Lakers Preseason Thread: Gm 4 vs Suns: 12/18 7:30pm PST

BEazy · Post #161 » by **BEazy** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:10 am

I know it's early, but I think we need to trade Kuzma for some size.

EArl · Post #162 » by **EArl** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:16 am

I need to see a few regular season games before we can say whether our size could be an issue. Way too early guys.

Slink · Post #163 » by **Slink** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:20 am

Pelinka should have kept either Howard or Cousins.

Beethoven · Post #164 » by **Beethoven** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:21 am

Dead tired tonite. Gotta go lay in bed. Not worth staying up watching this. Yawn.

EArl · Post #165 » by **EArl** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:24 am

THT has definitely earned some consistent minutes this season.

BEazy · Post #166 » by **BEazy** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:45 am

I hope these guys don't come out like this against the Flippers and Mavs...

lazybatman · Post #167 » by **lazybatman** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:13 am

Bron 7 TOs, while Booker's burnt Kuz & KCP on the other end.

He's a guy Lakers should be looking to swoop for. Sooo good.

Slink · Post #168 » by **Slink** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:18 am

Good comeback to cut it to single digits.

EArl · Post #169 » by **EArl** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:19 am

AD hasn't missed a beat.

BEazy · Post #170 » by **BEazy** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:21 am

Man AD is so good.

EArl · Post #171 » by **EArl** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:31 am

Thats a Kobe stepback by AD.

lazybatman · Post #172 » by **lazybatman** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:31 am

AD - 6/7 3s. 35 pts in 30 mins.

EArl · Post #173 » by **EArl** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:41 am

lazybatman wrote:AD - 6/7 3s. 35 pts in 30 mins.

That one miss had to be an airball :lol:

EArl · Post #174 » by **EArl** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:48 am

I like this lineup. Gives us spacing and speed. Could even swap out THT with Schroeder.

tugs · Post #175 » by **tugs** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:54 am

Does it seem like Bron and AD played HORSE or is it just me?

EArl · Post #176 » by **EArl** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:05 am

4-0. I'll take it.

lazybatman · Post #177 » by **lazybatman** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:25 am

LAKESHOW wrote:Okay, I'll say it. Where does Matthew's fit? Its early. So no judgments. But that was not a good outing.

Think Alex Caruso mate.. his presence will grow, and you'll want him to be in there at the end of those close games more than the other shiny pieces. Extremely intelligent vet and a great defender.

Post #178 » by **Slava** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:11 am

I really like Jevon Carter on Phoenix. Would be a great fit at PG for this Lakers team.

fteru6uhre54ew · Post #179 » by **fteru6uhre54ew** » Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:25 am

Tht in the starting lineup seems more and more normal. Schröder and Matthews fits better together and Kuz is too big and the SF doesn't fit to well with him a rotation player mixing the SF and PF of the bench fit much better with him.

tamaraw08 · Post #180 » by **tamaraw08** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:21 pm

lazybatman wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:

Don't bring up him being played as a PF for his poor ball handling bro. It's not the damn 90s. If he wants to dribble, he's gotta take care of the ball - PERIOD!

The point I'm making is that shouldn't he be expected to be working on those traits(ball handling, strength, shooting, decision making and defensive technique) improving in the off season and during the season. I'm questioning his work ethic, his drive to be better, to be great? He just hasn't improved one bit on those fatal flaws in his game. Compare him to a way less skilled Caruso and THT and their trajectory of growth during the same time. I'm absolutely clamoring for Caruso to get starter minutes and THT to get at least 15-18 mins/game. Kuz, on the other hand, has regressed from a player who showed a lot of offensive potential, to a borderline liability who wants a big payday that he doesn't deserve.

Lebron & Kobe didn't become great by posing for photos.. they are probably two of the most hard working players in any sport. No short cuts.

I think Vogel just might start him as a guard with Schroeder this year, if Wes doesn't impress enough. They should wanna give him as many minutes as possible for multiple reasons -
- to find out more about him before they pay him at the end of the season, since he sounds pretty content to not re-sign on the terms offered to him, based on his interviews in the past week
- to simply give him more opportunity to prove himself, since a long 3-D wing is theee most rare and precious commodity in the NBA today. It is in the Lakers' interest to see him develop into an efficient 15-17 ppg dude, who can defend well. He will rightfully command a 18-20m/Y contract that he thinks he already deserves.
- Worst case and most likely scenario - inflate his numbers / value for a possible trade down the line, cos we don't wanna pay him.

not the 90's? ok then give me a list of natural PF's who improved on their handles the past 15 years or so? Kevin Love? Nance Jr?Markkanen? who? even the old vet SGs like KCP, Danny Green don't have great handles.
You mentioned Lebron and Kobe don't pose for photos, ok, NOBODY can measure up to them, I just wonder how you felt about Shaq gaining weight, making movies and rap albums while failing to improve on his FT shooting. And btw, how sure are you that he didn't work on his game? Sure he'll make the dumb pass and fail to rotate occasionally but the guy has been spotting open teammates and has improved on his defensive stance as was showed by the video I shared. The only glaring weakness right now is his consistency in 3pt shooting. Fatal flaw? really? you really think Vogel would put up with that? He put Cook and Daniels in his dog house, which could have displayed that Rob was a fool in signing them, which shows, the would make decisions on what's best for the team.