Around the League: 2020 Offseason

[Kobblehead]

Lowkey most underrated to most overrated, Robert Covington.

Yeah, trading Ariza + two first round picks is pretty wild for a guy like Covington. He doesn't offer much more than Ariza, for starters. So having to pay two first round picks for the age difference seems to be a bit much.

Should have been Ariza + a 2nd rounder, at most.

[LloydFree]

Butler and Adebayo had 13 turnovers between the two of them. Whew.

Bubble fluke. Back to earth this season.

Miami gonna get their butts beat this year. And if fans are allowed in the stadiums by playoffs, they're going out in the 1st round.

[LloydFree]

Pistons should be the worst team in the league this season. So much drought on offense.

Josh Jackson looked nice off their bench. But they already regret that Jerami Grant contract LOL

Jeremi Grant is a waste of time on a team like the Pistons. He's strictly 3-D. He needs talent to play off, in order to work. On Washington, he could earn that contract.

[Kobblehead]

Grant seems like a waste of time on any team because he's classified as 3&D yet he's a help defender/weakside shotblocker, at best, on the defensive end and his jumpshot just has a 150 or so game sample size of not being garbage.

[the_process]

If Detroit wants to talk Grant plus salary filler for Harris... talk about full circle.

[76ciology]

Pistons should be the worst team in the league this season. So much drought on offense.

Josh Jackson looked nice off their bench. But they already regret that Jerami Grant contract LOL

Jeremi Grant is a waste of time on a team like the Pistons. He's strictly 3-D. He needs talent to play off, in order to work. On Washington, he could earn that contract.

If we make that Harden trade, I’d instantly call the Pistons and ask them for a Grant for Tobias deal.

[76ciology]

Lowkey most underrated to most overrated, Robert Covington.

Yeah, trading Ariza + two first round picks is pretty wild for a guy like Covington. He doesn't offer much more than Ariza, for starters. So having to pay two first round picks for the age difference seems to be a bit much.

Should have been Ariza + a 2nd rounder, at most.

Honestly, Ive always find him overrated. But he always flew under the radar because teams dont have to pay much to get him. Now, people will put him under a microscope after they overpaid with a couple of first round picks.

Can Rox just consider those picks they stole from Blazer and Wiz came from us and wont ask any picks along Ben? Hahaha

[Negrodamus]

Even though he'll never have a decent three point shot or C&S player, I think it's safe to say that Fultz will be a good NBA player. I'm glad; I hope he plays well against everyone other than us. I feel bad for him.

[Negrodamus]

Also, just watched the ending of the Bucks-Celtics game. Could you imagine the game being on the line and Ben needed to hit 2 free throws to send it to OT, lol.

Giannis actually didn't shoot poorly from the line last night, 6/8.

[76ciology]

Even though he'll never have a decent three point shot or C&S player, I think it's safe to say that Fultz will be a good NBA player. I'm glad; I hope he plays well against everyone other than us. I feel bad for him.

Fultz has way better chance of becoming a good shooter than Ben. Just think about it.

[Iverson Armband]

Hot take: If Fultz had a legit jumpshot he’d be better than Tatum and justified as the #1 pick.

[Kobblehead]

Hot take: If Fultz had a legit jumpshot he’d be better than Tatum and justified as the #1 pick.

What if Josh Jackson had a jumper, though?

Elite defender. Best athlete in that draft, sans Smith. Super confident.

[blargh]

Lowkey most underrated to most overrated, Robert Covington.

Yeah, trading Ariza + two first round picks is pretty wild for a guy like Covington. He doesn't offer much more than Ariza, for starters. So having to pay two first round picks for the age difference seems to be a bit much.

Should have been Ariza + a 2nd rounder, at most.

Honestly, Ive always find him overrated. But he always flew under the radar because teams dont have to pay much to get him. Now, people will put him under a microscope after they overpaid with a couple of first round picks.

Can Rox just consider those picks they stole from Blazer and Wiz came from us and wont ask any picks along Ben? Hahaha

I think the calculus for guys like Jerami and Roco is similar: if you are a contender, you need at least one guy who can credibly matchup with the size and speed of Lebron, Kawhi, and Durant without killing you on the other end, and you may have to overpay to get it. But for the teams these guys are on, they’re not contenders, so the overpay is wasted.

[Iverson Armband]

Hot take: If Fultz had a legit jumpshot he’d be better than Tatum and justified as the #1 pick.

What if Josh Jackson had a jumper, though?

Elite defender. Best athlete in that draft, sans Smith. Super confident.

JJ can’t shot create though.

[Kobblehead]

Since when? Check his Kansas video and his rookie year video.

Watch on YouTube

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Jackson can easily fill a creation role when called upon.

[LloydFree]

Hot take: If Fultz had a legit jumpshot he’d be better than Tatum and justified as the #1 pick.

What if Josh Jackson had a jumper, though?

Elite defender. Best athlete in that draft, sans Smith. Super confident.

If Eric Snow had a legit jumpshot he'd be Chauncey Billups...

[KramerDSP]

Pistons should be the worst team in the league this season. So much drought on offense.

Josh Jackson looked nice off their bench. But they already regret that Jerami Grant contract LOL

Jeremi Grant is a waste of time on a team like the Pistons. He's strictly 3-D. He needs talent to play off, in order to work. On Washington, he could earn that contract.

He’d have been perfect on the 2001 Sixers.

[Kobblehead]

CJ is way overrated in realgm.

A pg sized sg, that doesnt play defense, averages 3 as per game and although a 40% shooter from 3 he has a mediocre 55%TS efficiency because he is not simply that good at anything else. And he is getting 30-35 mil.

He is more like a somewhat rich man's Tobias than a centerpiece in a Harden trade imo.

Between the two, I think Jaylen Brown is more overrated on RealGM. Maybe because there are more Celtics fans posting on the general board.

Subpar deflection stats, defensively. An absolute void of unassisted field goals, offensively. There's no way around it, Jaylen Brown is a role player. A role player with single digit assist percentage and ordinary rebounding numbers.

McCollum only plays SG because he plays next to a 6'2" guy. He'd run point in any other situation, I don't see the issue. McCollum is absolutely elite in the mid-range, check his percentages. North of 40% at nearly ever spot inside the arc. And he's an ace shotcreator that can create off the dribble in his sleep. C.J. ain't overpaid, look at the list of players making $30+ annually. There's at least 10 guys on that list that can't even beat a defender off a dribble and score a bucket (two of which are on our team).

[VDT]

CJ is way overrated in realgm.

A pg sized sg, that doesnt play defense, averages 3 as per game and although a 40% shooter from 3 he has a mediocre 55%TS efficiency because he is not simply that good at anything else. And he is getting 30-35 mil.

He is more like a somewhat rich man's Tobias than a centerpiece in a Harden trade imo.

Between the two, I think Jaylen Brown is more overrated on RealGM. Maybe because there are more Celtics fans posting on the general board.

Subpar deflection stats, defensively. An absolute void of unassisted field goals, offensively. There's no way around it, Jaylen Brown is a role player. A role player with single digit assist percentage and ordinary rebounding numbers.

McCollum only plays SG because he plays next to a 6'2" guy. He'd run point in any other situation, I don't see the issue. McCollum is absolutely elite in the mid-range, check his percentages. North of 40% at nearly ever spot inside the arc. And he's an ace shotcreator that can create off the dribble in his sleep. C.J. ain't overpaid, look at the list of players making $30+ annually. There's at least 10 guys on that list that can't even beat a defender off a dribble and score a bucket (two of which are on our team).

CJ is overrated in the sense that he is significantly better than someone like Tobias yet everyone views his contract as positive. He doesnt offer anything defensively and offensively he is a mediocre scorer (for his contract), scoring 21-22 ppg on a middling 55% TS efficiency, despite being a good 3 point (40%) and ft (83%) shooter. I doubt he is good as pg either. His career assists per 36 is abysmal (3.6) and whenever i see him try to run the offense he doesnt feel good at it.

Brown is 5 years younger and probably better than him already. Even if he doesnt improve anymore he can be a 3+D guy that can also hit some mid range shots, attack close outs and get some transition buckets. In terms of upside, he is probably never going to be that good at creating for others but if he could get better at putting the ball on the floor and use his athleticism he would be a star.

[Kobblehead]

I don't understand why you keep bringing up Harris in reference to McCollum. Harris doesn't do anything useful on the court. McCollum at least creates his own buckets off the dribble.