and it’s early preseason and it’s just one game. All justified reasons we shouldn’t care in the grand scheme of his evaluation. But it was a bad game, unlike the first which was good.
You're just wrong sorry. He looked BETTER than advertised.

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In the second game, specifically? No he didn’t.
In general. And in contrast to the people questioning or down in the pick. Dude is the real deal.

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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1812 » by MrSparkle » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:12 am

Side note: is Taj out of a job? NYK released him and then he went off-the-grid.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1813 » by BullsFTW » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:24 am

A bit early, but Suns looking nice.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1814 » by DuckIII » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:45 am

Mbrahv0528 wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
Mbrahv0528 wrote:You're just wrong sorry. He looked BETTER than advertised.

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In the second game, specifically? No he didn’t.
In general. And in contrast to the people questioning or down in the pick. Dude is the real deal.

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cjbulls’ comment was only about the second game.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1815 » by Mbrahv0528 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:49 am

DuckIII wrote:
Mbrahv0528 wrote:
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In the second game, specifically? No he didn’t.
In general. And in contrast to the people questioning or down in the pick. Dude is the real deal.

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cjbulls’ comment was only about the second game.
And I disagree. He shot bad, does not mean he played bad in my opinion.

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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1816 » by fleet » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:37 am

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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1817 » by fleet » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:38 am

cjbulls wrote:
fleet wrote::cry:

Lots of turnovers so far for this guy, more or less shadowing his assists. Same with some of the other guards we were talking about from this draft. But we like his rebounding of course. Point guard is a hard position to learn. If he was available that would have been quite a decision to make. But so far, no worries about being 4th.


He was available for a trade up

Are we done trading down?
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1818 » by fleet » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:57 am

This kid is shooting over 60 percent :o

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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1819 » by cjbulls » Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:58 am

fleet wrote:
cjbulls wrote:
fleet wrote::cry:
Lots of turnovers so far for this guy, more or less shadowing his assists. Same with some of the other guards we were talking about from this draft. But we like his rebounding of course. Point guard is a hard position to learn. If he was available that would have been quite a decision to make. But so far, no worries about being 4th.


He was available for a trade up

Are we done trading down?


Trade down looks like a great play still. Poku looks like a good prospect
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1820 » by fleet » Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:03 am

cjbulls wrote:
fleet wrote:
cjbulls wrote:
He was available for a trade up

Are we done trading down?


Trade down looks like a great play still. Poku looks like a good prospect

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