NBA Trade Thread #2

[sco]

Utah Jazz center Rudy Gobert has agreed to a five-year, $205M extension,
@ESPN_MacMahon
reports. Jazz’s two cornerstones — Gobert and Donovan Mitchell — are now under contract on long term deals.

Wow, what was his regular max? $40M for Gobert feels like a big overpay, but the opportunity cost of losing him might have been higher.

[cjbulls]

Utah Jazz center Rudy Gobert has agreed to a five-year, $205M extension,
@ESPN_MacMahon
reports. Jazz’s two cornerstones — Gobert and Donovan Mitchell — are now under contract on long term deals.

And another domino falls. That Lauri contract keeps getting bigger and bigger.

[sco]

Utah Jazz center Rudy Gobert has agreed to a five-year, $205M extension,
@ESPN_MacMahon
reports. Jazz’s two cornerstones — Gobert and Donovan Mitchell — are now under contract on long term deals.

And another domino falls. That Lauri contract keeps getting bigger and bigger.

Gobert vs. Lauri comparison is like comparing apples and 3 day old fish.

[VolumePoster]

The best thing about the 2021 plan, is that it segues seamlessly into the 2022 and 2023 plans.

[cjbulls]

Utah Jazz center Rudy Gobert has agreed to a five-year, $205M extension,
@ESPN_MacMahon
reports. Jazz’s two cornerstones — Gobert and Donovan Mitchell — are now under contract on long term deals.

And another domino falls. That Lauri contract keeps getting bigger and bigger.

Gobert vs. Lauri comparison is like comparing apples and 3 day old fish.

It isn't about the comparison. It's about the league cap dollars available to players available.

[erasmusmrr]

What should they've done? Let him walk for nothing? Maybe consider a trade with 4-5 firsts back, if anyone would do that? Free agents don't normally go to Utah. I agree that you don't give 200M just because, but...He is 28, dominant defensively...The only option would've been to trade him for best deal possible.

[samwana]

So we now have to find our own gems, somewhere somehow.

I'm not impressed with what I've seen from our guys in preseason. The next best option is next draft?

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[Dez]

And another domino falls. That Lauri contract keeps getting bigger and bigger.

Gobert vs. Lauri comparison is like comparing apples and 3 day old fish.

It isn't about the comparison. It's about the league cap dollars available to players available.

Gobert is a perennial DPOY candidate, Lauri is Lauri.

This will have no bearing on what Lauri gets paid.

[cjbulls]

Gobert vs. Lauri comparison is like comparing apples and 3 day old fish.

It isn't about the comparison. It's about the league cap dollars available to players available.

Gobert is a perennial DPOY candidate, Lauri is Lauri.

This will have no bearing on what Lauri gets paid.

You have to understand nba finances. Salaries are a direct reflection of overall league cap space. A team set not to have any cap space just signed a max player. So now the same league cap space is available but with one less free agent that would have taken $35M of it. Look at the “cap spike year” for a more extreme example

[MisterRoy]

Let me propose...

Lauri, OPJ and Felicio to Detroit for Griffin and Rose.

We aren't going to be competing for a chip or signing some great superstar for the next few years so money isn't really the issue. We give Detroit a salary break since Griffin will most likely opt-in to his option next season. We bring Rose home and make the Bulls interesting.

A starting 5 of Coby > Zach > PWill > Blake > Wendel isn't too bad. Rose as sixth man.


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[mack2354]

Let me propose...

Lauri, OPJ and Felicio to Detroit for Griffin and Rose.

We aren't going to be competing for a chip or signing some great superstar for the next few years so money isn't really the issue. We give Detroit a salary break since Griffin will most likely opt-in to his option next season. We bring Rose home and make the Bulls interesting.

A starting 5 of Coby > Zach > PWill > Blake > Wendel isn't too bad. Rose as sixth man.


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I'm all for it. Rose is a very controversial figure though. Some love him and some hate him. You'll find a group of fans that are very adamant about not ever seeing Rose in a Bulls uniform again but they'd be fine with another guard of a similar caliber being signed. I think this trade is great for us being that all of the big names we were hoping to get in Free Agency have signed extentions so having Blake's salary shouldn't matter. We win on talent so it should be a no brainer for us.

[weneeda2guard]

Let me propose...

Lauri, OPJ and Felicio to Detroit for Griffin and Rose.

We aren't going to be competing for a chip or signing some great superstar for the next few years so money isn't really the issue. We give Detroit a salary break since Griffin will most likely opt-in to his option next season. We bring Rose home and make the Bulls interesting.

A starting 5 of Coby > Zach > PWill > Blake > Wendel isn't too bad. Rose as sixth man.


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If the Pistons begin on a rough note I can see them doing a deal like this

I was originally on the cap flexibility build next year train but clearly due to the pandemic, nba unsure when things will normalize and franchises losing money putting players in a position to take deals now rather than play the open market and secure themselves, unless we all in on kawhi which I don't see as he wants to be in Cali, trading for a star on the move might be the way to go.

Blake is not a superstar but he is still a all star talent and not bad as a 3rd option behind coby and lavine and much better than whatever Carter jr or lauri is or will be. I can def get behind this deal. I like this course more than paying lauri.

[Dez]

It isn't about the comparison. It's about the league cap dollars available to players available.

Gobert is a perennial DPOY candidate, Lauri is Lauri.

This will have no bearing on what Lauri gets paid.

You have to understand nba finances. Salaries are a direct reflection of overall league cap space. A team set not to have any cap space just signed a max player. So now the same league cap space is available but with one less free agent that would have taken $35M of it. Look at the “cap spike year” for a more extreme example

Teams aren't going throw money out at players that haven't proven anything in the current financial climate.

[cjbulls]

Gobert is a perennial DPOY candidate, Lauri is Lauri.

This will have no bearing on what Lauri gets paid.

You have to understand nba finances. Salaries are a direct reflection of overall league cap space. A team set not to have any cap space just signed a max player. So now the same league cap space is available but with one less free agent that would have taken $35M of it. Look at the “cap spike year” for a more extreme example

Teams aren't going throw money out at players that haven't proven anything in the current financial climate.

1. They have to hit the salary floor. Spending less doesn’t matter because they have to pay the difference to their players anyways.
2. They aren’t playing that actual amount. The CBA only pays the full amount where revenue hits a certain threshold. So the next few years guys are getting paid some 20% less than the listed amount to make up for last year and this year.

[WYO]

Gobert is a perennial DPOY candidate, Lauri is Lauri.

This will have no bearing on what Lauri gets paid.

You have to understand nba finances. Salaries are a direct reflection of overall league cap space. A team set not to have any cap space just signed a max player. So now the same league cap space is available but with one less free agent that would have taken $35M of it. Look at the “cap spike year” for a more extreme example

Teams aren't going throw money out at players that haven't proven anything in the current financial climate.

What world do you live in? Teams do it every year. Most of the teams in the NBA have clueless ownership and front offices. Guys like Gordon Hayward get paid because teams are stupid. Gobert got 40 million per year because teams are stupid. Someone will offer Lauri more than he's worth because they suck and hope he will somehow take a leap after being mediocre his entire career. The Bulls will have to offer a bad contract or lose him for nothing.

The point of the post you replied to is that there will be one less big name free agent on the market next off-season while all the remaining teams will have the same amount of cap space. That means more competition for the remaining players in free agency and bigger contracts due to more bidders. These extensions are bad for the Bulls because they will have to pay more to keep a mediocre player around and hope he reaches his potential.

[DroseReturnChi]

Gobert is a perennial DPOY candidate, Lauri is Lauri.

This will have no bearing on what Lauri gets paid.

You have to understand nba finances. Salaries are a direct reflection of overall league cap space. A team set not to have any cap space just signed a max player. So now the same league cap space is available but with one less free agent that would have taken $35M of it. Look at the “cap spike year” for a more extreme example

Teams aren't going throw money out at players that haven't proven anything in the current financial climate.

If Gobert is worth 40, Lauri is worth half based on potential alone.

[erasmusmrr]

Lauri should prob be traded for a 21 first.

[Dez]

You have to understand nba finances. Salaries are a direct reflection of overall league cap space. A team set not to have any cap space just signed a max player. So now the same league cap space is available but with one less free agent that would have taken $35M of it. Look at the “cap spike year” for a more extreme example

Teams aren't going throw money out at players that haven't proven anything in the current financial climate.

What world do you live in? Teams do it every year. Most of the teams in the NBA have clueless ownership and front offices. Guys like Gordon Hayward get paid because teams are stupid. Gobert got 40 million per year because teams are stupid. Someone will offer Lauri more than he's worth because they suck and hope he will somehow take a leap after being mediocre his entire career. The Bulls will have to offer a bad contract or lose him for nothing.

The point of the post you replied to is that there will be one less big name free agent on the market next off-season while all the remaining teams will have the same amount of cap space. That means more competition for the remaining players in free agency and bigger contracts due to more bidders. These extensions are bad for the Bulls because they will have to pay more to keep a mediocre player around and hope he reaches his potential.

The one with a global pandemic that is preventing fans from attending games and owners getting the revenue they normally would, teams are going to be far more picky with players with "potential" and it's a bit of a stretch to say a guy like Lauri is still "potential" given he's shown basically no improvement year to year and is in his fourth year.

You have to understand nba finances. Salaries are a direct reflection of overall league cap space. A team set not to have any cap space just signed a max player. So now the same league cap space is available but with one less free agent that would have taken $35M of it. Look at the “cap spike year” for a more extreme example

Teams aren't going throw money out at players that haven't proven anything in the current financial climate.

If Gobert is worth 40, Lauri is worth half based on potential alone.

No Lauri is not, not even close.

While Gobert is not worth 40 million he at the very least keeps the Jazz playoff regulars for the foreseeable future with a punchers chance of turning into a contender along with Mitchell, which adds to the bottom line of the Jazz ownership.

You give Lauri 20 million and you're committing to being a bottom feeder for the foreseeable future.

[PrimzyBulls81]

Kuzma contract is the limit for Lauri, 12-14M per year.. Thats it, take it or leave it! Unless there will be sign&trade for bigger amount..

[weneeda2guard]

Rockets are looking for a 3rd team to help facilitate a harden to Brooklyn or harden to heat deal per cbs news.

Wouldn't mind the bulls getting in on this to get them a taste.

Something like

Bulls get Dinwiddie

Rockets get caris levert, lauri markenen, otto porter Jr, bulls protected pick, nets unprotected pick.

Nets get harden.