Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock

[dice]

If Mitch plays like he has past few games to finish season what does he get paid?

1-2 years, $18-22 mill per year, about 2/3rds of it guaranteed is what i would expect the market to be

If its in that ballpark bears will need to make some cuts on defense to make it work.

which would be nutty. if trubisky is better than foles it ain't by that much. just like he wasn't head and shoulders a better prospect than watson and mahomes. no reason at all to pay up big for him

the bears have no good options this offseason

[dice]

first 48 games of their careers:

aaron rodgers 28-20
deshaun watson 28-20
mitch trubisky 28-20

[fleet]

first 48 games of their careers:

aaron rodgers 28-20
deshaun watson 28-20
mitch trubisky 28-20

In context, an empty stat if there ever was one. Eddie Jackson has more to do with Mitch’s record than Mitch does.

[Susan]

If Mitch plays like he has past few games to finish season what does he get paid?

1-2 years, $18-22 mill per year, about 2/3rds of it guaranteed is what i would expect the market to be

If its in that ballpark bears will need to make some cuts on defense to make it work.

which would be nutty. if trubisky is better than foles it ain't by that much. just like he wasn't head and shoulders a better prospect than watson and mahomes. no reason at all to pay up big for him

the bears have no good options this offseason

Ok, then overdraft a QB with the 18th overall pick and hope he develops?

Keep Mitch, resign Arob, get draft capital for Fuller/Hicks, cut Leno/Massie/Graham, draft BPA and replace Pagano with our own Staley and hope we get back to development on the defensive side of the ball.

Run the same scheme as we have been (Tennessee, Cleveland, Minnesota and SF are all run heavy, move the pocket offenses and all have had good success recently) and stay relevant.

We're looking at a run of 12-4, 8-8 and most likely 9-7 this season. We have the 12th best W/L record since 2018, I don't want to see what it was from 2014-18 after they let go of Lovie.

[thedarkstark]

1-2 years, $18-22 mill per year, about 2/3rds of it guaranteed is what i would expect the market to be

If its in that ballpark bears will need to make some cuts on defense to make it work.

which would be nutty. if trubisky is better than foles it ain't by that much. just like he wasn't head and shoulders a better prospect than watson and mahomes. no reason at all to pay up big for him

the bears have no good options this offseason

Ok, then overdraft a QB with the 18th overall pick and hope he develops?

Keep Mitch, resign Arob, get draft capital for Fuller/Hicks, cut Leno/Massie/Graham, draft BPA and replace Pagano with our own Staley and hope we get back to development on the defensive side of the ball.

Run the same scheme as we have been (Tennessee, Cleveland, Minnesota and SF are all run heavy, move the pocket offenses and all have had good success recently) and stay relevant.

We're looking at a run of 12-4, 8-8 and most likely 9-7 this season. We have the 12th best W/L record since 2018, I don't want to see what it was from 2014-18 after they let go of Lovie.

I agree that we shouldn't enter 2021 with Nick Foles and the #18 pick as our starter/backup qbs but yes I think you draft a QB if one falls that you think has the potential to be a game changer.

I like the idea of bringing back Mitch/Arob and trading or cutting Hicks/Trevethan/Leno/whoever is on the older side and can save the roster money not sure how realistic that is though considering you obviously need to pay for their replacements. We should hang onto youngish pro bowlers like Fuller and Jackson unless we're getting something valuable in return for them.

Regardless you should always have a developmental QB on the roster, that was one of Paces biggest failures, he let Nagy talk him into wasting a roster spot on Tyler ****ing Bray.

The reality is that the Bears are in an AWFUL position going into 2021 and that's precisely why Ryan Pace needs to be shown the door.

[fleet]

Everyone is on the bandwagon now after my “sources” spilled the beans on Mustipher and Bars

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[MalagaBulls]

Everyone is on the bandwagon now after my “sources” spilled the beans on Mustipher and Bars

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Notwithstanding the perennial QB fiasco we deal with, the Bears Interior Oline is in good shape with Mustipher, Bars, Whitehair, & Daniels. We also have other pieces in every unit that have upside. BTW Fleet, the industry term is "Sauces".

[ATRAIN53]

I love practice squad guys - they play hard to earn a paycheck. That story doesn't surprise me at all.

Him not getting drafted in 7 rounds after being part of some good ND squads is confusing. I mean 7 rounds and the guy was 4 year starter down there.

Maybe we can't beat Alabama and Clemson when it counts - but Brian Kelly is turning out some great football players. I wonder when he will go NFL.....

[Chi town]

which would be nutty. if trubisky is better than foles it ain't by that much. just like he wasn't head and shoulders a better prospect than watson and mahomes. no reason at all to pay up big for him

the bears have no good options this offseason

Ok, then overdraft a QB with the 18th overall pick and hope he develops?

Keep Mitch, resign Arob, get draft capital for Fuller/Hicks, cut Leno/Massie/Graham, draft BPA and replace Pagano with our own Staley and hope we get back to development on the defensive side of the ball.

Run the same scheme as we have been (Tennessee, Cleveland, Minnesota and SF are all run heavy, move the pocket offenses and all have had good success recently) and stay relevant.

We're looking at a run of 12-4, 8-8 and most likely 9-7 this season. We have the 12th best W/L record since 2018, I don't want to see what it was from 2014-18 after they let go of Lovie.

I agree that we shouldn't enter 2021 with Nick Foles and the #18 pick as our starter/backup qbs but yes I think you draft a QB if one falls that you think has the potential to be a game changer.

I like the idea of bringing back Mitch/Arob and trading or cutting Hicks/Trevethan/Leno/whoever is on the older side and can save the roster money not sure how realistic that is though considering you obviously need to pay for their replacements. We should hang onto youngish pro bowlers like Fuller and Jackson unless we're getting something valuable in return for them.

Regardless you should always have a developmental QB on the roster, that was one of Paces biggest failures, he let Nagy talk him into wasting a roster spot on Tyler ****ing Bray.

The reality is that the Bears are in an AWFUL position going into 2021 and that's precisely why Ryan Pace needs to be shown the door.

This Mitch that can run the ball to move the chains in this offense with this running game can win you playoff games.

I’d keep Hicks. He probably has one more season of strong football in him.

I’d draft an OT and BPA. Would love to get another fast WR too.

[Susan]

which would be nutty. if trubisky is better than foles it ain't by that much. just like he wasn't head and shoulders a better prospect than watson and mahomes. no reason at all to pay up big for him

the bears have no good options this offseason

Ok, then overdraft a QB with the 18th overall pick and hope he develops?

Keep Mitch, resign Arob, get draft capital for Fuller/Hicks, cut Leno/Massie/Graham, draft BPA and replace Pagano with our own Staley and hope we get back to development on the defensive side of the ball.

Run the same scheme as we have been (Tennessee, Cleveland, Minnesota and SF are all run heavy, move the pocket offenses and all have had good success recently) and stay relevant.

We're looking at a run of 12-4, 8-8 and most likely 9-7 this season. We have the 12th best W/L record since 2018, I don't want to see what it was from 2014-18 after they let go of Lovie.

I agree that we shouldn't enter 2021 with Nick Foles and the #18 pick as our starter/backup qbs but yes I think you draft a QB if one falls that you think has the potential to be a game changer.

I like the idea of bringing back Mitch/Arob and trading or cutting Hicks/Trevethan/Leno/whoever is on the older side and can save the roster money not sure how realistic that is though considering you obviously need to pay for their replacements. We should hang onto youngish pro bowlers like Fuller and Jackson unless we're getting something valuable in return for them.

Regardless you should always have a developmental QB on the roster, that was one of Paces biggest failures, he let Nagy talk him into wasting a roster spot on Tyler ****ing Bray.

The reality is that the Bears are in an AWFUL position going into 2021 and that's precisely why Ryan Pace needs to be shown the door.

Awful?

Nagy took a step back and appears to have grown from it.
Mitch and ARob can be retained.
The interior of the oline is good with Daniels, Whitehair and Mustipher. The tackles can be let go without crushing the cap.
Montgomery, Mooney and Kmet are all solid pieces of a foundation.

Going 12-4, 8-8 then 9-7 is the best run since Lovie's last 3 years, after that we had one 8-8 season followed by a complete teardown four year terrible streak.

Give me 8-8 in the bad years and playoff births in the good years please.

[transplant]

Question. The media had a strong narrative last year and this offseason: If the Bears' offense can be just average, with the Bears defense, this team is a Super Bowl contender.

It appears that the media doesn't believe this anymore because the Bears offense is looking at least average lately (in truth, a bit better than that), but the media almost unanimously believes that the Bears are a very marginal playoff team and a sure-thing first-round out if they sneak into the playoffs.

The difference is that the defense isn't quite as good as the experts thought they were, but no one in the media seems to be talking about this.

[Hold That]

Clock been going since Payton retired and Ditka was fired. Someone check the clock because the time seems to be set on infinite.

[thedarkstark]

Ok, then overdraft a QB with the 18th overall pick and hope he develops?

Keep Mitch, resign Arob, get draft capital for Fuller/Hicks, cut Leno/Massie/Graham, draft BPA and replace Pagano with our own Staley and hope we get back to development on the defensive side of the ball.

Run the same scheme as we have been (Tennessee, Cleveland, Minnesota and SF are all run heavy, move the pocket offenses and all have had good success recently) and stay relevant.

We're looking at a run of 12-4, 8-8 and most likely 9-7 this season. We have the 12th best W/L record since 2018, I don't want to see what it was from 2014-18 after they let go of Lovie.

I agree that we shouldn't enter 2021 with Nick Foles and the #18 pick as our starter/backup qbs but yes I think you draft a QB if one falls that you think has the potential to be a game changer.

I like the idea of bringing back Mitch/Arob and trading or cutting Hicks/Trevethan/Leno/whoever is on the older side and can save the roster money not sure how realistic that is though considering you obviously need to pay for their replacements. We should hang onto youngish pro bowlers like Fuller and Jackson unless we're getting something valuable in return for them.

Regardless you should always have a developmental QB on the roster, that was one of Paces biggest failures, he let Nagy talk him into wasting a roster spot on Tyler ****ing Bray.

The reality is that the Bears are in an AWFUL position going into 2021 and that's precisely why Ryan Pace needs to be shown the door.

Awful?

Nagy took a step back and appears to have grown from it.
Mitch and ARob can be retained.
The interior of the oline is good with Daniels, Whitehair and Mustipher. The tackles can be let go without crushing the cap.
Montgomery, Mooney and Kmet are all solid pieces of a foundation.

Going 12-4, 8-8 then 9-7 is the best run since Lovie's last 3 years, after that we had one 8-8 season followed by a complete teardown four year terrible streak.

Give me 8-8 in the bad years and playoff births in the good years please.

Yes they're in an awful position next year salary-wise.

As it currently stands the Bears are projected to have ~$2 million to spend in 2021 and they need to: Resign A Rob, Resign Mitch, Sign 2 competent Tackles.

Other Free Agents that will need resigning or replacing:
Cordarelle Patterson
Pat O'Donnel
Deon Bush
Sherrick McMannis
Alex Bars
Cairo Santos

You're looking at like $40-45 million dollars in salary right there and that doesn't include all the reserves that will be free agents also.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/chicago-bears/

The Quinn, Massie, and Leno contracts are absolutely killing us.

[Susan]

I agree that we shouldn't enter 2021 with Nick Foles and the #18 pick as our starter/backup qbs but yes I think you draft a QB if one falls that you think has the potential to be a game changer.

I like the idea of bringing back Mitch/Arob and trading or cutting Hicks/Trevethan/Leno/whoever is on the older side and can save the roster money not sure how realistic that is though considering you obviously need to pay for their replacements. We should hang onto youngish pro bowlers like Fuller and Jackson unless we're getting something valuable in return for them.

Regardless you should always have a developmental QB on the roster, that was one of Paces biggest failures, he let Nagy talk him into wasting a roster spot on Tyler ****ing Bray.

The reality is that the Bears are in an AWFUL position going into 2021 and that's precisely why Ryan Pace needs to be shown the door.

Awful?

Nagy took a step back and appears to have grown from it.
Mitch and ARob can be retained.
The interior of the oline is good with Daniels, Whitehair and Mustipher. The tackles can be let go without crushing the cap.
Montgomery, Mooney and Kmet are all solid pieces of a foundation.

Going 12-4, 8-8 then 9-7 is the best run since Lovie's last 3 years, after that we had one 8-8 season followed by a complete teardown four year terrible streak.

Give me 8-8 in the bad years and playoff births in the good years please.

Yes they're in an awful position next year salary-wise.

As it currently stands the Bears are projected to have ~$2 million to spend in 2021 and they need to: Resign A Rob, Resign Mitch, Sign 2 competent Tackles.

Other Free Agents that will need resigning or replacing:
Cordarelle Patterson
Pat O'Donnel
Deon Bush
Sherrick McMannis
Alex Bars
Cairo Santos

You're looking at like $40-45 million dollars in salary right there and that doesn't include all the reserves that will be free agents also.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/chicago-bears/

The Quinn, Massie, and Leno contracts are absolutely killing us.

Cutting Massie, Leno and Graham would have $30m in savings with roughly $10m in dead cap.

Draft a LT in round 1, draft another tackle in either 2 or 3, keep Ifedi, Bars and let the strong interior be the foundation.

It's not good but honestly Mitch showing signs is way better than setting the whole thing on fire again. He's going to get a Bridgewater contract.

[Jeffster81]

Maybe we can't beat Alabama and Clemson when it counts - but Brian Kelly is turning out some great football players. I wonder when he will go NFL.....

Kelly never coached in the NFL and you think he'll try the NFL at his current age? (He is pushing 60, btw.) I feel like Kelly is a lifer at ND.

[dice]

I agree that we shouldn't enter 2021 with Nick Foles and the #18 pick as our starter/backup qbs but yes I think you draft a QB if one falls that you think has the potential to be a game changer.

I like the idea of bringing back Mitch/Arob and trading or cutting Hicks/Trevethan/Leno/whoever is on the older side and can save the roster money not sure how realistic that is though considering you obviously need to pay for their replacements. We should hang onto youngish pro bowlers like Fuller and Jackson unless we're getting something valuable in return for them.

Regardless you should always have a developmental QB on the roster, that was one of Paces biggest failures, he let Nagy talk him into wasting a roster spot on Tyler ****ing Bray.

The reality is that the Bears are in an AWFUL position going into 2021 and that's precisely why Ryan Pace needs to be shown the door.

Awful?

Nagy took a step back and appears to have grown from it.
Mitch and ARob can be retained.
The interior of the oline is good with Daniels, Whitehair and Mustipher. The tackles can be let go without crushing the cap.
Montgomery, Mooney and Kmet are all solid pieces of a foundation.

Going 12-4, 8-8 then 9-7 is the best run since Lovie's last 3 years, after that we had one 8-8 season followed by a complete teardown four year terrible streak.

Give me 8-8 in the bad years and playoff births in the good years please.

Yes they're in an awful position next year salary-wise.

As it currently stands the Bears are projected to have ~$2 million to spend in 2021 and they need to: Resign A Rob, Resign Mitch, Sign 2 competent Tackles.

Other Free Agents that will need resigning or replacing:
Cordarelle Patterson
Pat O'Donnel
Deon Bush
Sherrick McMannis
Alex Bars
Cairo Santos

You're looking at like $40-45 million dollars in salary right there and that doesn't include all the reserves that will be free agents also.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/chicago-bears/

The Quinn, Massie, and Leno contracts are absolutely killing us.

as susan says, massie could reasonably be cut at relatively small cost. don't think leno is worth cutting. another problem is kyle fuller, who got paid like a prince for one great season but has regressed to being a pretty standard #1 corner. $20 mil cap hit next season, which the bears are now unlikely to be willing to pay to retain their top receiver 'cause they can't afford it

[Chi town]

Awful?

Nagy took a step back and appears to have grown from it.
Mitch and ARob can be retained.
The interior of the oline is good with Daniels, Whitehair and Mustipher. The tackles can be let go without crushing the cap.
Montgomery, Mooney and Kmet are all solid pieces of a foundation.

Going 12-4, 8-8 then 9-7 is the best run since Lovie's last 3 years, after that we had one 8-8 season followed by a complete teardown four year terrible streak.

Give me 8-8 in the bad years and playoff births in the good years please.

Yes they're in an awful position next year salary-wise.

As it currently stands the Bears are projected to have ~$2 million to spend in 2021 and they need to: Resign A Rob, Resign Mitch, Sign 2 competent Tackles.

Other Free Agents that will need resigning or replacing:
Cordarelle Patterson
Pat O'Donnel
Deon Bush
Sherrick McMannis
Alex Bars
Cairo Santos

You're looking at like $40-45 million dollars in salary right there and that doesn't include all the reserves that will be free agents also.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/chicago-bears/

The Quinn, Massie, and Leno contracts are absolutely killing us.

as susan says, massie could reasonably be cut at relatively small cost. don't think leno is worth cutting. another problem is kyle fuller, who got paid like a prince for one great season but has regressed to being a pretty standard #1 corner. $20 mil cap hit next season, which the bears are now unlikely to be willing to pay to retain their top receiver 'cause they can't afford it

Fuller’s regression is due to the scheme IMO. Pagano plays safe and gives the corners room. Fuller plays best attacking.

[Chi town]

I’ve watched a bunch of YT of every Mitch throw from pst seasons and it’s shocking to see how Nagy tried to make him someone he’s not. So many complicated plays with reads and long developing deep throws. Not Mitch’s game.

Makes me wonder how we could have done had Nagy changed sooner. I understand him wanting to play his way because he believes in it and how he inherited Mitch... not his guy he picked.

I think we can win with Mitch playing in this scheme and I think he’s gaining confidence and is so much more decisive. What tips the scales is his ability to make plays with his feet. That makes him so hard to defend much like Russel Wilson.

I’d love to see the Bears resign AROB and draft another big WR that can go deep and get jump balls.

We will lose some players on D but getting Goldman back will help. I think Quinn has been hurt too.

[MalagaBulls]

Sportsmockery quoting Bill Barnwell (ESPN) predicting Bears will resign Trubisky to a 4/90M contract with a 20M signing bonus and only a 2M 2021 salary guaranteed. That gives the Bears an out after 2021. FWIW.

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[DJhitek]

Oh my, if the Bears sign Trubisky to an extension it would compound the biggest mistake in franchise history. My stance is the same before, fire everyone and find a way to move piece by piece to gain flexibility. Not everything has been Trubisky fault, but I’m not paying him more future money in the hopes we find a competent coach and GM.