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Post#161 » by gflem » Thu Dec 3, 2020 11:23 pm

Harper4Ferry? wrote:so today, surely I wasn't the only one sending a profanity laced text to a friend about LeBron actually committing to his team by signing an extension. It was just me, right?

Lebron is getting old. He can't keep carpet bagging and expect to keep winning rings.
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Post#162 » by Stillwater » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:24 pm

Giannis locked up means that Bucks pick aint worth much now
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Post#163 » by jbk1234 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:28 pm

Stillwater wrote:Giannis locked up means that Bucks pick aint worth much now
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It's still the double draft year and I don't think the Cavs have a second round pick that year.

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Post#164 » by Stillwater » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:40 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Giannis locked up means that Bucks pick aint worth much now
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It's still the double draft year and I don't think the Cavs have a second round pick that year.

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true true but it would have been a whole lot better pick had he left
they have 3 2nds in 22 Hou which might be in the 30s, Washington & SAS 40s likely
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Post#165 » by JonFromVA » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:01 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Giannis locked up means that Bucks pick aint worth much now
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It's still the double draft year and I don't think the Cavs have a second round pick that year.


Injuries and melt-downs are always a possibility in the NBA.
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Post#166 » by Stillwater » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:42 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Giannis locked up means that Bucks pick aint worth much now
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It's still the double draft year and I don't think the Cavs have a second round pick that year.


Injuries and melt-downs are always a possibility in the NBA.

yeah and The Coronavirus Is Mutating
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Post#167 » by jbk1234 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:14 pm

Apparently, Foxsports OH will be available as a standalone streaming channel in January.

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/12/fox-sports-ohio-sportstime-ohio-will-be-available-as-standalone-streaming-services-in-2021-following-ballys-rebrand.html

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Post#168 » by Stillwater » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:31 pm

Dzanan Musa was waived by Det after being dumped there in a trade with Nets.
He is a really good sized sf and on ball player who can create some and knows how to
play in a system based on heavy movement so I think if that is the ultimate goal this season
as it appears to be he could be a decent rotation player on this roster from day 1.
instead of him being a nobody on a iso dominant roster like the Nets he could make some noise here
and I think they should take a flier on him immediately.
https://www.nba.com/pistons/news/detroit-pistons-waive-dzanan-musa
this is pre draft video I found and I think he was misused in BKN
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Post#169 » by jbk1234 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:15 am

Stillwater wrote:Dzanan Musa was waived by Det after being dumped there in a trade with Nets.
He is a really good sized sf and on ball player who can create some and knows how to
play in a system based on heavy movement so I think if that is the ultimate goal this season
as it appears to be he could be a decent rotation player on this roster from day 1.
instead of him being a nobody on a iso dominant roster like the Nets he could make some noise here
and I think they should take a flier on him immediately.
https://www.nba.com/pistons/news/detroit-pistons-waive-dzanan-musa
this is pre draft video I found and I think he was misused in BKN
Dude isn't coming here to fight for minutes with Nance, Okoro, Cedi and Windler. A team like the Thunder can offer him a lot more playing time.

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Post#170 » by Stillwater » Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:17 am

^ idk i mean that open competition preached by this org was the reason i would think he would be interested its not like the competition is going to be determined and end i think its pretty obvious they will employ the earn it or sit down until you do approach .
If he had no interest given the chance to compete for minutes I wouldn't want him anyway.
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Post#171 » by tleikheen » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:25 am

Musa has good potential for the right team ....... I hate the cavs being a last place team and likely to be buried at the bottom again acting like their roster is set and the minutes allocated already . When your a bottom feeder ,no jobs should be safe .
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Post#172 » by jbk1234 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:18 pm

tleikheen wrote:Musa has good potential for the right team ....... I hate the cavs being a last place team and likely to be buried at the bottom again acting like their roster is set and the minutes allocated already . When your a bottom feeder ,no jobs should be safe .


I don't think much is set with the Cavs roster. That said, Windler didn't play last year because he was held out with shin splints and the Cavs drafted Okoro who looked pretty good in preseason. Cedi was the only starter with a positive RDPM and shot 38% from 3 point range last season. If you're Musa, and you're looking for a landing spot, it's probably not with a team that already has two or three viable options at SF all of whom are younger than 26.
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Post#173 » by Stillwater » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:20 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
tleikheen wrote:Musa has good potential for the right team ....... I hate the cavs being a last place team and likely to be buried at the bottom again acting like their roster is set and the minutes allocated already . When your a bottom feeder ,no jobs should be safe .


I don't think much is set with the Cavs roster. That said, Windler didn't play last year because he was held out with shin splints and the Cavs drafted Okoro who looked pretty good in preseason. Cedi was the only starter with a positive RDPM and shot 38% from 3 point range last season. If you're Musa, and you're looking for a landing spot, it's probably not with a team that already has two or three viable options at SF all of whom are younger than 26.

I agree with that logic to some extent if Musa wasnt such a versatile 2/3 scorer with size to defend 2-4 and hes an underrated playmaker sort of like Cedi. I get your point that maybe he would rather have an easier path to minutes...
Its unlikely they go after him for those reasons but I think he is one of those players you try to get regardless
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Post#174 » by jbk1234 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:21 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:
tleikheen wrote:Musa has good potential for the right team ....... I hate the cavs being a last place team and likely to be buried at the bottom again acting like their roster is set and the minutes allocated already . When your a bottom feeder ,no jobs should be safe .


I don't think much is set with the Cavs roster. That said, Windler didn't play last year because he was held out with shin splints and the Cavs drafted Okoro who looked pretty good in preseason. Cedi was the only starter with a positive RDPM and shot 38% from 3 point range last season. If you're Musa, and you're looking for a landing spot, it's probably not with a team that already has two or three viable options at SF all of whom are younger than 26.

I agree with that logic to some extent if Musa wasnt such a versatile 2/3 scorer with size to defend 2-4 and hes an underrated playmaker sort of like Cedi. I get your point that maybe he would rather have an easier path to minutes...
Its unlikely they go after him for those reasons but I think he is one of those players you try to get regardless


Musa was just traded to, and immediately cut by, the Pistons who aren't exactly stocked with young talent. Maybe the teams who are passing on him are going to regret it, but there's a good deal of rose colored glasses syndrome when it comes to young guys who are available on the waiver wire. Nine times out of ten, they're available for a reason and the team letting that player go are doing so in favor of whoever the 15th player on their roster is. For every Danny Green, there's a100 guys that are career G League players.
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Post#175 » by Stillwater » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am

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jbk1234 wrote:
I don't think much is set with the Cavs roster. That said, Windler didn't play last year because he was held out with shin splints and the Cavs drafted Okoro who looked pretty good in preseason. Cedi was the only starter with a positive RDPM and shot 38% from 3 point range last season. If you're Musa, and you're looking for a landing spot, it's probably not with a team that already has two or three viable options at SF all of whom are younger than 26.

I agree with that logic to some extent if Musa wasnt such a versatile 2/3 scorer with size to defend 2-4 and hes an underrated playmaker sort of like Cedi. I get your point that maybe he would rather have an easier path to minutes...
Its unlikely they go after him for those reasons but I think he is one of those players you try to get regardless


Musa was just traded to, and immediately cut by, the Pistons who aren't exactly stocked with young talent. Maybe the teams who are passing on him are going to regret it, but there's a good deal of rose colored glasses syndrome when it comes to young guys who are available on the waiver wire. Nine times out of ten, they're available for a reason and the team letting that player go are doing so in favor of whoever the 15th player on their roster is. For every Danny Green, there's a100 guys that are career G League players.

absolutely I just know BKN moved him to get the defensive minded Brown and they had no room for another scorer and Det clearly never wanted him anyway after drafting Bey bringing over Syrvidis and taking a chance on Josh Jackson all in one offseason.
It might not ever be a danny green level screw up who was a lot more well rounded player when the Cavs let him go than Musa is now... but I think unless he still has trouble staying engaged with a chance to make the rotation as opposed when he never did in BKN he will definitely make them regret moving him this soon.
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Post#176 » by jbk1234 » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:31 pm

Wiseman looks legit. I think GS may actually get someone to eat Wiggins' deal if they're willing to part with him.

Also, I think that Jrue trade is going to haunt the Bucks. They just don't have enough shooters to justify spending that much to acquire a guy who can't shoot.

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Post#177 » by Stillwater » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:46 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Wiseman looks legit. I think GS may actually get someone to eat Wiggins' deal if they're willing to part with him.

Also, I think that Jrue trade is going to haunt the Bucks. They just don't have enough shooters to justify spending that much to acquire a guy who can't shoot.

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Minnesota looks pretty stupid right now
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Post#178 » by jbk1234 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:44 pm

Stillwater wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:Wiseman looks legit. I think GS may actually get someone to eat Wiggins' deal if they're willing to part with him.

Also, I think that Jrue trade is going to haunt the Bucks. They just don't have enough shooters to justify spending that much to acquire a guy who can't shoot.

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Minnesota looks pretty stupid right now
I wonder if the Cavs were willing to part with Nance to jump up to No. 1, and Minny countered with No. 17. But the Wolves could probably have Nance and Okoro, or Nance and Okongwu, or Nance and whoever.

Now, there isn't anything the Wolves could offer until after the draft that would even tempt me.

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Post#179 » by Stillwater » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:12 am

Edwards looks pretty good today so who knows but Wiseman was always the higher ceiling prospect who gets to the next level is another story
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Post#180 » by jbk1234 » Sat Jan 2, 2021 5:42 am

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