Rookie Play, Highlights & Discussion

khufure · Post #301 » by **khufure** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:05 pm

Klomp wrote:
theGreatRC wrote:Ant-Man with 15/4/4 off the bench

Watch on YouTube

Why isn't the #1 pick starting? He's not injured, he looks pretty good in I imagine a limited scope not starting... he's the #1 pick I don't get it?

Merc_Porto · Post #302 » by **Merc_Porto** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:58 pm

Deni is going to have difficulties having 5 FGA per game with Westbrook :lol:

Dude deserves more usage time. He looks really good.

TheZachAttack · Post #303 » by **TheZachAttack** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:01 pm

khufure wrote:
Klomp wrote:
theGreatRC wrote:Ant-Man with 15/4/4 off the bench

Watch on YouTube

Why isn't the #1 pick starting? He's not injured, he looks pretty good in I imagine a limited scope not starting... he's the #1 pick I don't get it?

I mean it’s pretty easy to understand if you just take a look at the Wolves roster for a second. The Wolves want to have some defense next to D Lo/Beasley. In addition, Culver/Okogie lineups don’t have enough spacing or shot creation (or at least historically haven’t) and were the Wolves worst lineups. Add in Rubio and that spacing and primary penetration ability is next to zero.

Edwards coming off the bench to start gives the second unit a much needed scorer. In addition, the Wolves want to play Edwards with Rubio who is a steady veteran, good communicator, great playmaker, and great at getting the ball to teammates in the right situations to help them succeed.

The Wolves stagger lineups and don’t do hockey switches. Edwards was in the second group on the team in minutes behind Towns, D Lo, Okogie in game 1. He, Rubio, and Beasley all averaged 25-27 minutes.

Post #304 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:36 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Dubious Handles wrote:I honestly like all the rookies in the top 10 except Ball I hope he gets it going for the sake of Hornets fans but I really dont see it happening.

Yeah... and honestly it doesn’t help Ball that the Hornets always have 2 other very solid pg options on the roster.. so whenever he’s stinking it up they won’t hesitate to pull him

Pretty much. On top of that they have Gordon Haywood who can also facilitate and score.

Gordon Haywood, Rozier and Graham are locked in as starting wings for the foreseeable future. Unless they trade one of them, its going to be more hype then production for Melo in his rookie year.

ILOVEIT · Post #305 » by **ILOVEIT** » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:18 pm

HiRez wrote:
Marcus wrote:

Watch on YouTube

To me the move at :40 is the most impressive.

Agree...that had some quickness to it....and the VERY soft lay in like that....very impressive.

oldshoolballer · Post #306 » by **oldshoolballer** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:06 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
Dubious Handles wrote:I honestly like all the rookies in the top 10 except Ball I hope he gets it going for the sake of Hornets fans but I really dont see it happening.

Yeah... and honestly it doesn’t help Ball that the Hornets always have 2 other very solid pg options on the roster.. so whenever he’s stinking it up they won’t hesitate to pull him

Pretty much. On top of that they have Gordon Haywood who can also facilitate and score.

Gordon Haywood, Rozier and Graham are locked in as starting wings for the foreseeable future. Unless they trade one of them, its going to be more hype then production for Melo in his rookie year.

The pick didn't make any sense the Hornets desperately need a big and Okongwu was right there. Or at least get Avdija who can shoot and play defense. MJ has a history of making bad picks and LaMelo doesn't fit with what the team really needs.

Buzzard · Post #307 » by **Buzzard** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:09 am

Bologna Smasher wrote:
Clocian wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Great debut by Pat tonight. Did a little of everything.

He's highly likely to end up being one of the top three players in the draft. It's good to see that the Bulls saw that and picked him regardless of where he was projected to go.

Williams balled last night and was a bright spot. In the end no defense from Chicago to speak of did them in.

Tanks1 · Post #308 » by **Tanks1** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:18 am

Tyrese Maxey......steal of the draft

PhilBlackson · Post #309 » by **PhilBlackson** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:02 am

Tanks1 wrote:Tyrese Maxey......steal of the draft

Nah, like several players more but he was a nice pick too. The funny thing is how people are seeing this draft wasn't anywhere near as "bad" as they made it out to be.

Celo · Post #310 » by **Celo** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:43 am

PhilBlackson wrote:
Tanks1 wrote:Tyrese Maxey......steal of the draft

Nah, like several players more but he was a nice pick too. The funny thing is how people are seeing this draft wasn't anywhere near as "bad" as they made it out to be.

I don't think people were saying the draft class was/is bad per se, but rather that there aren't any potential clear cut stars. People knew the draft was deep, it was just the top spots that were potentially bad compared to past years.

Having said that, Obi had a rather disappointing regular season debut. His passing is really nice, but other than that, not much to like yet. Obviously not writing him off, but I thought his impact offensively would be greater being an older rookie. Quickley is a nice surprise tho. Hoping he won't miss to many games with the hip injury, team's playing so much better with him at the point.

LivingLegend · Post #311 » by **LivingLegend** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:34 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
Dubious Handles wrote:I honestly like all the rookies in the top 10 except Ball I hope he gets it going for the sake of Hornets fans but I really dont see it happening.

Yeah... and honestly it doesn’t help Ball that the Hornets always have 2 other very solid pg options on the roster.. so whenever he’s stinking it up they won’t hesitate to pull him

Pretty much. On top of that they have Gordon Haywood who can also facilitate and score.

Gordon Haywood, Rozier and Graham are locked in as starting wings for the foreseeable future. Unless they trade one of them, its going to be more hype then production for Melo in his rookie year.

On the plays side I think his game is going to age/grow very nicely. He has a good foundation for the feel/playmaking part of the game.

When he gets older and more experience he can fill in the pieces of the game around that.

I just honestly wouldn't expect much impact for at least 2 years until he figures it out. Similar to his brother Lonzo

lars_rosenberg · Post #312 » by **lars_rosenberg** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:29 pm

Wiseman looks great to me. He's already the second best Warrior, at least until Dray is back.
Can shoot the three, dunk, rebound, block shots, run and put the ball on the floor. He's the complete package.
He's already looking very good despite only playing 3 games last year and missing training camp.

Post #313 » by **Prez** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:10 pm

Wiseman's gonna be a monster in a few years man. It's early but looks like GSW got one of their next building blocks

whatisacenter · Post #314 » by **whatisacenter** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:37 am

thrilled with Wiseman! His J is the truth!

XTC · Post #315 » by **XTC** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:53 am

So someone honestly tell me this

How many bigmen I’m the NBA can grab a shot cleanly out of mid air, bring it back down, and take it coast to coast...

Wiseman is the real deal. Looks like a hybrid of Jermaine O’Neal/Chris Bosh to me. Total beast.

DroseReturnChi · Post #316 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:12 am

whatisacenter wrote:thrilled with Wiseman! His J is the truth!

I will give credit to him with his great shooting. That being said, I dont believe he will be shooting 75% which is unsustainable and Curry shooting 20% from deep for the entire season. Big man you need to be elite like KAT offensively or DPOY level. Wise defense sucks so being KAT is his only option. He is top 3 candidate for ROY but his minutes will be adjusted after Green returns and would like to see how he performs when his jumper sucks and goes 1/10. To me, great players shine even when their jumper sucks.

DroseReturnChi · Post #317 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:23 am

TheZachAttack wrote:
khufure wrote:
Klomp wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Why isn't the #1 pick starting? He's not injured, he looks pretty good in I imagine a limited scope not starting... he's the #1 pick I don't get it?

I mean it’s pretty easy to understand if you just take a look at the Wolves roster for a second. The Wolves want to have some defense next to D Lo/Beasley. In addition, Culver/Okogie lineups don’t have enough spacing or shot creation (or at least historically haven’t) and were the Wolves worst lineups. Add in Rubio and that spacing and primary penetration ability is next to zero.

Edwards coming off the bench to start gives the second unit a much needed scorer. In addition, the Wolves want to play Edwards with Rubio who is a steady veteran, good communicator, great playmaker, and great at getting the ball to teammates in the right situations to help them succeed.

The Wolves stagger lineups and don’t do hockey switches. Edwards was in the second group on the team in minutes behind Towns, D Lo, Okogie in game 1. He, Rubio, and Beasley all averaged 25-27 minutes.

Edwards is just disqualified for Roy bc he will never start on a deep team and will not get opportunities.
This also means the number 1 pick is not as good as Beasley who plays same position as him.
First game he was on the verge of chucking glad it ended at 5/12 bc it would have been ugly.

art_tatum · Post #318 » by **art_tatum** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:39 am

I'm gonna say wiseman will be ROY.

TheZachAttack · Post #319 » by **TheZachAttack** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:37 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:
TheZachAttack wrote:
khufure wrote:Why isn't the #1 pick starting? He's not injured, he looks pretty good in I imagine a limited scope not starting... he's the #1 pick I don't get it?

I mean it’s pretty easy to understand if you just take a look at the Wolves roster for a second. The Wolves want to have some defense next to D Lo/Beasley. In addition, Culver/Okogie lineups don’t have enough spacing or shot creation (or at least historically haven’t) and were the Wolves worst lineups. Add in Rubio and that spacing and primary penetration ability is next to zero.

Edwards coming off the bench to start gives the second unit a much needed scorer. In addition, the Wolves want to play Edwards with Rubio who is a steady veteran, good communicator, great playmaker, and great at getting the ball to teammates in the right situations to help them succeed.

The Wolves stagger lineups and don’t do hockey switches. Edwards was in the second group on the team in minutes behind Towns, D Lo, Okogie in game 1. He, Rubio, and Beasley all averaged 25-27 minutes.

Edwards is just disqualified for Roy bc he will never start on a deep team and will not get opportunities.
This also means the number 1 pick is not as good as Beasley who plays same position as him.
First game he was on the verge of chucking glad it ended at 5/12 bc it would have been ugly.

Lmao such a small minded basketball take and shows you didn’t watch the Wolves game and have a shallow understanding of how basketball works.

SupaManu · Post #320 » by **SupaManu** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:12 am

TheZachAttack wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
TheZachAttack wrote:
I mean it’s pretty easy to understand if you just take a look at the Wolves roster for a second. The Wolves want to have some defense next to D Lo/Beasley. In addition, Culver/Okogie lineups don’t have enough spacing or shot creation (or at least historically haven’t) and were the Wolves worst lineups. Add in Rubio and that spacing and primary penetration ability is next to zero.

Edwards coming off the bench to start gives the second unit a much needed scorer. In addition, the Wolves want to play Edwards with Rubio who is a steady veteran, good communicator, great playmaker, and great at getting the ball to teammates in the right situations to help them succeed.

The Wolves stagger lineups and don’t do hockey switches. Edwards was in the second group on the team in minutes behind Towns, D Lo, Okogie in game 1. He, Rubio, and Beasley all averaged 25-27 minutes.

Edwards is just disqualified for Roy bc he will never start on a deep team and will not get opportunities.
This also means the number 1 pick is not as good as Beasley who plays same position as him.
First game he was on the verge of chucking glad it ended at 5/12 bc it would have been ugly.

Lmao such a small minded basketball take and shows you didn’t watch the Wolves game and have a shallow understanding of how basketball works.

Dudes Just trying to pump up Williams for Roy :lol:

Who are your top 3?