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GBBucks · Post #1061 » by **GBBucks** » Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:53 pm

machu46 wrote:
emunney wrote:lol wtf is BORG

It's Hollinger's new metric, which is a metric of metrics.

Basically, it's a combination of PIPM, RAPTOR (538's metric), and PER.

Otherwise known as Torturing Numbers and claiming it's statistical analysis/Science.

Michael Crichton (yes, that Michael Crichton) did a piece on this phenomenon. Where the more complex scientific and mathematical models are, the more people believe them, but in reality, the more horsesh** they are.

"Aliens Cause Global Warming"

https://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/Crichton2003.pdf?mod=article_inline

raferfenix · Post #1062 » by **raferfenix** » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:41 pm

Is Ersan retiring or where’s he at?

Not sure if / when we’d legally be able to bring him back but every time we thought we were done with him before he kept pulling us back in.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1063 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:45 pm

raferfenix wrote:Is Ersan retiring or where’s he at?

Not sure if / when we’d legally be able to bring him back but every time we thought we were done with him before he kept pulling us back in.

it wouldnt surprise me if we have some deal worked out with him to stay in shape and join us midseason if hes living here still. i think we have enough money left for a guy to pick up at the deadline and i could see us making a promise

MoreTrife · Post #1064 » by **MoreTrife** » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:15 pm

Thought this was an interesting in depth article on Buck's jersey patches (Harley Davidson patch deal expired) and Giannis's effect on new sponsorship deal.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/18/milwaukee-bucks-credit-giannis-effect-for-uptick-in-business.html

higharc · Post #1065 » by **higharc** » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:21 pm

This is Bud's make or bust year.
A playoff team that has performances of Boston series Midds, Portland series Jrue and regular season Giannis loses from no one.
These players have it in them. They just need to be coached right. I have faith. I think Bud knows this. It remains to be seen if he actually can do it.

thonnisbeastley · Post #1066 » by **thonnisbeastley** » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:33 pm

higharc wrote:This is Bud's make or bust year.
A playoff team that has performances of Boston series Midds, Portland series Jrue and regular season Giannis loses from no one.
These players have it in them. They just need to be coached right. I have faith. I think Bud knows this. It remains to be seen if he actually can do it.

He will be fired if we go into the post season at full strength and don't at least reach the finals. And he should be.

giannis and 1 · Post #1067 » by **giannis and 1** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:30 am

emunney wrote:Very few things funnier than an analytics-heavy writer throwing some recently created Big Metric into his articles like it's been around forever.

Anyway, I'm glad we didn't trade for Bogdanovic due to his subpar BORG, and also his middling SCHLONK rating. Please don't get me started on his hard/soft CORN splits.

Middling Schlonk? :wavefinger:

giannis and 1 · Post #1068 » by **giannis and 1** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:44 am

If we don't make the Finals, both Bud and Horst should be fired out of a cannon.

Actually... if we have a slow start to the season, and are losing games because of things that have caused us problems in the playoffs like a stagnant offense with no direction, and letting the other team fire away nonstop 3's, Bud should be fired at that point.

emunney · Post #1069 » by **emunney** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:22 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
emunney wrote:Very few things funnier than an analytics-heavy writer throwing some recently created Big Metric into his articles like it's been around forever.

Anyway, I'm glad we didn't trade for Bogdanovic due to his subpar BORG, and also his middling SCHLONK rating. Please don't get me started on his hard/soft CORN splits.

Middling Schlonk?

Another troglodyte who refuses to step into the future and embrace SCHLONK

giannis and 1 · Post #1070 » by **giannis and 1** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:28 am

emunney wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:
emunney wrote:Very few things funnier than an analytics-heavy writer throwing some recently created Big Metric into his articles like it's been around forever.

Anyway, I'm glad we didn't trade for Bogdanovic due to his subpar BORG, and also his middling SCHLONK rating. Please don't get me started on his hard/soft CORN splits.

Middling Schlonk?

Another troglodyte who refuses to step into the future and embrace SCHLONK

Well, times are changing (for the better) and I don't have any problems with people that do, but I can't see myself ever embracing a SCHLONK (why is it capitalised)

Gianstoppable · Post #1071 » by **Gianstoppable** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:46 am

I really want Oladipo. I think if we add him in a possible 3 way trade with Brook and DDV going out+ we are easy favorites. Portis can play the 4 and maybe we can get a guy as a buyout to play the 4 and 5 backup.

Jrue
Dipo
Midds
Portis
Giannis

Roll with G at the 5, force him to work on his post game and stay within himself.

LittleRooster · Post #1072 » by **LittleRooster** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:02 am

emunney wrote:lol wtf is BORG

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giannis and 1 · Post #1073 » by **giannis and 1** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:54 am

Gianstoppable wrote:I really want Oladipo. I think if we add him in a possible 3 way trade with Brook and DDV going out+ we are easy favorites. Portis can play the 4 and maybe we can get a guy as a buyout to play the 4 and 5 backup.

Jrue
Dipo
Midds
Portis
Giannis

Roll with G at the 5, force him to work on his post game and stay within himself.

Don't think he's a fit, that roster would have a lot of spacing issues, and Oladipo is too ball dominant to be a fit with Giannis if we already have Jrue.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #1074 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:18 am

What is the buy-out market like this year? Feel we would be top candidates with a guaranteed rotational spot and a top-heavy roster.

SupremeHustle · Post #1075 » by **SupremeHustle** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:10 pm

This will not get it done:

Read on Twitter

slos · Post #1076 » by **slos** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 3:46 pm

giannis and 1 wrote:
Gianstoppable wrote:I really want Oladipo. I think if we add him in a possible 3 way trade with Brook and DDV going out+ we are easy favorites. Portis can play the 4 and maybe we can get a guy as a buyout to play the 4 and 5 backup.

Jrue
Dipo
Midds
Portis
Giannis

Roll with G at the 5, force him to work on his post game and stay within himself.

Don't think he's a fit, that roster would have a lot of spacing issues, and Oladipo is too ball dominant to be a fit with Giannis if we already have Jrue.

You don't lose shooting going from DDV/Brook to Dipo/Portis in your starting 5.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1077 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:25 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:I really want Oladipo. I think if we add him in a possible 3 way trade with Brook and DDV going out+ we are easy favorites. Portis can play the 4 and maybe we can get a guy as a buyout to play the 4 and 5 backup.

Jrue
Dipo
Midds
Portis
Giannis

Roll with G at the 5, force him to work on his post game and stay within himself.

We're hard capped, and you're well short of s legal deal. I also don't like it because it kills our depth.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1078 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:29 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:This will not get it done:

Read on Twitter

Do we really think these numbers are indicative of anything? I don't, pretty sure Khris will still be one of the best shooters on the planet, and the others will follow suit.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1079 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:37 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:What is the buy-out market like this year? Feel we would be top candidates with a guaranteed rotational spot and a top-heavy roster.

i need to know an update of what were even capable of with our gauranteed contracts and being hardcapped. can we even dip into the buyout crowd without moving a guy like wilson first?

ShootingtheJ · Post #1080 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:41 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:What is the buy-out market like this year? Feel we would be top candidates with a guaranteed rotational spot and a top-heavy roster.

i need to know an update of what were even capable of with our gauranteed contracts and being hardcapped. can we even dip into the buyout crowd without moving a guy like wilson first?

Yes