Knicks - Cavs PG

[Reign23]

We shall see what they want to do. A lot suggest they are just trying to salvage whatever trade value they can get with DSJ but who knows.

When Rivers comes back I doubt DSJ plays much if IQ proves he can handle some on ball duty.

My guess right now is.

Payton/IQ
Burks/Rivers
RJ/Knox
Randle/Obi
Noel/Mitch

Until rivers comes back you will have DSJ/Frank/Bullock potentially replacing those minutes.

No Bullocks or Frank? Interesting.

Its not what I would do (frank would be in my rotation). But they aren't going to sit Rivers or Burks is my guess. And IQ has earned minutes.

I would love to bench Payton...but I don't see that either.

agree with every word

[Reign23]

i hated the moment we signed rivers. not because of him, but that was one vet to many. as always.

[Chanel Bomber]

i hated the moment we signed rivers. not because of him, but that was one vet to many. as always.

I didn't because he's a vet who's proven he can be a rotation player on a playoff team. He knows what it takes for a team to get to that level.

The irony of having Randle and Payton on the team is not just the fact that they're stunting the development of our young players, it's that they don't even have cache! If they were vets who were playing winning basketball, then fair enough, but those guys have track record of being losing players and they bring absolutely 0 valuable experience to that locker room.

That's what makes their presence so egregious, and it's precisely why Scott Perry needs to be fired.

Austin Rivers is fine, he's been in the trenches, and he can play with the young guys.

[Reign23]

i hated the moment we signed rivers. not because of him, but that was one vet to many. as always.

I didn't because he's a vet who's proven he can be a rotation player on a playoff team. He knows what it takes for a team to get to that level.

The irony of having Randle and Payton on the team is not just the fact that they're stunting the development of our young players, it's that they don't even have cache! If they were vets who were playing winning basketball, then fair enough, but those guys have track record of being losing players and they bring absolutely 0 valuable experience to that locker room.

That's what makes their presence so egregious, and it's precisely why Scott Perry needs to be fired.

Austin Rivers is fine, he's been in the trenches, and he can play with the young guys.

rivers came because they promised him a role, for sure. by the time we signed him, we already had Payton and Burks as Guard-Vets and Frank, DSJ, Quickley.
So absolutely no use for him imo.

[mpharris36]

I didn't mind the Rivers signing at all. Its the Payton signing which was completely dumbfounding. Especially with the likelihood of RJ/Randle/ and a center who can't shoot was always going to be the starting lineup.

Rivers we actually have control of. If he plays well we can trade him for assets because of his contract. Payton is going to be playing for himself again this year. It made no sense to bring him back.

[Clyde_Style]

Can't make too much of it but that spurt was clearly Knox's best non-summer league game. And he's still young. Hopefully the light is going on but I'm not a big believer because he seems like he's just as likely to throw an airball as make it.

I think the deal with Knox is that he should only be doing a couple of things - his transition game is actually not bad and he's a threat in the open court. That little curl play down the middle was effective, and he can spot up for 3. Just have him do those things and keep it simple. And see how far it can go.

He's definitely an interesting prospect because he has a lot of tools and size.

If Knox keeps boarding and outlet passing (he did it more than once last game so it was not a fluke) like he just did and gets out on the break promptly when he's the one releasing I think it will make him a + player for the Knicks. He just has to do it consistently and over the course of each game to matter. He scored 30 points his rookie year and won rookie of the month too so consistency is what he needs to zone in on and that cuts to the heart of one of the biggest knocks on him so far which is his motor. That's a matter of focus and fitness. He's fit and looks more focused so there's hope

[pmanzano]

I didn't mind the Rivers signing at all. Its the Payton signing which was completely dumbfounding. Especially with the likelihood of RJ/Randle/ and a center who can't shoot was always going to be the starting lineup.

Rivers we actually have control of. If he plays well we can trade him for assets because of his contract. Payton is going to be playing for himself again this year. It made no sense to bring him back.

Was kinda taken aback by that one as well.. Hopefully someone can get through to Payton this year though.

[Reign23]

I didn't mind the Rivers signing at all. Its the Payton signing which was completely dumbfounding. Especially with the likelihood of RJ/Randle/ and a center who can't shoot was always going to be the starting lineup.

Rivers we actually have control of. If he plays well we can trade him for assets because of his contract. Payton is going to be playing for himself again this year. It made no sense to bring him back.

of course I prefer rivers to payton. but we already had payton... so i didn't get the rivers signing

[mpharris36]

I didn't mind the Rivers signing at all. Its the Payton signing which was completely dumbfounding. Especially with the likelihood of RJ/Randle/ and a center who can't shoot was always going to be the starting lineup.

Rivers we actually have control of. If he plays well we can trade him for assets because of his contract. Payton is going to be playing for himself again this year. It made no sense to bring him back.

Was kinda taken aback by that one as well.. Hopefully someone can get through to Payton this year though.

get through to payton? Payton has been the same player since he came into the league. Can't shoot, ok distributor, not a good defender (even if he gets steals). Puts of fluff numbers instead of actual impact. He's always been a career backup.

[Chanel Bomber]

I didn't mind the Rivers signing at all. Its the Payton signing which was completely dumbfounding. Especially with the likelihood of RJ/Randle/ and a center who can't shoot was always going to be the starting lineup.

Rivers we actually have control of. If he plays well we can trade him for assets because of his contract. Payton is going to be playing for himself again this year. It made no sense to bring him back.

of course I prefer rivers to payton. but we already had payton... so i didn't get the rivers signing

He's here beyond this season too, so - PLEASE LORD - if Payton is let go after the season is over then we have a solid vet in the backcourt who can sort of shoot, sort of playmake, sort of defend but who's undoubtedly tough and experienced.

[mpharris36]

I didn't mind the Rivers signing at all. Its the Payton signing which was completely dumbfounding. Especially with the likelihood of RJ/Randle/ and a center who can't shoot was always going to be the starting lineup.

Rivers we actually have control of. If he plays well we can trade him for assets because of his contract. Payton is going to be playing for himself again this year. It made no sense to bring him back.

of course I prefer rivers to payton. but we already had payton... so i didn't get the rivers signing

He's here beyond this season too, so - PLEASE LORD - if Payton is let go after the season is over then we have a solid vet in the backcourt who can sort of shoot, sort of playmake, sort of defend but who's undoubtedly tough and experienced.

i mean rivers is still a bum...but he more palatable to watch then Payton.

[Chanel Bomber]

I didn't mind the Rivers signing at all. Its the Payton signing which was completely dumbfounding. Especially with the likelihood of RJ/Randle/ and a center who can't shoot was always going to be the starting lineup.

Rivers we actually have control of. If he plays well we can trade him for assets because of his contract. Payton is going to be playing for himself again this year. It made no sense to bring him back.

Was kinda taken aback by that one as well.. Hopefully someone can get through to Payton this year though.

get through to payton? Payton has been the same player since he came into the league. Can't shoot, ok distributor, not a good defender (even if he gets steals). Puts of fluff numbers instead of actual impact. He's always been a career backup.

I'm not sure he's even a back-up on a playoff team. He's a third string PG on a winning team imo. I know I might come off as super petty when it comes to Payton, but I really don't think he'd be getting playing time on a playoff team, expect maybe on a 7th or 8th seed.

[Reign23]

of course I prefer rivers to payton. but we already had payton... so i didn't get the rivers signing

He's here beyond this season too, so - PLEASE LORD - if Payton is let go after the season is over then we have a solid vet in the backcourt who can sort of shoot, sort of playmake, sort of defend but who's undoubtedly tough and experienced.

i mean rivers is still a bum...but he more palatable to watch then Payton.

just one of the two and burks. then all the other guard minutes would have gone to Frank/Quickley/DSJ. Would be nice..

[The Lamma]

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[The Lamma]

At least we're going to have us some damn highlights this year #PlayTheKids

[CharlesOakley]

I'm going to guess that Brazdeikis is going to get a few minutes tonight. The team sent him to be interviewed. Bullock is out, Knox might start and Brazzers gets the minutes off the bench?

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knox. jesus.

[K_ick_God]

If Knox bumped up to even like 10 PPG on decent efficiency and was an open court threat who could hit 3's and make some stuff happen, he even might get paid a considerable amount.

[Clyde_Style]

I'm going to guess that Brazdeikis is going to get a few minutes tonight. The team sent him to be interviewed. Bullock is out, Knox might start and Brazzers gets the minutes off the bench?

[Clyde_Style]

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knox. jesus.

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