RealGM Top 25 2018-2020
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RealGM Top 25 2018-2020
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RealGM Top 25 2018-2020
This is the data from the past three years' Top 25 rankings done on the RealGM General Board.
At the end of the day, it's not about wins and losses. Teamwork, fair play, and good sportsmanship make champions of us all.
Go arbitrary assortment of athletes! Beat the other arbitrary assortment of athletes or my mood will suffer!
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Really well done! Interesting to see.
Westbrook has taken the biggest drop of all relatively healthy players.
Westbrook has taken the biggest drop of all relatively healthy players.
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Russell Westbrook fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all, to where 7 other point guards play better then yours.
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Really interesting plot.
Though I am still seeing too strong of a correlation between getting a championship and the player's ranking, 2019 being its best example. I can't agree with giving someone the crown of being the best by having to sit out 20 games.
Though I am still seeing too strong of a correlation between getting a championship and the player's ranking, 2019 being its best example. I can't agree with giving someone the crown of being the best by having to sit out 20 games.
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CURRENT CUMULATIVE RANKINGS 2018-2020
#1 - LeBron James - 1.667
#2 - Kawhi Leonard - 3.667 (#1)
#3 - Giannis Antetokounmpo - 3.667 (#2)
#4 - Stephen Curry - 4.667
#5 - Anthony Davis - 5.000
#6 - James Harden - 5.333
#7 - Nikola Jokic - 9.000
#8 - Joel Embiid - 10.667 (#8)
#9 - Jimmy Butler - 10.667 (#10)
#10 - Damian Lillard - 11.667
#11 - Kevin Durant - 12.333
#12 - Paul George - 14.333
#13 - Russell Westbrook - 15.333
#14 - Rudy Gobert - 16.000
#15 - Luka Doncic - 16.333 (#3)
#16 - Chris Paul - 16.333 (#9)
#17 - Karl-Anthony Towns - 19.000 (#14)
#18 - Kyrie Irving - 19.000 (#16)
#19 - Draymond Green - 19.333
#20 - Bradley Beal - 20.333
#21 - Ben Simmons - 21.000
#22 - Jayson Tatum - 21.333 (#12)
#23 - Kyle Lowry - 21.333 (#20)
#24 - Victor Oladipo - 21.667
#25 - Devin Booker - 22.000
#26 - Blake Griffin - 23.000
#27 - Donovan Mitchell - 23.333
#28 - Kemba Walker - 23.667
#29 - Jrue Holiday - 24.333 (2019)
#30 - Klay Thompson - 24.333 (2018)
#31 - Bam Adebayo - 24.667
#32 - Jamal Murray - 25.000 (2020)
#33 - Pascal Siakam - 25.000 (2019)
#34 - John Wall - 25.000 (2018)
#35 - Al Horford - 25.333
#36 - LaMarcus Aldridge - 25.667
*For any season in which a player did not appear in the top 25, a score of 26 was given
**Ties were decided first by highest ranked appearance and second by whose appearance was most recent
#1 - LeBron James - 1.667
#2 - Kawhi Leonard - 3.667 (#1)
#3 - Giannis Antetokounmpo - 3.667 (#2)
#4 - Stephen Curry - 4.667
#5 - Anthony Davis - 5.000
#6 - James Harden - 5.333
#7 - Nikola Jokic - 9.000
#8 - Joel Embiid - 10.667 (#8)
#9 - Jimmy Butler - 10.667 (#10)
#10 - Damian Lillard - 11.667
#11 - Kevin Durant - 12.333
#12 - Paul George - 14.333
#13 - Russell Westbrook - 15.333
#14 - Rudy Gobert - 16.000
#15 - Luka Doncic - 16.333 (#3)
#16 - Chris Paul - 16.333 (#9)
#17 - Karl-Anthony Towns - 19.000 (#14)
#18 - Kyrie Irving - 19.000 (#16)
#19 - Draymond Green - 19.333
#20 - Bradley Beal - 20.333
#21 - Ben Simmons - 21.000
#22 - Jayson Tatum - 21.333 (#12)
#23 - Kyle Lowry - 21.333 (#20)
#24 - Victor Oladipo - 21.667
#25 - Devin Booker - 22.000
#26 - Blake Griffin - 23.000
#27 - Donovan Mitchell - 23.333
#28 - Kemba Walker - 23.667
#29 - Jrue Holiday - 24.333 (2019)
#30 - Klay Thompson - 24.333 (2018)
#31 - Bam Adebayo - 24.667
#32 - Jamal Murray - 25.000 (2020)
#33 - Pascal Siakam - 25.000 (2019)
#34 - John Wall - 25.000 (2018)
#35 - Al Horford - 25.333
#36 - LaMarcus Aldridge - 25.667
*For any season in which a player did not appear in the top 25, a score of 26 was given
**Ties were decided first by highest ranked appearance and second by whose appearance was most recent
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Great post.
It's indefensible that Jokic who played great last season got ranked lower than previous. And Booker is extremely overrated around here.
It's indefensible that Jokic who played great last season got ranked lower than previous. And Booker is extremely overrated around here.
Young Stapler wrote:Completely off topic but SUPERVILLAIN got a crazy post/And1 ratio O_O
Just an observation. Carry on
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Thanks so much for hosting this.
And also for the year to year comparison.
Major props
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Thank you for the appreciation. It was oddly therapeutic to make.
At the end of the day, it's not about wins and losses. Teamwork, fair play, and good sportsmanship make champions of us all.
Go arbitrary assortment of athletes! Beat the other arbitrary assortment of athletes or my mood will suffer!
Go arbitrary assortment of athletes! Beat the other arbitrary assortment of athletes or my mood will suffer!
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Really great work! Thanks for running this!
One question:
I appreciate why you chose the method, but can you rank Luka like that if he wasn’t in the league in three years ago.
One question:
Metallikid wrote:
*For any season in which a player did not appear in the top 25, a score of 26 was given
**Ties were decided first by highest ranked appearance and second by whose appearance was most recent
Luka Doncic (26/20/3) - 16.333
I appreciate why you chose the method, but can you rank Luka like that if he wasn’t in the league in three years ago.
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TheSheriff wrote:Really great work! Thanks for running this!
One question:Metallikid wrote:
*For any season in which a player did not appear in the top 25, a score of 26 was given
**Ties were decided first by highest ranked appearance and second by whose appearance was most recent
Luka Doncic (26/20/3) - 16.333
I appreciate why you chose the method, but can you rank Luka like that if he wasn’t in the league in three years ago.
I felt that was the only fair way of doing it so that it isn't handicapped too much towards players who hadn't been in every poll because they are up and coming.
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What's with Durant in 2019? Why is he not in the top 25? WTF RealGM?
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Lost92Bricks wrote:What's with Durant in 2019? Why is he not in the top 25? WTF RealGM?
Ya strange, then top 9 in 2020 where he didn't play 1 game
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hyper316 wrote:Lost92Bricks wrote:What's with Durant in 2019? Why is he not in the top 25? WTF RealGM?
Ya strange, then top 9 in 2020 where he didn't play 1 game
Polls happened before the beginning of each season so the year shown is the year in which the poll was taken, but the season would be the one that started in that year so 2018 = 2018-2019 season, etc.
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hyper316 wrote:Lost92Bricks wrote:What's with Durant in 2019? Why is he not in the top 25? WTF RealGM?
Ya strange, then top 9 in 2020 where he didn't play 1 game
I'm not mindful of the timing of ElectricMayhem's polls, but maybe he's been running the polls at the end of each season. People would've ranked Durant in the 2019 poll based on their expectation that he wasn't going to play in '20.
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Yo do you actually live in Osaka? What a great city. Glad I visited before the virus. Thanks for this
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hyper316 wrote:Lost92Bricks wrote:What's with Durant in 2019? Why is he not in the top 25? WTF RealGM?
Ya strange, then top 9 in 2020 where he didn't play 1 game
When everyone voted, we knew Durant was gonna miss the season. So it was a ranking with a caveat.
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Metallikid wrote:CURRENT CUMULATIVE RANKINGS 2018-2020
#1 - LeBron James - 1.667
#2 - Kawhi Leonard - 3.667 (#1)
#3 - Giannis Antetokounmpo - 3.667 (#2)
#4 - Stephen Curry - 4.667
#5 - Anthony Davis - 5.000
#6 - James Harden - 5.333
#7 - Nikola Jokic - 9.000
#8 - Joel Embiid - 10.667 (#8)
#9 - Jimmy Butler - 10.667 (#10)
#10 - Damian Lillard - 11.667
#11 - Kevin Durant - 12.333
#12 - Paul George - 14.333
#13 - Russell Westbrook - 15.333
#14 - Rudy Gobert - 16.000
#15 - Luka Doncic - 16.333 (#3)
#16 - Chris Paul - 16.333 (#9)
#17 - Karl-Anthony Towns - 19.000 (#14)
#18 - Kyrie Irving - 19.000 (#16)
#19 - Draymond Green - 19.333
#20 - Bradley Beal - 20.333
#21 - Ben Simmons - 21.000
#22 - Jayson Tatum - 21.333 (#12)
#23 - Kyle Lowry - 21.333 (#20)
#24 - Victor Oladipo - 21.667
#25 - Devin Booker - 22.000
#26 - Blake Griffin - 23.000
#27 - Donovan Mitchell - 23.333
#28 - Kemba Walker - 23.667
#29 - Jrue Holiday - 24.333 (2019)
#30 - Klay Thompson - 24.333 (2018)
#31 - Bam Adebayo - 24.667
#32 - Jamal Murray - 25.000 (2020)
#33 - Pascal Siakam - 25.000 (2019)
#34 - John Wall - 25.000 (2018)
#35 - Al Horford - 25.333
#36 - LaMarcus Aldridge - 25.667
*For any season in which a player did not appear in the top 25, a score of 26 was given
**Ties were decided first by highest ranked appearance and second by whose appearance was most recentSpoiler:
3-year RAPM with players removed for not meeting minimum game requirements:
1 Giannis Antetokounmpo
2 Jrue Holiday
3 Stephen Curry
4 LeBron James
5 Joel Embiid
6 James Harden
7 Nikola Jokic
8 Chris Paul
9 Damian Lillard
10 Karl-Anthony Towns
11 Jimmy Butler
12 Kyle Lowry
13 Kevin Durant
14 Kawhi Leonard
15 Paul George
16 Kemba Walker
17 Jayson Tatum
18 LaMarcus Aldridge
19 Rudy Gobert
20 Robert Covington
21 Patrick Beverley
22 Nikola Vucevic
23 Hassan Whiteside
24 Joe Ingles
25 Bradley Beal
26 Mike Conley
27 Anthony Davis
28 Danny Green
29 Khris Middleton
30 Paul Millsap
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zimpy27 wrote:Metallikid wrote:CURRENT CUMULATIVE RANKINGS 2018-2020
#1 - LeBron James - 1.667
#2 - Kawhi Leonard - 3.667 (#1)
#3 - Giannis Antetokounmpo - 3.667 (#2)
#4 - Stephen Curry - 4.667
#5 - Anthony Davis - 5.000
#6 - James Harden - 5.333
#7 - Nikola Jokic - 9.000
#8 - Joel Embiid - 10.667 (#8)
#9 - Jimmy Butler - 10.667 (#10)
#10 - Damian Lillard - 11.667
#11 - Kevin Durant - 12.333
#12 - Paul George - 14.333
#13 - Russell Westbrook - 15.333
#14 - Rudy Gobert - 16.000
#15 - Luka Doncic - 16.333 (#3)
#16 - Chris Paul - 16.333 (#9)
#17 - Karl-Anthony Towns - 19.000 (#14)
#18 - Kyrie Irving - 19.000 (#16)
#19 - Draymond Green - 19.333
#20 - Bradley Beal - 20.333
#21 - Ben Simmons - 21.000
#22 - Jayson Tatum - 21.333 (#12)
#23 - Kyle Lowry - 21.333 (#20)
#24 - Victor Oladipo - 21.667
#25 - Devin Booker - 22.000
#26 - Blake Griffin - 23.000
#27 - Donovan Mitchell - 23.333
#28 - Kemba Walker - 23.667
#29 - Jrue Holiday - 24.333 (2019)
#30 - Klay Thompson - 24.333 (2018)
#31 - Bam Adebayo - 24.667
#32 - Jamal Murray - 25.000 (2020)
#33 - Pascal Siakam - 25.000 (2019)
#34 - John Wall - 25.000 (2018)
#35 - Al Horford - 25.333
#36 - LaMarcus Aldridge - 25.667
*For any season in which a player did not appear in the top 25, a score of 26 was given
**Ties were decided first by highest ranked appearance and second by whose appearance was most recentSpoiler:
3-year RAPM with players removed for not meeting minimum game requirements:
1 Giannis Antetokounmpo
2 Jrue Holiday
3 Stephen Curry
4 LeBron James
5 Joel Embiid
6 James Harden
7 Nikola Jokic
8 Chris Paul
9 Damian Lillard
10 Karl-Anthony Towns
11 Jimmy Butler
12 Kyle Lowry
13 Kevin Durant
14 Kawhi Leonard
15 Paul George
16 Kemba Walker
17 Jayson Tatum
18 LaMarcus Aldridge
19 Rudy Gobert
20 Robert Covington
21 Patrick Beverley
22 Nikola Vucevic
23 Hassan Whiteside
24 Joe Ingles
25 Bradley Beal
26 Mike Conley
27 Anthony Davis
28 Danny Green
29 Khris Middleton
30 Paul Millsap
Source?
The biggest surprise on your list to me has to be LaMarcus Aldridge. People forget how effective he has still been the last few seasons and he's old now, he was drafted in 2006.
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Metallikid wrote:Spoiler:
Source?
The biggest surprise on your list to me has to be LaMarcus Aldridge. People forget how effective he has still been the last few seasons and he's old now, he was drafted in 2006.
http://nbashotcharts.com/rapm3?id=-2120291009
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Young Stapler wrote:Yo do you actually live in Osaka? What a great city. Glad I visited before the virus. Thanks for this
I live in the suburbs, but I drive through Osaka to get to work. It's a great food city and I can't wait to be able to go to restaurants again. Kyoto's got my heart, though.
At the end of the day, it's not about wins and losses. Teamwork, fair play, and good sportsmanship make champions of us all.
Go arbitrary assortment of athletes! Beat the other arbitrary assortment of athletes or my mood will suffer!
Go arbitrary assortment of athletes! Beat the other arbitrary assortment of athletes or my mood will suffer!