Around the League: 2020 Offseason

[eyeatoma]

The Mavs offense is really amazing for former Sixers players. Richardson has been balling. How the **** do we keep destroying these players?

[eyeatoma]

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[zaz102]

The Mavs offense is really amazing for former Sixers players. Richardson has been balling. How the **** do we keep destroying these players?

Meh, I have to see a larger sample size with Richardson. He had some awesome games as a Sixer, but then looked pretty terrible for most of his time here.

Although there has to be something to be said to be surrounded by PFs/C (Embiid, Simmons, Harris, Horford) on offense.

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[nitocobola]

The magic are 3-0. Markelle fultz 26 points in 28 minutes, 2/3 from three. LOL.

He is gonna be an all-star in two years, isn't he?

[76ciology]

The magic are 3-0. Markelle fultz 26 points in 28 minutes, 2/3 from three. LOL.

He is gonna be an all-star in two years, isn't he?

Yes and at some point he’ll be better than Tatum and specially Ben Simmons.

But not this year

[HardenToSixers]

The magic are 3-0. Markelle fultz 26 points in 28 minutes, 2/3 from three. LOL.

He is gonna be an all-star in two years, isn't he?

I’m not sure if you heard but he played poorly in college against good competition a few times, which means that it was obvious he would have a mental breakdown and his shot would fall apart, which means that there is no chance he could ever be a semi-productive player in this current state because it would somehow make this whole theory even more foolish than it currently is

[Eyeamok]

The magic are 3-0. Markelle fultz 26 points in 28 minutes, 2/3 from three. LOL.

He is gonna be an all-star in two years, isn't he?

I’m not sure if you heard but he played poorly in college against good competition a few times, which means that it was obvious he would have a mental breakdown and his shot would fall apart, which means that there is no chance he could ever be a semi-productive player in this current state because it would somehow make this whole theory even more foolish than it currently is

I'm not sure if you heard but when he played for the 76ers he really was not able or ready to contribute in a meaningful way.
He had involuntary ticks, spasms and could not even shoot free throws well. Some people said he had some obscure shoulder injury that no doctor only his agent signed off on. Me I think he just was not ready mentally to play on a team that needed him to contribute right away. Me I think he was just not ready to be a high profile NBA player. He needed a low pressure environment where nothing was expected of him and he got it. He needed years of being pampered before he was mature enough to grow into his potential and he got it.

He did play badly against good college teams. And the 76ers did waste a lot of time and capital on him which is very sad.

But it's still only 3 games into his season. Don't be to quick to crown him MIP yet.

I may sound bitter and I am but not at Fultz. Just at the FO and everything that went into Fultz being the pick and who made the pick and why he made the pick, who he traded with and what they gave up. But like they say in Frozen. "Let it go Eyeamok Let it go !"

[76ciology]

I didnt think we made a mistake in trading up and drafting Fultz. The guy we want was always been a guy like Fultz who can create on halfcourt and be a potential go-to guy. He’s a better fit with Biid, than Ben. And you can see how he compliments Vuc.

How many players in the league are two way players who can lead your offense? Tatum is a better scorer but he’s not a playmaker and a scorer like Fultz where you can pretty much give him the ball and carry or lead your offense on every possession. Any pick and roll with a big is also considered as good offense in general. If you know basketball, Fultz was the right pick.

Saying anyone can see this mental issue with Fultz is more of a hindsight bias IMO. The mistake is how we handled Fultz when things dont go as expected with him.

Yes we were patient. We could have been more patient. He was a number 1 overall pick. But then we dont know what happened behind the scenes. My guess is he really was a big distraction and as his trainer said Brett didnt want him because he wants Ben to be the lead guard (or something similar).

[Wilfried]

Strange night in the NBA:
Clippers got beaten hard
Celtics lose to the Pacers without Oladipo
Bucks lose to Knicks
Hornets get the W against Brooklyn

And we get a beating from Cleveland

[76ciology]

Strange night in the NBA:
Clippers got beaten hard
Celtics lose to the Pacers without Oladipo
Bucks lose to Knicks
Hornets get the W against Brooklyn

And we get a beating from Cleveland

Maybe NBA secretly injected the top teams with the Vaccine.

[stormi]

Markelle Fultz was a flawless prospect. As much as I love Ben, I always viewed Fultz on another level. The timeline of this team from the moment we drafted him - and everything in between, is utterly depressing

[HardenToSixers]

The magic are 3-0. Markelle fultz 26 points in 28 minutes, 2/3 from three. LOL.

He is gonna be an all-star in two years, isn't he?

I’m not sure if you heard but he played poorly in college against good competition a few times, which means that it was obvious he would have a mental breakdown and his shot would fall apart, which means that there is no chance he could ever be a semi-productive player in this current state because it would somehow make this whole theory even more foolish than it currently is

I'm not sure if you heard but when he played for the 76ers he really was not able or ready to contribute in a meaningful way.
He had involuntary ticks, spasms and could not even shoot free throws well. Some people said he had some obscure shoulder injury that no doctor only his agent signed off on. Me I think he just was not ready mentally to play on a team that needed him to contribute right away. Me I think he was just not ready to be a high profile NBA player. He needed a low pressure environment where nothing was expected of him and he got it. He needed years of being pampered before he was mature enough to grow into his potential and he got it.

He did play badly against good college teams. And the 76ers did waste a lot of time and capital on him which is very sad.

But it's still only 3 games into his season. Don't be to quick to crown him MIP yet.

I may sound bitter and I am but not at Fultz. Just at the FO and everything that went into Fultz being the pick and who made the pick and why he made the pick, who he traded with and what they gave up. But like they say in Frozen. "Let it go Eyeamok Let it go !"

My whole post was sarcasm at people who say that because his free throw percentage was bad or because he didn’t show up in a few college games they knew he would lose his shot so I’m not really sure what you’re agreeing to or not.

I didn’t like the Fultz trade at the time because I thought it was too many eggs in one basket and I was also skeptical of his ball dominance and shooting profile.

In hindsight, the rest of his game outside of the shooting developed fairly well and honestly I think we would’ve had a pretty good player on our hands if he didn’t fall apart but we’ll never know.

I still think it was a bad bet at the time and an inefficient use of resources and not diversifying enough given the position we were in at the time. I also think it would’ve been extremely prudent to try pairing Simmons with another ball dominant guard JUST ONCE before deciding to sink so much in an investment on that type of player, and cannot figure out for the life of me why in 4 years they refuse to fill that role on the team to get a datapoint on how Simmons looks next to a semi-talented, normal PG for a longer stretch.

Finally, I think the Fultz contract was trash and his shot is permanently busted with that form. I agree that most success is fool’s gold. To be a role playing PG like that you need to either be able to play defense or shoot at a high level and he won’t be able to do either. That said, he’s at least a functional NBA player so good for him. He’s shown some good mental resilience despite what some of the losers on this board will say about him.

[Eyeamok]

I’m not sure if you heard but he played poorly in college against good competition a few times, which means that it was obvious he would have a mental breakdown and his shot would fall apart, which means that there is no chance he could ever be a semi-productive player in this current state because it would somehow make this whole theory even more foolish than it currently is

I'm not sure if you heard but when he played for the 76ers he really was not able or ready to contribute in a meaningful way.
He had involuntary ticks, spasms and could not even shoot free throws well. Some people said he had some obscure shoulder injury that no doctor only his agent signed off on. Me I think he just was not ready mentally to play on a team that needed him to contribute right away. Me I think he was just not ready to be a high profile NBA player. He needed a low pressure environment where nothing was expected of him and he got it. He needed years of being pampered before he was mature enough to grow into his potential and he got it.

He did play badly against good college teams. And the 76ers did waste a lot of time and capital on him which is very sad.

But it's still only 3 games into his season. Don't be to quick to crown him MIP yet.

I may sound bitter and I am but not at Fultz. Just at the FO and everything that went into Fultz being the pick and who made the pick and why he made the pick, who he traded with and what they gave up. But like they say in Frozen. "Let it go Eyeamok Let it go !"

My whole post was sarcasm at people who say that because his free throw percentage was bad or because he didn’t show up in a few college games they knew he would lose his shot so I’m not really sure what you’re agreeing to or not.

I didn’t like the Fultz trade at the time because I thought it was too many eggs in one basket and I was also skeptical of his ball dominance and shooting profile.

In hindsight, the rest of his game outside of the shooting developed fairly well and honestly I think we would’ve had a pretty good player on our hands if he didn’t fall apart but we’ll never know.

I still think it was a bad bet at the time and an inefficient use of resources and not diversifying enough given the position we were in at the time. I also think it would’ve been extremely prudent to try pairing Simmons with another ball dominant guard JUST ONCE before deciding to sink so much in an investment on that type of player, and cannot figure out for the life of me why in 4 years they refuse to fill that role on the team to get a datapoint on how Simmons looks next to a semi-talented, normal PG for a longer stretch.

Finally, I think the Fultz contract was trash and his shot is permanently busted with that form. I agree that most success is fool’s gold. To be a role playing PG like that you need to either be able to play defense or shoot at a high level and he won’t be able to do either. That said, he’s at least a functional NBA player so good for him. He’s shown some good mental resilience despite what some of the losers on this board will say about him.

I agree with a lot of what you had to say. And 1 for you mate. Just one of those days after a bad loss. I was just venting.

[Monix]

Strange night in the NBA:
Clippers got beaten hard
Celtics lose to the Pacers without Oladipo
Bucks lose to Knicks
Hornets get the W against Brooklyn

And we get a beating from Cleveland

I'll add Frank Kaminsky drops 11 off the bench vs the Kings 2 weeks after they released him - in a Suns win

he's still pretty terrible, but a funny revenge game nonetheless

[zaz102]

I'm not sure if you heard but when he played for the 76ers he really was not able or ready to contribute in a meaningful way.
He had involuntary ticks, spasms and could not even shoot free throws well. Some people said he had some obscure shoulder injury that no doctor only his agent signed off on. Me I think he just was not ready mentally to play on a team that needed him to contribute right away. Me I think he was just not ready to be a high profile NBA player. He needed a low pressure environment where nothing was expected of him and he got it. He needed years of being pampered before he was mature enough to grow into his potential and he got it.

He did play badly against good college teams. And the 76ers did waste a lot of time and capital on him which is very sad.

But it's still only 3 games into his season. Don't be to quick to crown him MIP yet.

I may sound bitter and I am but not at Fultz. Just at the FO and everything that went into Fultz being the pick and who made the pick and why he made the pick, who he traded with and what they gave up. But like they say in Frozen. "Let it go Eyeamok Let it go !"

My whole post was sarcasm at people who say that because his free throw percentage was bad or because he didn’t show up in a few college games they knew he would lose his shot so I’m not really sure what you’re agreeing to or not.

I didn’t like the Fultz trade at the time because I thought it was too many eggs in one basket and I was also skeptical of his ball dominance and shooting profile.

In hindsight, the rest of his game outside of the shooting developed fairly well and honestly I think we would’ve had a pretty good player on our hands if he didn’t fall apart but we’ll never know.

I still think it was a bad bet at the time and an inefficient use of resources and not diversifying enough given the position we were in at the time. I also think it would’ve been extremely prudent to try pairing Simmons with another ball dominant guard JUST ONCE before deciding to sink so much in an investment on that type of player, and cannot figure out for the life of me why in 4 years they refuse to fill that role on the team to get a datapoint on how Simmons looks next to a semi-talented, normal PG for a longer stretch.

Finally, I think the Fultz contract was trash and his shot is permanently busted with that form. I agree that most success is fool’s gold. To be a role playing PG like that you need to either be able to play defense or shoot at a high level and he won’t be able to do either. That said, he’s at least a functional NBA player so good for him. He’s shown some good mental resilience despite what some of the losers on this board will say about him.

I agree with a lot of what you had to say. And 1 for you mate. Just one of those days after a bad loss. I was just venting.

This is a bitter post lol.

I get GM is a difficult job, but I found it funny how the Sixers made so many moves to pair with Simmons & Embiid with a third star and looks like they have to sacrifice one of the two in order to get a "second" star. And to think what they had Butler, Fultz, and a bunch of good role players/assets and they ended up with Harris.

Hell just compare how they gave up assets to get rid of Fultz and more to get Harris when they could of just kept Fultz on a smaller contract.

Thankfully I have faith in Morey to get the best of what we have left.

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[rzzzzz]

Fultz's shot was totally broken. but he still roamed the court real well. that's important. and he was determined to figure out/develop whatever he had to get his shooting percentage up. another guy Embiid really liked we got rid of. (Now all we need is for Zhaire to explode down in Memphis. Just kidding.)

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[cksdayoff]

markelle fultz is going to be one of the best guards in the league in a couple of years. wish we still had him

[Negrodamus]

I didn't really understand the Fultz trade aside from the obvious toxic aspect behind it. That clip still shows what I've always said about him, he's an elite passing PG. One of the evaluations I recall from watching his tape is that he's always under control as he gets into the paint and is able to make elite reactionary decisions. It's still ringing true right now. I can see him eventually being a 15 ppg and 10 apg given he's surrounded by the right type of players.

I don't know what truly happened behind closed doors but it's unfortunate we had to move on. Definitely needed to decide between Ben and Markelle before the end of Fultz's first contract.

[76ciology]

markelle fultz is going to be one of the best guards in the league in a couple of years. wish we still had him

Last time you posted was more than a year ago, friend. Glad to see you here