ATL - 20-21 Season Begins

raferfenix · Post #1741 » by **raferfenix** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:27 pm

Feeling for Rockets fans.

TD75 · Post #1742 » by **TD75** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:30 pm

The solution to the Harden situation should be straightforward.

He does not get paid. He also is suspended for the league for a certain time (no trades possible, no team can sign him on a contract). After the suspension is over, he either serves the remainder of his contract, or he is suspended again.

soxperry · Post #1743 » by **soxperry** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:42 pm

Yikes....

I dont care how good he is when hes right... That guy is a ticking time bomb. Philly must be licking their chops watching his stock fall.

DingleJerry · Post #1744 » by **DingleJerry** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:23 pm

Yea this is bad news for MKE overall. He's going to end up on BKN and Philly and that team immediately becomes clear cut favorite over MKE. Whereas right now it's us and BKN about even. Even if a more surprise one like Miami gets him it's still bad. You know he's going to the East.

Outside the box idea. Knicks get him and let him just go nuts in MSG. Yea they're not good enough around him but maybe he'd be cool with it for the spotlight of NY and nightlife He'd be good enough to get them to the playoffs and then maybe can get someone to join next year. This of course would need his value to keep dropping and those contenders not paying up and/or dealing with the possible headache issues.

machu46 · Post #1745 » by **machu46** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:45 pm

DingleJerry wrote:Yea this is bad news for MKE overall. He's going to end up on BKN and Philly and that team immediately becomes clear cut favorite over MKE. Whereas right now it's us and BKN about even. Even if a more surprise one like Miami gets him it's still bad. You know he's going to the East.

Outside the box idea. Knicks get him and let him just go nuts in MSG. Yea they're not good enough around him but maybe he'd be cool with it for the spotlight of NY and nightlife He'd be good enough to get them to the playoffs and then maybe can get someone to join next year. This of course would need his value to keep dropping and those contenders not paying up and/or dealing with the possible headache issues.

Similarly to the Knicks idea, I've been waiting a long time for Hambone to combine some of those young pieces that don't really fit together to try to become more than just an 8 seed.

Or for Chicago to make a play like that to try to start creating less of a laughing stock image around the league. Something built around LaVine and Markkanen for example could theoretically be doable if Houston likes them.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1746 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:04 pm

I thought New Orleans was a wildcard Harden spot purely on their ability to put together a appealing trade package and pairing him and Zion makes some sense on the court.

But I don't know if it's wise to put James Harden the person with Zion or close to Burbon Street.

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MikeIsGood · Post #1747 » by **MikeIsGood** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:33 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I thought New Orleans was a wildcard Harden spot purely on their ability to put together a appealing trade package and pairing him and Zion makes some sense on the court.

But I don't know if it's wise to put James Harden the person with Zion or close to Burbon Street.

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For the same reasons Denver should run away from James Harden, NOLA should too. Don't need that **** around any of their young talent.

raferfenix · Post #1748 » by **raferfenix** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:55 pm

If Harden gets traded to the Knicks he can still party with Durant and Kyrie.

Not sure whether they can put together a competitive package but he definitely seems like a Dolan guy.

BUCKnation · Post #1749 » by **BUCKnation** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:59 pm

DingleJerry wrote:I don't even like the NFL, but one of the best things or biggest differences they have going is that once Mahomes became Mahomes the immediate conversation wasn't about how and when he'll get out of KC to someplace cooler. If Jacksonville gets Lawrence the talk around it won't be about where he wants to be after his rookie contract is up, like it involved with Zion. NBA has a lot of things going for it (and things against the NFL) long term with how it can close the gap with the NFL, but this big thing needs to be addressed or they're never going get even close to catching them. Same applies to this Harden/AD type situations. Sure, it happens occasionally in the NFL but it's rare and one player doesn't have same importance (think LaVeon Bell) like it does in the NBA.

This is a great point. Imagine Green Bay the last 30 years with NBA media trying to get Rodgers and Favre out of town.

blazza18 · Post #1750 » by **blazza18** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:24 pm

Ruzious wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
DrWood wrote:Patrick Beverley is an excellent player. You don't need a guy who averages 15 with the other guys on the roster.

They desperately need a creator/playmaker to help run an offense from that position.

Not really - their forwards can run the offense.

Neither of them have the instincts as shown only a few months ago.

blazza18 · Post #1751 » by **blazza18** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:33 pm

Rockets should be forced to forfeit imo. League gotta be strict.

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TroyD92 · Post #1752 » by **TroyD92** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:43 pm

Harden is a great player, but can’t say for certain I could ever root for him on the Bucks (if that ever happened).

machu46 · Post #1753 » by **machu46** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:43 pm

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Bogdanovic not starting in Game #1

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Turk Nowitzki · Post #1754 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:47 pm

machu46 wrote:

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Bogdanovic not starting in Game #1

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Oh wow

Plossum · Post #1755 » by **Plossum** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:55 pm

blazza18 wrote:Rockets should be forced to forfeit imo. League gotta be strict.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Agreed. This is no innocent mistake. Dude was motor boating titties all night long in a pandemic.

machu46 · Post #1756 » by **machu46** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:08 am

Plossum wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Rockets should be forced to forfeit imo. League gotta be strict.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Agreed. This is no innocent mistake. Dude was motor boating titties all night long in a pandemic.

I think if something like this happens due to a blatant violation of the policies, then yeah, they should forfeit. That obviously applies to Harden. It sounds like the real reason the game is being postponed is just sheer dumb luck on the part of a bunch of Rockets players. They went to a players house to get haircuts and believed the whole team was negative and just got unlucky.

Of course we don’t know where the one player got it from though.

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SupremeHustle · Post #1757 » by **SupremeHustle** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:23 am

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
machu46 wrote:

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Bogdanovic not starting in Game #1

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Oh wow

Atlanta didn't even really need him. Bad signing.

Baddy Chuck · Post #1758 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:26 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
machu46 wrote:

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Bogdanovic not starting in Game #1

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Oh wow

Atlanta didn't even really need him. Bad signing.

Yeah the Kevin Huerter perfectly ok backup shooting guard role was already covered too.

DrWood · Post #1759 » by **DrWood** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:40 am

blazza18 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
They desperately need a creator/playmaker to help run an offense from that position.

Not really - their forwards can run the offense.

Neither of them have the instincts as shown only a few months ago.

I guess you're a "can't win without an elite PG" guy. That's been proven to be incorrect.

blazza18 · Post #1760 » by **blazza18** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:43 am

DrWood wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Not really - their forwards can run the offense.

Neither of them have the instincts as shown only a few months ago.

I guess you're a "can't win without an elite PG" guy. That's been proven to be incorrect.

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No I'm a Clippers will find it harder to win without a playmaker/creator guy at guard.