2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1

[dukeknicksirish]

really impressive highlights, gonna have to do my homework on this guy

I have watched a few games on him. Throughout the 4 games played he has only recorded 1.5 assists per game. He is definitely a shooting guard, not a point guard. His height listed at 6'5 is about ideal for the SG position and he has a boost of athleticism that screams out NBA ready.

Here is a link of a scouting report done on him:

https://zonahoops.com/2020/07/17/james-bouknight-scouting-report/

sounds good, yeah was pegging him as a SG. If IQ actually works out as a PG for us putting a great SG next to him would give us a great 1-2 punch

My dream scenario would be for us:

- Land 1-4 in this years draft and select Cade or Suggs with our first pick
- Trade Charlotte 2nd round pick and Mavs 1st round pick (24-26 probably) to move up to 13-15 and select Bouknight with that selection
- Select Drew Timmie with Detroit 2nd round pick
- Then enter FA with $85 million in cap space

Cade(Suggs) / Quickley
Bouknight / Frank
RJ / Iggy
Obi / Knox
Mitch / Timme

[TheGreenArrow]

My Knicks big board:

1.Cade
2.Green
3.kuminga
4.Boston
5.Mobley
6.suggs
7.Barnes

[DowNY]

I have watched a few games on him. Throughout the 4 games played he has only recorded 1.5 assists per game. He is definitely a shooting guard, not a point guard. His height listed at 6'5 is about ideal for the SG position and he has a boost of athleticism that screams out NBA ready.

Here is a link of a scouting report done on him:

https://zonahoops.com/2020/07/17/james-bouknight-scouting-report/

sounds good, yeah was pegging him as a SG. If IQ actually works out as a PG for us putting a great SG next to him would give us a great 1-2 punch

My dream scenario would be for us:

- Land 1-4 in this years draft and select Cade or Suggs with our first pick
- Trade Charlotte 2nd round pick and Mavs 1st round pick (24-26 probably) to move up to 13-15 and select Bouknight with that selection
- Select Drew Timmie with Detroit 2nd round pick
- Then enter FA with $85 million in cap space

Cade(Suggs) / Quickley
Bouknight / Frank
RJ / Iggy
Obi / Knox
Mitch / Timme

Noah will still be on our books next season.
Unless traded, Julius will have $4M at least on the books.
2 1st rd selections aren’t cheap.
Bring back Frank for how much? (could just let Frank go and keep Rivers for $3M)

With all that said, how do you expect to get to $85M in cap space and who are you signing if you just typed out a 10 man rotation of youngins?

[DowNY]

My Knicks big board:

1.Cade
2.Green
3.kuminga
4.Boston
5.Mobley
6.suggs
7.Barnes

Based on word that the staff sees RJ as a SF, mine would be:

1. Cade
2. Suggs
3. Green
4. Mobley
5. BJ
6.Kuminga
7. Nix

[RHODEY]

I have watched a few games on him. Throughout the 4 games played he has only recorded 1.5 assists per game. He is definitely a shooting guard, not a point guard. His height listed at 6'5 is about ideal for the SG position and he has a boost of athleticism that screams out NBA ready.

Here is a link of a scouting report done on him:

https://zonahoops.com/2020/07/17/james-bouknight-scouting-report/

sounds good, yeah was pegging him as a SG. If IQ actually works out as a PG for us putting a great SG next to him would give us a great 1-2 punch

My dream scenario would be for us:

- Land 1-4 in this years draft and select Cade or Suggs with our first pick
- Trade Charlotte 2nd round pick and Mavs 1st round pick (24-26 probably) to move up to 13-15 and select Bouknight with that selection
- Select Drew Timmie with Detroit 2nd round pick
- Then enter FA with $85 million in cap space

Cade(Suggs) / Quickley
Bouknight / Frank
RJ / Iggy
Obi / Knox
Mitch / Timme

Did you leave an asset out? A 2nd rounder and 24-26 don't get you anywhere close to 13-15 , especially in this deep draft class.

[cgf]

sounds good, yeah was pegging him as a SG. If IQ actually works out as a PG for us putting a great SG next to him would give us a great 1-2 punch

My dream scenario would be for us:

- Land 1-4 in this years draft and select Cade or Suggs with our first pick
- Trade Charlotte 2nd round pick and Mavs 1st round pick (24-26 probably) to move up to 13-15 and select Bouknight with that selection
- Select Drew Timmie with Detroit 2nd round pick
- Then enter FA with $85 million in cap space

Cade(Suggs) / Quickley
Bouknight / Frank
RJ / Iggy
Obi / Knox
Mitch / Timme

Did you leave an asset out? A 2nd rounder and 24-26 don't get you anywhere close to 13-15 , especially in this deep draft class.

Buddy did say it was a dream scenario...but yeah. Moving into the late lottery from the late first is going to take something significant (like Mitch / Obi / our 2022 pick -significant).

...though if we could get high enough to snag Ziaire too, I'd do it

Spoiler:

Suggs | Quickley | Rivers
Barrett | Ntilikina
Williams | Bullock | Lewis
Tobbin | Knox II
Robinson | Noel | Spellman

***drool***

[HerSports85]

Sheesh, am I sleeping on Bouknight.

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[dukeknicksirish]

My dream scenario would be for us:

- Land 1-4 in this years draft and select Cade or Suggs with our first pick
- Trade Charlotte 2nd round pick and Mavs 1st round pick (24-26 probably) to move up to 13-15 and select Bouknight with that selection
- Select Drew Timmie with Detroit 2nd round pick
- Then enter FA with $85 million in cap space

Cade(Suggs) / Quickley
Bouknight / Frank
RJ / Iggy
Obi / Knox
Mitch / Timme

Did you leave an asset out? A 2nd rounder and 24-26 don't get you anywhere close to 13-15 , especially in this deep draft class.

Buddy did say it was a dream scenario...but yeah. Moving into the late lottery from the late first is going to take something significant (like Mitch / Obi / our 2022 pick -significant).

...though if we could get high enough to snag Ziaire too, I'd do it

Spoiler:

Suggs | Quickley | Rivers
Barrett | Ntilikina
Williams | Bullock | Lewis
Tobbin | Knox II
Robinson | Noel | Spellman

***drool***

lol yah i didn't say realistic scenario but we'd have to throw in dallas 23 pick too id assume if we dont want to throw in mitch or obi

[SmoothLefty21]

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really impressive highlights, gonna have to do my homework on this guy

I have watched a few games on him. Throughout the 4 games played he has only recorded 1.5 assists per game. He is definitely a shooting guard, not a point guard. His height listed at 6'5 is about ideal for the SG position and he has a boost of athleticism that screams out NBA ready.

Here is a link of a scouting report done on him:

https://zonahoops.com/2020/07/17/james-bouknight-scouting-report/

To date, this is correct. He has exclusively played off-the-ball. It is something to keep an eye on though. I watched the whole game as I'm a UConn fan. UConn's offense was dreadful in the first half and they opened the second half by putting Bouknight in a bunch of pick-and-rolls and he scored 13 points in about 4 minutes to start the half. He showed some flashes, made some nice reads (pass that led to the pass so his assist numbers weren't there) and it was by far the best UConn's offense looked all day. Creighton adjusted and shut it down since UConn has no shooters but there was some promise.

So as of now, yes, he's unquestionably an SG, but given how bad UConn's offense is I expect to see quite a few PnR opportunities for Bouknight going forward. If he shows some playmaking ability it cements him as a 9-12 pick IMO. His vision will need development but the way he moves and slithers he has the potential to navigate ballscreens quite well.

[Firebird1]

im excited!

[cgf]

Did you leave an asset out? A 2nd rounder and 24-26 don't get you anywhere close to 13-15 , especially in this deep draft class.

Buddy did say it was a dream scenario...but yeah. Moving into the late lottery from the late first is going to take something significant (like Mitch / Obi / our 2022 pick -significant).

...though if we could get high enough to snag Ziaire too, I'd do it

Spoiler:

Suggs | Quickley | Rivers
Barrett | Ntilikina
Williams | Bullock | Lewis
Tobbin | Knox II
Robinson | Noel | Spellman

***drool***

lol yah i didn't say realistic scenario but we'd have to throw in dallas 23 pick too id assume if we dont want to throw in mitch or obi

I'm afraid that's:




Without Mitch, Obi or our 2022 pick, I don't think there's any chance we'd be able to move up from the Mavs pick to the top 12ish to get your boy Bouknight...and my Suggs/Cade + Ziaire fantasy is even less realistic as we'd need to get up to 8 or 9

really impressive highlights, gonna have to do my homework on this guy

I have watched a few games on him. Throughout the 4 games played he has only recorded 1.5 assists per game. He is definitely a shooting guard, not a point guard. His height listed at 6'5 is about ideal for the SG position and he has a boost of athleticism that screams out NBA ready.

Here is a link of a scouting report done on him:

https://zonahoops.com/2020/07/17/james-bouknight-scouting-report/

To date, this is correct. He has exclusively played off-the-ball. It is something to keep an eye on though. I watched the whole game as I'm a UConn fan. UConn's offense was dreadful in the first half and they opened the second half by putting Bouknight in a bunch of pick-and-rolls and he scored 13 points in about 4 minutes to start the half. He showed some flashes, made some nice reads (pass that led to the pass so his assist numbers weren't there) and it was by far the best UConn's offense looked all day. Creighton adjusted and shut it down since UConn has no shooters but there was some promise.

So as of now, yes, he's unquestionably an SG, but given how bad UConn's offense is I expect to see quite a few PnR opportunities for Bouknight going forward. If he shows some playmaking ability it cements him as a 9-12 pick IMO. His vision will need development but the way he moves and slithers he has the potential to navigate ballscreens quite well.

If he can show his playmaking potential as a secondary ballhandler, that would definitely help him as he tries to make that jump from tier 3 to tier 2.

[RandlesCornrows]

Our #1 priority is a lead guard. So Cade or Suggs. If we can get Green. Then have Quickley run that position if he can prove he’s consistent and can start.

[Capn'O]

Luka Garza out there looking like the next Luke Kornet
Badji looks like the next DeSagana Diop.

Yes, I am BAF scouting.


In seriousness, I think I am in on Scottie Lewis in the mid-late first round. He kinda flails with wasted movement sometimes but when he gets settled he is an absolute terror on D with like a prime JR Smith Lite game on offense. He can switch coverage with lightning quickness and grabs steals and blocks before the offensive player knows what happened.

[cgf]

Our #1 priority is a lead guard. So Cade or Suggs. If we can get Green. Then have Quickley run that position if he can prove he’s consistent and can start.

Suggs or Cade would obviously be a dream come true, but hopefully, there will be a few different avenues for us to fill that hole even if the lotto gods don't hook us up with a top 4 pick and we end up drafting one of the sexy wings instead.

Between Quickley showing out this preseason and us having the assets to trade for a young PG stuck behind another young guard on some other team...Garland & Anthony being two to keep an eye on who look most likely to be gettable, with whichever of the Spurs guards loses out on the starting gig being another potential option...we should be in a good spot to make sure that we enter next season with a promising young PG (or two) no matter what.

[RHODEY]

Did you leave an asset out? A 2nd rounder and 24-26 don't get you anywhere close to 13-15 , especially in this deep draft class.

Buddy did say it was a dream scenario...but yeah. Moving into the late lottery from the late first is going to take something significant (like Mitch / Obi / our 2022 pick -significant).

...though if we could get high enough to snag Ziaire too, I'd do it

Spoiler:

Suggs | Quickley | Rivers
Barrett | Ntilikina
Williams | Bullock | Lewis
Tobbin | Knox II
Robinson | Noel | Spellman

***drool***

lol yah i didn't say realistic scenario but we'd have to throw in dallas 23 pick too id assume if we dont want to throw in mitch or obi

I hear you. The way I see it we have a realistic solid crack at top tier 1-4 pick talent - anything after that is icing....But think about it , we got Quickley with #25 this year, so next year that 25th pick could still pay huge dividends..

[cgf]

Buddy did say it was a dream scenario...but yeah. Moving into the late lottery from the late first is going to take something significant (like Mitch / Obi / our 2022 pick -significant).

...though if we could get high enough to snag Ziaire too, I'd do it

Spoiler:

Suggs | Quickley | Rivers
Barrett | Ntilikina
Williams | Bullock | Lewis
Tobbin | Knox II
Robinson | Noel | Spellman

***drool***

lol yah i didn't say realistic scenario but we'd have to throw in dallas 23 pick too id assume if we dont want to throw in mitch or obi

I hear you. The way I see it we have a realistic solid crack at top tier 1-4 pick talent - anything after that is icing....But think about it , we got Quickley with #25 this year, so next year that 25th pick could still pay huge dividends..

Scottie Lewis is my favorite in that range, but it looks like this class should have a handful of interesting talents available that late. Would be nice if we could pick up another pick in that range in-season from selling Bullock / Burks / Rivers. Having our pick -- which will be no worse than top 10 -- two late FRPs & two early SRPs in this class could do us a world of good if Rose can maneuver next year's draft as effectively as he did this year's.

[cgf]

Would be great for us if this kid's shot came along by draft season.

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[Jstock12]

Would be great for us if this kid's shot came along by draft season.

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Russell Westbrook with a jumpshot

[cgf]

Would be great for us if this kid's shot came along by draft season.

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Russell Westbrook with a jumpshot

I'm starting to think that something like that is what some teams will start to see if he keeps showing progress with his shot; leading him to charge into the top 10 (top 5?) as we get closer to the draft.

IIRC he's also young for this class and was a late bloomer with his shot in HS.