Stat of the day: Kelly Oubre 0/31 on non-dunks (He finally hit a three)

hyper316 · Post #61 » by **hyper316** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:22 pm

Replacement for Klay Thompson...

Peregrine01 · Post #62 » by **Peregrine01** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:27 pm

He's been brutal on offense. Not only is he missing wide open jumpers but he's forcing stuff, driving into 3 guys and turning it over.

Still, he plays with great energy and has been a clear positive on defense. That's a lot more than can be said about Wiggins.

taikibansei · Post #63 » by **taikibansei** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:42 pm

Muha_i_samolet wrote:Oubre: scoring efficient 18.7 in Phoenix last season. Goes to Gsw, plays with the best PG ever in Curry - scores 5.7, has significantly more turnovers... Gravity, I guess.

Player gravity just means that the other players are getting wide open shots; this is happening. Oubre and Wiggins are both missing multiple wide-open shots each game.

The Warriors are the second-worst team in the NBA when it comes to connecting on “wide-open” shots. Over 25 percent of the Warriors’ shots have been wide open. At 25.8 percent, they have the fourth-highest percentage in the NBA. The looks are there; they just aren’t making them.

https://bluemanhoop.com/2020/12/27/golden-state-warriors-issues-resolved-shots/

Sersiously, nobody who actually has watched the Warriors play this season could blame Curry at this point. Gravity doesn't matter when your teammates shoot like this:

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As I've posted before, even LeBron James knew he couldn't win with Andrew Wiggins--which is why he had Wiggins traded for Kevin Love. While Oubre at least tries, he can't hit the side of a barn right now. Not sure how this is all Curry's fault, though.

Post #64 » by **HMFFL** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:47 pm

He adds to why Golden State have themselves in a difficult situation. They had no control of Klay but they reached trying to improve after Klay's injury.

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Balllin · Post #65 » by **Balllin** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:58 pm

Curry's gravity is so strong, it clearly affects the ball's flight path.

WAKE UP, PEOPLE!1111!

Sgt Major · Post #66 » by **Sgt Major** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:00 pm

darmani · Post #67 » by **darmani** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:06 pm

Read on Twitter

Beetlejuice · Post #68 » by **Beetlejuice** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:09 pm

Jimmy Recard wrote:I always liked his energy in DC but he’s never been a particularly good basketball player. Great athlete, motor and competitor, he’s fine in a bench role coming in for 20 mins a night and proving energy and some highlight plays, but he shouldn’t be starting on a team with playoff/finals aspirations. There’s a reason why Phx got a lot better without him in the bubble last season, and why they didn’t lose any sleep trading him.

He’s not good enough as a shooter or cutter to be effective off the ball, and when he does have the ball and is asked to create something, he’ll more often than not make the wrong decision. His defense is overrated. He’s a pest that can get some deflections here and there, but overall he’s a net negative on that end because of his low bball iq.

This ! Felt excatly this as a suns fan. I was annoyed most of the games he took part at. Not a player a playoff team should aspire to acquire.

Basketball intelligence issues- would avoid, might fall lightyears behind.

JRoy · Post #69 » by **JRoy** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:12 pm

Fools gold

Pattycakes · Post #70 » by **Pattycakes** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:17 pm

Thanks Bin Laden

slicedbread2 · Post #71 » by **slicedbread2** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:28 pm

Fo-Real wrote:
PharmD wrote:
Muha_i_samolet wrote:Oubre: scoring efficient 18.7 in Phoenix last season. Goes to Gsw, plays with the best PG ever in Curry - scores 5.7, has significantly more turnovers... Gravity, I guess.

Ricky Rubio is a much better passer than Curry. That's why he was drafted higher.

Ricky Rubio also got Andrew Wiggins a max contract.

Rubio + Booker were one of the best duo assisting backcourts last year. Oubre just seemed to fit the Suns chemistry and not so much the one in Golden State so far. Kelly allowed us to realize we could move on from Warren and could stop hoping Josh Jackson would stop being a dumb ass!!

It still baffles me that the Suns gave away Warren for nothing. I understood that they badly needed the cap space to sign Rubio since they haven't had a decent point guard since Dragic, but I thought they could've gotten 1-2 1st round picks or a 1st+multiple 2nds. It twas poor asset management at that point though I'm still startled the Suns blew 3 lotto picks in a row on Bender, Chriss and Jackson. Instead the Pacers got 3 2nds and the Suns even gave up KZ Okpala who was their 32nd pick to Miami.

I like Oubre and he's not bad, but holy crap! Him and Wiggins are the brick bros who could rebuild San Francisco and Oakland one brick at a time. It's startling how much luxury tax the W's will have to pay b/c of Oubre's deal which was acquired via the Iggy TPE. Good thing their pick is top 20 pro. and they'll only give up MIN's 2nd plus if the T-Wolves fall flat like history suggests, they may have 2 picks in the lottery which could help with the future with Wiseman. At this point if things don't improve, I'd expect the W's to trade him for a bad contract and get more picks if things continue as they are.

W's and Steph had a nice run with some titles in the rafters, but after Klay's injury if may be time to pave a new path to the future.

NoZoLakers · Post #72 » by **NoZoLakers** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:32 pm

gsw is paying 30M+ (salary+tax) for this guy.....lights yrs ahead indeed by gsw mgmt

Mirotic12 · Post #73 » by **Mirotic12** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:58 pm

I've been watching him in these games.....I honestly don't think he could make the roster of a FIBA Champions League team (2nd/3rd tier level of Europe).

I've never seen a pro level player (in any league) miss so many easy shots.

Topofthekey · Post #74 » by **Topofthekey** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:00 pm

He's a bench player, and not a terribly good one at that

dhsilv2 · Post #75 » by **dhsilv2** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:03 pm

HMFFL wrote:He's adds to why Golden State have out themselves in a difficult situation. They had no control of Klay but they reached trying to improve after Klay's injury.

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On paper he makes sense even with klay. He's long, athletic, and last year hit 35% from 3. They need a guy to play instead of Wiggins in other words...or as a rotation guy.

Mirotic12 · Post #76 » by **Mirotic12** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:04 pm

Ice Trae wrote:Poor man's Wiggins

More like poor man's Josh Childress.

Biff · Post #77 » by **Biff** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:03 pm

Ice Trae wrote:Poor man's Wiggins

He was better for us last year than Wiggins has been for years. Wiggins has more talent but plays with absolutely zero fire. Oubre, while streaky, plays much much harder and leaves it all on the floor.

He'll come out of the slump at some point and it'll be pretty apparent that he's more valuable than Wiggins.

Biff · Post #78 » by **Biff** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:05 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
Ice Trae wrote:Poor man's Wiggins

More like poor man's Josh Childress.

He's not even close to the same player as Childress. Wiggins is more accurate, though not very accurate either.

GrindCityHustle · Post #79 » by **GrindCityHustle** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:07 pm

Memphis will give u Brooks

Both have stunk and need a change of scenery.

HabsAndDubs · Post #80 » by **HabsAndDubs** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:41 pm

NoZoLakers wrote:gsw is paying 30M+ (salary+tax) for this guy.....lights yrs ahead indeed by gsw mgmt

It’s actually $64 million I believe.

Oubre’s slump isn’t about any holes in his game or shortcomings with regards to the type of player he is, he’s simply snake bitten. He’s missing tons of wide open shots, bricking literally everything from everywhere; these aren’t things you can really adjust for, he just needs to start hitting those open shots because that’s what professional basketball players should do. And eventually he will, because he’s gotten this far.

He’s still explosive at the rim and he’s solid on defence, so I think the rest will come. Glad to see he’s still chucking up shots even after going 0- a million, eventually they’ll start sinking.