Around the NBA - new season chatter

Post #541 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:06 pm

Not to be a hater but there’s no synergy between Ingram and Zion really. The day of Stockton and Malone, Nash and Amar’e, Kobe-Shaq, MJ-Pippen, seems over.

Chanel Bomber · Post #542 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:07 pm

Ingram should've gone #1 over Simmons.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #543 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:07 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Not to be a hater but there’s no synergy between Ingram and Zion really. The day of Stockton and Malone, Nash and Amar’e, Kobe-Shaq, MJ-Pippen, seems over.

They'll figure it out eventually.

Chanel Bomber · Post #544 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:09 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Not to be a hater but there’s no synergy between Ingram and Zion really. The day of Stockton and Malone, Nash and Amar’e, Kobe-Shaq, MJ-Pippen, seems over.

They play two different styles of basketball, as I mentioned earlier.

One is an isolation scorer, the other is the cornerstone of a pick-and-roll offense. They're playing your turn, my turn basketball, just like Melo and Amar'e.

They can still become a contender in a few years if Zion gets a PNR partner to carve up opposing defenses. Ingram and Zion can co-exist, but they are not gonna make each other better.

Richard4444 · Post #545 » by **Richard4444** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:12 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:This Zion is still very good but I don’t think we’ll ever see Duke Zion ever again.

He is now playing against NBA players. His athletic advantage is not so huge anymore.

Post #546 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:16 pm

Zion looks like he’s about the same height as Stan.

BugginOut · Post #547 » by **BugginOut** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:17 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:This Zion is still very good but I don’t think we’ll ever see Duke Zion ever again.

He is now playing against NBA players. His athletic advantage is not so huge anymore.

Last year he averaged the exact same PPG as his duke season shooting 60% from the floor as a teenager. Is that not dominant enough lol

Post #548 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:17 pm

Z seems to make himself not a threat in the mid-range shot.

cgf · Post #549 » by **cgf** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:17 pm

Always fun to listen to Richard Jefferson be wrong about things.

TheGreenArrow · Post #550 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:18 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:This Zion is still very good but I don’t think we’ll ever see Duke Zion ever again.

He is now playing against NBA players. His athletic advantage is not so huge anymore.

Its not even that though he just seems to be more grounded than he was before.

Like even here before his meniscus injury he still had that pop..

Watch on YouTube

It’s totally gone now.

Richard4444 · Post #551 » by **Richard4444** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:18 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Achiuwa gonna break out in year 3 like Bam

He is playing like a small-ball center while Leonard stretches the floor.

Post #552 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:19 pm

I know his stats are great and he’s producing but generational with Z, I don’t see it for a couple of big reasons.

TheGreenArrow · Post #553 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:27 pm

Read on Twitter

lol so true

Chanel Bomber · Post #554 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:29 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I know his stats are great and he’s producing but generational with Z, I don’t see it for a couple of big reasons.

His weight and the lack of a jumper?

If he gets his weight under control, I think he's gonna dominate like Shaq but in the pick-and-roll instead of triangle post-ups.

Just like RJ, the pieces around him just don't fit at all (not referring to BI).

TheGreenArrow · Post #555 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:31 pm

I really like precious man.

He’s going to be a good one!!!!

Montmorencie · Post #556 » by **Montmorencie** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:34 pm

What a move. Dragic criminally underrated throughout his career. Media really don't like european players, do they?

Post #557 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:35 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:I know his stats are great and he’s producing but generational with Z, I don’t see it for a couple of big reasons.

His weight and the lack of a jumper?

If he gets his weight under control, I think he's gonna dominate like Shaq but in the pick-and-roll instead of triangle post-ups.

Just like RJ, the pieces around him just don't fit at all (not referring to BI).

Just don’t see the dominant body game or J, last two related. I wouldn’t even say he plays that much above the rim. He’s sort of a major bull with a good feel for the game and if he gets inside he’s punishing. After that I’m unsure how he’ll dominate.

I realize the Pels are the team of the moment and for some good reason. But I’m not highly confident in their greatness.

I still think Luka is much more valuable than Zion. Much much.

HEZI · Post #558 » by **HEZI** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:41 pm

What is this? Looks like Bucks just took Mavs jerseys and wrote Milwaukee on them

Post #559 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:45 pm

lol he calls Zion “Williams” ... sigh.

He is very impressive. I don’t see anything like Bron level game though. He’s a different player who won’t be easy to make your team around.

TheGreenArrow · Post #560 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:47 pm

Man curry looks done.