Boxing Thread 4.0

Butch718 · Post #2121 » by **Butch718** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:01 am

Canelo dominated this fight. I don’t see any legit challenges other than Beterbiev at 175 or Charlo or GGG somewhere between 160-168.

Right now based of level of opposition and rise in weight classes he’s my P4P number 1. And this is coming from someone that thought he lost both GGG fights.

Papi_swav · Post #2122 » by **Papi_swav** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:11 am

Canelo with another great win. Smith was a giant next to him and Canelo was walking him down all night, Smith power didn't even affect him. Canelo is getting better and better with each fight.

Papi_swav · Post #2123 » by **Papi_swav** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:13 am

Butch718 wrote:Canelo dominated this fight. I don’t see any legit challenges other than Beterbiev at 175 or Charlo or GGG somewhere between 160-168.

Right now based of level of opposition and rise in weight classes he’s my P4P number 1. And this is coming from someone that thought he lost both GGG fights.

Yea I think Charlo is his biggest threat, dude is knocking everything out almost.

Canelo definitely lost the 1st fight with GGG but I think he clearly won the 2nd fight. GGG did not look the same in the 2nd fight and it looked like he aged. GGG might of redeemed himself friday with that KO win but IDK how good his opponent was. I can see a 3rd Canelo/GGG fight happening.

cowboyronnie · Post #2124 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:32 pm

Lol. Canelo pacing between rounds. Including the 11th and 12th. Trying to get some aerobics in cos it was all anaerobic slamming his fists into Smith.

That was like watching a boa constrictor work. Just slowly encroaching over the first 5 or 6 rounds.

How did one judge give Smith 3 rnds? That seems suspiciously like overcompensation

cowboyronnie · Post #2125 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:32 pm

The GGG fight was repulsive. That guy had no business off of the regional scene. And h had, like, 4 total KOs or something. He was no threat at all and GGG looked two weight classes heavier.

The most repulsive thing was GGG's head hunting. He might thrown 24 of every 25 to the head. The guy's body was wide open, he held his guard up above his forehead sometimes. GGG was in range the whole fight to bang dude's liver.

Finish the guy off in 3-4 or hit him to the body, be **** humane.

aggerrard · Post #2126 » by **aggerrard** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:44 am

Let's have Joshua vs Fury in april/May - and have Canelo fight the winner :lol:

cowboyronnie · Post #2127 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:20 pm

Papi_swav wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:Canelo is nowhere near as fast as Jroc. Munguia has a hell of a lot of power, he's proven that. I'm just saying u can't disregard those guys as if Canelo will just roll right over them when Canelo himself has flaws too.

You thinking Canelo will just walk over everybody as if he's untouchable or if he's Mayweather proves your just a bandwagoner. Canelo has 3 L's on my card and everybody else card but he was gift wrapped some wins. Didn't even mention the steroid chicken he was eating, twice ! Canelo is very good but his track record has some holes and he isn't the top boxer in the game.

Hurd and Munguia will definitely give Canelo trouble, especially Munguia,

How is that dumb? Munguia is a brawler, is strong and tall. This is what I'm talking about, you speaking as if Canelo would just walk right thru him and as if he's not a threat. Don't ever doubt anybody that put on gloves. I could tell you never been in a ring your entire life. You probably never even had a fist fight in your life, actually u was prolly bullied.

Yes Hurd and Munguia will give Canelo trouble and I stand by that statement. You acting like I said they would knock Canelo out in the first round. Those guys are strong and have long reach.

Just gonna leave this here. From a few months ago.

Callum Smith can't do it bu...Jaime Munguia, there's the guy to de-throne Canelo.

cowboyronnie · Post #2128 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:26 pm

Of Jermall's last 6 opponents, I've heard of 1. Derevyanchenko. How is he going to have the power to push back Canelo when he is UDing Dennis Hogan, Brandon Adams, and Matt Korobov in the last year and a half? Who the hell is Jorge Sebastian Heiland?

There are a half dozen serious names at 160/168, Charlo's taken on none of them.

The Charlo brothers don't want to leave Brooklyn. So they're flying in guys from Russia and Argentina to pad their records. In what way is this overwhelming evidence that Canelo needs to face them?

Beterbiev is a serious threat. Maybe BJS, if he can get back on the EPO and return to the form he had against Lemieux.

TheDunc · Post #2129 » by **TheDunc** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:45 pm

My boxing knowledge is lacking but any chance we see a Berterbiev fight Canelo? Ive seen some of his fights and the dude is a monster with crazy power. Feel like he might give Canelo a run for his money but Berterbiev is starting to get up there in age so it probably has to happen sooner then later

Pelon chingon · Post #2130 » by **Pelon chingon** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:20 pm

Charlos/Plant/Andrade/BJS/GGG/Smith all can fight eachother but they are waiting for Canelo to pick them like hes the damn bachelor handing out Rose's. Canelo is P4P king deal with it.

cowboyronnie · Post #2131 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:26 pm

TheDunc wrote:My boxing knowledge is lacking but any chance we see a Berterbiev fight Canelo? Ive seen some of his fights and the dude is a monster with crazy power. Feel like he might give Canelo a run for his money but Berterbiev is starting to get up there in age so it probably has to happen sooner then later

Beterbiev would almost surely beat Canelo.

But he is also 175 pounds. Canelo started at 140/147 and, as touchstone, he fought Mayweather at 152. For him, at 5'8'', to move from ~150 to 175 with a stocky frame is pretty nuts. Nevermind, to take on a P4P candidate.

He has serious balls if he ever attempts it.

Papi_swav · Post #2132 » by **Papi_swav** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:43 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:

Hurd and Munguia will definitely give Canelo trouble, especially Munguia,

How is that dumb? Munguia is a brawler, is strong and tall. This is what I'm talking about, you speaking as if Canelo would just walk right thru him and as if he's not a threat. Don't ever doubt anybody that put on gloves. I could tell you never been in a ring your entire life. You probably never even had a fist fight in your life, actually u was prolly bullied.

Yes Hurd and Munguia will give Canelo trouble and I stand by that statement. You acting like I said they would knock Canelo out in the first round. Those guys are strong and have long reach.

Just gonna leave this here. From a few months ago.

Callum Smith can't do it bu...Jaime Munguia, there's the guy to de-throne Canelo.

but u the one that was beating your chest saying Smith was going to spank Canelo lol ok. I still stand by it. Smith is trashhhh and u over here acting like thats your favorite boxer.

Papi_swav · Post #2133 » by **Papi_swav** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:47 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:I'm excited to see this because Canelo can't use all that casual defensive movement at the waist and shoulders as he works his way in. Callum is awesome at finding the body and with both hands. If Canelo thinks he can plant his feet and move at the hips, he's going to get banged to the ribs from a guy with dozens of body shot KDs. He's so gangly that he can throw from ridiculous angles.

Nor can he pierce Callum's guard, which is airtight. I expect Canelo's team has made sure that this is a tiny ring with a soft floor (like the Klitschkos would do). Cos if Callum can keep moving and avoid getting backed into the ropes, he is a real problem.

Just going to leave this here, this was right before the fight.

Look how dum u sound. Canelo walked right thru Smith with ease lol probably the easiest fight of his life.

cowboyronnie · Post #2134 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:48 pm

"Hurd and Munguia will give Canelo trouble and I stand by that statement."

cowboyronnie · Post #2135 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:50 pm

Papi_swav wrote:
cowboyronnie wrote:I'm excited to see this because Canelo can't use all that casual defensive movement at the waist and shoulders as he works his way in. Callum is awesome at finding the body and with both hands. If Canelo thinks he can plant his feet and move at the hips, he's going to get banged to the ribs from a guy with dozens of body shot KDs. He's so gangly that he can throw from ridiculous angles.

I was exactly right. Canelo did none of those things. He stood tall, barely moved his head, and took punches off the gloves.

DAMN U GOT ME

Papi_swav · Post #2136 » by **Papi_swav** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:54 pm

cowboyronnie wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:
cowboyronnie wrote:I'm excited to see this because Canelo can't use all that casual defensive movement at the waist and shoulders as he works his way in. Callum is awesome at finding the body and with both hands. If Canelo thinks he can plant his feet and move at the hips, he's going to get banged to the ribs from a guy with dozens of body shot KDs. He's so gangly that he can throw from ridiculous angles.

I was exactly right. Canelo did none of those things. He stood tall, barely moved his head, and took punches off the gloves.

DAMN U GOT ME

He did all of those things, are u blind or on drugs? Canelo made Smith look stoopid, missing a bunch of shots and walking thru his shots.

Yea I definitely did get you, u made it seem like Smith was even a worthy opponent or even had a chance, he had zero chance and didn't even belong in the same ring with him. That was the easiest fight of Canelo life . Your assessment was horrible, accept that L. And don't ever call me out, u dont know boxing. U never been in a fist fight in your life.

aggerrard · Post #2137 » by **aggerrard** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:12 am

Pelon chingon wrote:Charlos/Plant/Andrade/BJS/GGG/Smith all can fight eachother but they are waiting for Canelo to pick them like hes the damn bachelor handing out Rose's. Canelo is P4P king deal with it.

No doubt. I can see him go down as a top-10 all time.

Papi_swav · Post #2138 » by **Papi_swav** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:58 am

aggerrard wrote:
Pelon chingon wrote:Charlos/Plant/Andrade/BJS/GGG/Smith all can fight eachother but they are waiting for Canelo to pick them like hes the damn bachelor handing out Rose's. Canelo is P4P king deal with it.

No doubt. I can see him go down as a top-10 all time.

The steroids will taint his legacy a little, like it did with Arod and Bonds etc..

Pelon chingon · Post #2139 » by **Pelon chingon** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:18 am

Papi_swav wrote:
aggerrard wrote:
Pelon chingon wrote:Charlos/Plant/Andrade/BJS/GGG/Smith all can fight eachother but they are waiting for Canelo to pick them like hes the damn bachelor handing out Rose's. Canelo is P4P king deal with it.

No doubt. I can see him go down as a top-10 all time.

The steroids will taint his legacy a little, like it did with Arod and Bonds etc..

Mexico puts small amounts of steroids in their cattle. Many many Mexican athletes have tested positive in their urine but not in the hair follicle test same as in the Canelo case.

Papi_swav · Post #2140 » by **Papi_swav** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:23 am

Pelon chingon wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:
aggerrard wrote:No doubt. I can see him go down as a top-10 all time.

The steroids will taint his legacy a little, like it did with Arod and Bonds etc..

Mexico puts small amounts of steroids in their cattle. Many many Mexican athletes have tested positive in their urine but not in the hair follicle test same as in the Canelo case.

so most mexican fighters cheat?