Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock

[nitetrain8603]

Are you guys really drinking the pace/naggy/trubisky kool aid after a few hollow wins beating up on some sorry teams?

Bears fans I'm sorry but you do it to yourselves, buying this late season run as an indicator that the offense has turned a corner is exactly how you wind up with the all-time worst historic QB play in the entire NFL.

Don't believe the hype, Pace has had 5 years to put together a non bottom 10 offense, Trubisky has had 4 seasons to prove himself as a starter and Naggy has had 3 seasons to design a functional offense around Trubisky and instead of going off of the pathetic long term performances you guys want to bring the band back together because they strung together a couple wins against some bad teams.

This is run is a text book example of being a day late and a dollar short, I wouldn't accept this crappy last minute rush job essay and would issue them all their well deserved failing grades at this point, no extensions no extra credit.

Ok, what's your plan?

I watch sports to be entertained and to root for my teams. Before Mitch came back I was 100% down with firing Nagy because it was 100% clear that he was struggling to scheme up a good offense with a serious lack of regard for the running game. He stepped back, let Lazor take over and since then we've seen Montomgery play like a pro bowler, the offensive line (which was ravaged by injuries AND a COVID outbreak) has stabilized and they've utilized Mitch in a way that plays to his strengths.

It looks similar to the 2018 offense that Mitch led, except Montgomery is better than Howard and Graham is a better red zone threat as well.

Nobody is saying Mitch is a Rodgers/Mahomes level player - he's clearly in that Cousins/Tannehill/Alex Smith level and it would be smart to sign him to stabilize the position so that this is our baseline going forward. The grass is always greener especially when you see Rodgers/Mahomes on the TV every week but Mitch isn't Cade McNown, Rex Grossman or even Jay Cutler.

+1. Exactly my thoughts. When judging bears quarterbacks, its future to compare them against the rest of the league's qbs. You have to compare them against the history of bears qbs. Trubisky is neither a bad qb nor a great qb.

I'm sorry, but this is the absolute wrong way to look at a team, a position, and say you want championships. The Bears are not playing against their historical teams. They are playing against current NFL. They are playing against the current Packers, current Saints, current Lions, etc. Being better than piss poor players in the franchise is nothing that should be celebrated or commended. Regardless if the Bears make the playoffs or not, Trubisky is a piss poor QB who can't read a defense, throw a deep ball, and needs the field cut off to cut down on mistakes.

No team will ever win a Super Bowl or even consistently make the playoffs with Trubisky as their starting QB. You need to decide what you want from your team.

[Susan]

Ok, what's your plan?

I watch sports to be entertained and to root for my teams. Before Mitch came back I was 100% down with firing Nagy because it was 100% clear that he was struggling to scheme up a good offense with a serious lack of regard for the running game. He stepped back, let Lazor take over and since then we've seen Montomgery play like a pro bowler, the offensive line (which was ravaged by injuries AND a COVID outbreak) has stabilized and they've utilized Mitch in a way that plays to his strengths.

It looks similar to the 2018 offense that Mitch led, except Montgomery is better than Howard and Graham is a better red zone threat as well.

Nobody is saying Mitch is a Rodgers/Mahomes level player - he's clearly in that Cousins/Tannehill/Alex Smith level and it would be smart to sign him to stabilize the position so that this is our baseline going forward. The grass is always greener especially when you see Rodgers/Mahomes on the TV every week but Mitch isn't Cade McNown, Rex Grossman or even Jay Cutler.

+1. Exactly my thoughts. When judging bears quarterbacks, its future to compare them against the rest of the league's qbs. You have to compare them against the history of bears qbs. Trubisky is neither a bad qb nor a great qb.

I'm sorry, but this is the absolute wrong way to look at a team, a position, and say you want championships. The Bears are not playing against their historical teams. They are playing against current NFL. They are playing against the current Packers, current Saints, current Lions, etc. Being better than piss poor players in the franchise is nothing that should be celebrated or commended. Regardless if the Bears make the playoffs or not, Trubisky is a piss poor QB who can't read a defense, throw a deep ball, and needs the field cut off to cut down on mistakes.

No team will ever win a Super Bowl or even consistently make the playoffs with Trubisky as their starting QB. You need to decide what you want from your team.

Mitch is on the cusp of making the playoffs 2/3 years right now. Eli Manning has 2 rings, Joe Flacco won a ring, Nick Foles won a ring, Jimmy G and Jared Goff are the last two QBs to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

Nobody is saying Mitch is a guy who's at Rodgers or Mahomes' level, but IMO, the best way to maybe get one of those guys is to keep Mitch and treat him how SF and KC treated Alex Smith. Make the playoffs fairly often, have a pretty good offense be your baseline (2018 they were pretty good and this year they've been pretty good when he's been on the field) and take a swing on a QB in the draft that you can develop properly.

Getting rid of Mitch leaves you with Foles and then forces you into drafting a QB this year and you'l probably be desperate to play him early. It's a bad cycle that leads to a lot of losses and really hasn't worked out for too many teams.

[Dresden]

Ok, what's your plan?

I watch sports to be entertained and to root for my teams. Before Mitch came back I was 100% down with firing Nagy because it was 100% clear that he was struggling to scheme up a good offense with a serious lack of regard for the running game. He stepped back, let Lazor take over and since then we've seen Montomgery play like a pro bowler, the offensive line (which was ravaged by injuries AND a COVID outbreak) has stabilized and they've utilized Mitch in a way that plays to his strengths.

It looks similar to the 2018 offense that Mitch led, except Montgomery is better than Howard and Graham is a better red zone threat as well.

Nobody is saying Mitch is a Rodgers/Mahomes level player - he's clearly in that Cousins/Tannehill/Alex Smith level and it would be smart to sign him to stabilize the position so that this is our baseline going forward. The grass is always greener especially when you see Rodgers/Mahomes on the TV every week but Mitch isn't Cade McNown, Rex Grossman or even Jay Cutler.

+1. Exactly my thoughts. When judging bears quarterbacks, its future to compare them against the rest of the league's qbs. You have to compare them against the history of bears qbs. Trubisky is neither a bad qb nor a great qb.

I'm sorry, but this is the absolute wrong way to look at a team, a position, and say you want championships. The Bears are not playing against their historical teams. They are playing against current NFL. They are playing against the current Packers, current Saints, current Lions, etc. Being better than piss poor players in the franchise is nothing that should be celebrated or commended. Regardless if the Bears make the playoffs or not, Trubisky is a piss poor QB who can't read a defense, throw a deep ball, and needs the field cut off to cut down on mistakes.

No team will ever win a Super Bowl or even consistently make the playoffs with Trubisky as their starting QB. You need to decide what you want from your team.

I think you're being a little too hard on Mitch. His passer rating is over 100 the past 4 weeks. He's shown he can do a lot of things these past weeks that it seemed like he couldn't before. Maybe a lot of his struggles did have to do with play calling, or the O line, or lack of a running game. I'm far from being sold on him as a franchise QB, but it seems like he's at least showing a lot of improvement, so it would be dumb to just give up on him at this point, esp. since we don't have any better alternatives.

It could just be playing agains bad defenses that have made him look so much better. Very possible. We'll find a little bit tomorrow. But it doesn't seem like there is much to lose by keeping him next year, if we can get him on a reasonable deal, and see how he plays. We'd all love to have a HOF QB, how exactly do you plan on getting that? And what do you do in the meantime? At least Mitch is showing he can win games for you. 4 games in a row with 30+ points- no Bears team has done that in 55 years. Thats' not something to blithely just piss away.

[nitetrain8603]

+1. Exactly my thoughts. When judging bears quarterbacks, its future to compare them against the rest of the league's qbs. You have to compare them against the history of bears qbs. Trubisky is neither a bad qb nor a great qb.

I'm sorry, but this is the absolute wrong way to look at a team, a position, and say you want championships. The Bears are not playing against their historical teams. They are playing against current NFL. They are playing against the current Packers, current Saints, current Lions, etc. Being better than piss poor players in the franchise is nothing that should be celebrated or commended. Regardless if the Bears make the playoffs or not, Trubisky is a piss poor QB who can't read a defense, throw a deep ball, and needs the field cut off to cut down on mistakes.

No team will ever win a Super Bowl or even consistently make the playoffs with Trubisky as their starting QB. You need to decide what you want from your team.

Mitch is on the cusp of making the playoffs 2/3 years right now. Eli Manning has 2 rings, Joe Flacco won a ring, Nick Foles won a ring, Jimmy G and Jared Goff are the last two QBs to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

Nobody is saying Mitch is a guy who's at Rodgers or Mahomes' level, but IMO, the best way to maybe get one of those guys is to keep Mitch and treat him how SF and KC treated Alex Smith. Make the playoffs fairly often, have a pretty good offense be your baseline (2018 they were pretty good and this year they've been pretty good when he's been on the field) and take a swing on a QB in the draft that you can develop properly.

Getting rid of Mitch leaves you with Foles and then forces you into drafting a QB this year and you'l probably be desperate to play him early. It's a bad cycle that leads to a lot of losses and really hasn't worked out for too many teams.

Okay, I can play that game. Foles won a Super Bowl. You have him on your roster taking up a huge cap number. Why wouldn't you just keep him? He at least showed you he could perform. Joe Flacco won a ring, got paid and that contract was immediately regretted. Eli Manning is an outlier. Could perform in the playoffs and was slightly above average elsewhere. Trubisky is not even slightly above average. If you want 4 games against terrible defense shadow 3-4 seasons of horrendous play and pay a man, I think you're nuts. Jimmy G hasn't won anything and also, a bit better than Trubisky. And there is talk that SF might move on from him. Jared Goff is also a QB taking up too much cap space and a hindrance to his team competing. His play is also bad.

Want to go deeper. The Jaguars a few years ago let half a season from Blake Bortles dictate them giving him a large extension. Immediately, they regretted it.

Extending Trubisky is a way to continue horrendous cap and asset management.

[nitetrain8603]

+1. Exactly my thoughts. When judging bears quarterbacks, its future to compare them against the rest of the league's qbs. You have to compare them against the history of bears qbs. Trubisky is neither a bad qb nor a great qb.

I'm sorry, but this is the absolute wrong way to look at a team, a position, and say you want championships. The Bears are not playing against their historical teams. They are playing against current NFL. They are playing against the current Packers, current Saints, current Lions, etc. Being better than piss poor players in the franchise is nothing that should be celebrated or commended. Regardless if the Bears make the playoffs or not, Trubisky is a piss poor QB who can't read a defense, throw a deep ball, and needs the field cut off to cut down on mistakes.

No team will ever win a Super Bowl or even consistently make the playoffs with Trubisky as their starting QB. You need to decide what you want from your team.

I think you're being a little too hard on Mitch. His passer rating is over 100 the past 4 weeks. He's shown he can do a lot of things these past weeks that it seemed like he couldn't before. Maybe a lot of his struggles did have to do with play calling, or the O line, or lack of a running game. I'm far from being sold on him as a franchise QB, but it seems like he's at least showing a lot of improvement, so it would be dumb to just give up on him at this point, esp. since we don't have any better alternatives.

It could just be playing agains bad defenses that have made him look so much better. Very possible. We'll find a little bit tomorrow. But it doesn't seem like there is much to lose by keeping him next year, if we can get him on a reasonable deal, and see how he plays. We'd all love to have a HOF QB, how exactly do you plan on getting that? And what do you do in the meantime? At least Mitch is showing he can win games for you. 4 games in a row with 30+ points- no Bears team has done that in 55 years. Thats' not something to blithely just piss away.

I'm really not. But Bears fans can't have it both ways. You either want the Super Bowl or you want to keep a mediocre QB on your squad and not win one. Period.

Trubisky is a nice guy. There's also nice people who work on my local target. It doesn't make either one qualified for a starting QB position in the NFL and I would not pay either one 20 million plus.

[Chi town]

+1. Exactly my thoughts. When judging bears quarterbacks, its future to compare them against the rest of the league's qbs. You have to compare them against the history of bears qbs. Trubisky is neither a bad qb nor a great qb.

I'm sorry, but this is the absolute wrong way to look at a team, a position, and say you want championships. The Bears are not playing against their historical teams. They are playing against current NFL. They are playing against the current Packers, current Saints, current Lions, etc. Being better than piss poor players in the franchise is nothing that should be celebrated or commended. Regardless if the Bears make the playoffs or not, Trubisky is a piss poor QB who can't read a defense, throw a deep ball, and needs the field cut off to cut down on mistakes.

No team will ever win a Super Bowl or even consistently make the playoffs with Trubisky as their starting QB. You need to decide what you want from your team.

Mitch is on the cusp of making the playoffs 2/3 years right now. Eli Manning has 2 rings, Joe Flacco won a ring, Nick Foles won a ring, Jimmy G and Jared Goff are the last two QBs to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

Nobody is saying Mitch is a guy who's at Rodgers or Mahomes' level, but IMO, the best way to maybe get one of those guys is to keep Mitch and treat him how SF and KC treated Alex Smith. Make the playoffs fairly often, have a pretty good offense be your baseline (2018 they were pretty good and this year they've been pretty good when he's been on the field) and take a swing on a QB in the draft that you can develop properly.

Getting rid of Mitch leaves you with Foles and then forces you into drafting a QB this year and you'l probably be desperate to play him early. It's a bad cycle that leads to a lot of losses and really hasn't worked out for too many teams.

This is where I’m at. I don’t trust Pace getting us a QB. He’s damn good at drafting in the middle rounds though. If we don’t have to use draft capital for a QB I think we could be loaded next season with another strong draft.

Don’t forget we are missing James Daniels and Tarik Cohen all year.

Nagy has finally changed the scheme to fit Mitch’s strengths and look at that... 30 points each game and big win in time of possession. This is so similar to Boylen and BillyD. Play to your players strengths.

I don’t think Mitch will cost a ton either. Unless he goes on a SB run. You could resign AROb and franchise Mitch but I think you could do a much cheaper 1 year deal with big incentives for Mitch.

[Dresden]

The usual rout of ND in a big game is underway. AL goes down the field on its first possession without even going to third down.

[Dresden]

I'm sorry, but this is the absolute wrong way to look at a team, a position, and say you want championships. The Bears are not playing against their historical teams. They are playing against current NFL. They are playing against the current Packers, current Saints, current Lions, etc. Being better than piss poor players in the franchise is nothing that should be celebrated or commended. Regardless if the Bears make the playoffs or not, Trubisky is a piss poor QB who can't read a defense, throw a deep ball, and needs the field cut off to cut down on mistakes.

No team will ever win a Super Bowl or even consistently make the playoffs with Trubisky as their starting QB. You need to decide what you want from your team.

I think you're being a little too hard on Mitch. His passer rating is over 100 the past 4 weeks. He's shown he can do a lot of things these past weeks that it seemed like he couldn't before. Maybe a lot of his struggles did have to do with play calling, or the O line, or lack of a running game. I'm far from being sold on him as a franchise QB, but it seems like he's at least showing a lot of improvement, so it would be dumb to just give up on him at this point, esp. since we don't have any better alternatives.

It could just be playing agains bad defenses that have made him look so much better. Very possible. We'll find a little bit tomorrow. But it doesn't seem like there is much to lose by keeping him next year, if we can get him on a reasonable deal, and see how he plays. We'd all love to have a HOF QB, how exactly do you plan on getting that? And what do you do in the meantime? At least Mitch is showing he can win games for you. 4 games in a row with 30+ points- no Bears team has done that in 55 years. Thats' not something to blithely just piss away.

I'm really not. But Bears fans can't have it both ways. You either want the Super Bowl or you want to keep a mediocre QB on your squad and not win one. Period.

Trubisky is a nice guy. There's also nice people who work on my local target. It doesn't make either one qualified for a starting QB position in the NFL and I would not pay either one 20 million plus.

For one thing, I don't think you can know yet that Mitch can't become a QB that can lead you to a super bowl. He has shown a great deal of improvement recently. For a second thing, what's your plan for getting such a QB? I'd love to get a better QB, I just don't see a plausible way to do that.

[Dresden]

14-0 Alabama. They go 97 yards on their second possession, again without ever getting to a third down.

[Dresden]

Boy is whichever team that drafts Devonte Smith going to be happy. That guy is some kind of quick. He's got 4 catches, 93 yards, two TD's and thats' on only 3 Alabama possessions.

[Susan]

I'm sorry, but this is the absolute wrong way to look at a team, a position, and say you want championships. The Bears are not playing against their historical teams. They are playing against current NFL. They are playing against the current Packers, current Saints, current Lions, etc. Being better than piss poor players in the franchise is nothing that should be celebrated or commended. Regardless if the Bears make the playoffs or not, Trubisky is a piss poor QB who can't read a defense, throw a deep ball, and needs the field cut off to cut down on mistakes.

No team will ever win a Super Bowl or even consistently make the playoffs with Trubisky as their starting QB. You need to decide what you want from your team.

Mitch is on the cusp of making the playoffs 2/3 years right now. Eli Manning has 2 rings, Joe Flacco won a ring, Nick Foles won a ring, Jimmy G and Jared Goff are the last two QBs to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

Nobody is saying Mitch is a guy who's at Rodgers or Mahomes' level, but IMO, the best way to maybe get one of those guys is to keep Mitch and treat him how SF and KC treated Alex Smith. Make the playoffs fairly often, have a pretty good offense be your baseline (2018 they were pretty good and this year they've been pretty good when he's been on the field) and take a swing on a QB in the draft that you can develop properly.

Getting rid of Mitch leaves you with Foles and then forces you into drafting a QB this year and you'l probably be desperate to play him early. It's a bad cycle that leads to a lot of losses and really hasn't worked out for too many teams.

Okay, I can play that game. Foles won a Super Bowl. You have him on your roster taking up a huge cap number. Why wouldn't you just keep him? He at least showed you he could perform. Joe Flacco won a ring, got paid and that contract was immediately regretted. Eli Manning is an outlier. Could perform in the playoffs and was slightly above average elsewhere. Trubisky is not even slightly above average. If you want 4 games against terrible defense shadow 3-4 seasons of horrendous play and pay a man, I think you're nuts. Jimmy G hasn't won anything and also, a bit better than Trubisky. And there is talk that SF might move on from him. Jared Goff is also a QB taking up too much cap space and a hindrance to his team competing. His play is also bad.

Want to go deeper. The Jaguars a few years ago let half a season from Blake Bortles dictate them giving him a large extension. Immediately, they regretted it.

Extending Trubisky is a way to continue horrendous cap and asset management.

So Baltimore should have let Flacco walk? The Ravens were 96-67 with Flacco starting and having him on the roster allowed them to draft, sit and develop their next QB in Lamar.
Foles is taking up $12m this year, $4m next year. You do understand that this is not a massive contract, don't you?
Bortles got 3/$54, if they gave Mitch that contract I'd be happy considering the current going rate for a starting level QB.

You're being overly hyperbolic, Mitch is not horrendous but you're welcome to keep that thought as long as you want. I've stated my reasoning why I think it would be smart to retain Mitch and given examples of franchises who were able to keep a steady QB and upgrade the position through the draft + sitting/developing over time. Going back to square one would be a mistake IMO.

[dice]

+1. Exactly my thoughts. When judging bears quarterbacks, its future to compare them against the rest of the league's qbs. You have to compare them against the history of bears qbs. Trubisky is neither a bad qb nor a great qb.

I'm sorry, but this is the absolute wrong way to look at a team, a position, and say you want championships. The Bears are not playing against their historical teams. They are playing against current NFL. They are playing against the current Packers, current Saints, current Lions, etc. Being better than piss poor players in the franchise is nothing that should be celebrated or commended. Regardless if the Bears make the playoffs or not, Trubisky is a piss poor QB who can't read a defense, throw a deep ball, and needs the field cut off to cut down on mistakes.

No team will ever win a Super Bowl or even consistently make the playoffs with Trubisky as their starting QB. You need to decide what you want from your team.

I think you're being a little too hard on Mitch. His passer rating is over 100 the past 4 weeks. He's shown he can do a lot of things these past weeks that it seemed like he couldn't before. Maybe a lot of his struggles did have to do with play calling, or the O line, or lack of a running game. I'm far from being sold on him as a franchise QB, but it seems like he's at least showing a lot of improvement, so it would be dumb to just give up on him at this point, esp. since we don't have any better alternatives.

It could just be playing agains bad defenses that have made him look so much better. Very possible. We'll find a little bit tomorrow. But it doesn't seem like there is much to lose by keeping him next year, if we can get him on a reasonable deal, and see how he plays. We'd all love to have a HOF QB, how exactly do you plan on getting that? And what do you do in the meantime? At least Mitch is showing he can win games for you. 4 games in a row with 30+ points- no Bears team has done that in 55 years. Thats' not something to blithely just piss away.

again, mitch had an even better stretch in 2008...against better defenses. nick foles has obviously had better stretches. didn't stop either one of them from being placed on the trash heap in the interim

pay trubisky this offseason and he'll be without his two favorite targets next season (robinson and graham). either way, not likely to see many 30+ point games going forward

[Dresden]

Justin Fields was really impressive yesterday. He looks better to me than Trevor Lawrence. He had two perfect throws on deep balls. Lawrence looks like the kind of player who looks great when his team is blowing somebody out, but when he faces a tough defense like Ohio State's, he seems a lot less perfect. I know he still put up 400 yards in the game, but he just didn't control the game when they needed him too, unlike Justin Fields.

That back from Ohio was something else, too- Trey Sermon. I'm surprised he's been a back up for most of the year. He was running with authority last night.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Was really nice to see Ohio State win and getting to watch Dabo choke on his own words last night. If there was ever a moment of sports karma, that was it.

Fields with a gutsy performance, one he really needed. He was horrid against Northwestern and many mocks had him dropping, had a 4:5 TD to INT ratio over the last couple games. I was secretly hoping he would drop to 10ish and the Bears could trade up to get him.

I think Alabama will be a bit of a tiebreaker game for him. Ton of NFL talent in that secondary, seeing how he does against guys like Surtain II will be a good final test.

His deep ball reminds me of Russell, gets a ton of air under it. And sometimes his short throws are complete wobbly ducks, it’s weird that he struggles throwing spirals over short distances. I could still see him dropping during combines because he has intangibles, but other guys may throw prettier balls in drills.

[Bulls69]

Kyle Trask’s draft stock is plummeting in real time right now. Quicksand for the poor kid.

Please don't touch him has SEXY Rex written all over him

[Brothaman33]

I'm sorry, but this is the absolute wrong way to look at a team, a position, and say you want championships. The Bears are not playing against their historical teams. They are playing against current NFL. They are playing against the current Packers, current Saints, current Lions, etc. Being better than piss poor players in the franchise is nothing that should be celebrated or commended. Regardless if the Bears make the playoffs or not, Trubisky is a piss poor QB who can't read a defense, throw a deep ball, and needs the field cut off to cut down on mistakes.

No team will ever win a Super Bowl or even consistently make the playoffs with Trubisky as their starting QB. You need to decide what you want from your team.

I think you're being a little too hard on Mitch. His passer rating is over 100 the past 4 weeks. He's shown he can do a lot of things these past weeks that it seemed like he couldn't before. Maybe a lot of his struggles did have to do with play calling, or the O line, or lack of a running game. I'm far from being sold on him as a franchise QB, but it seems like he's at least showing a lot of improvement, so it would be dumb to just give up on him at this point, esp. since we don't have any better alternatives.

It could just be playing agains bad defenses that have made him look so much better. Very possible. We'll find a little bit tomorrow. But it doesn't seem like there is much to lose by keeping him next year, if we can get him on a reasonable deal, and see how he plays. We'd all love to have a HOF QB, how exactly do you plan on getting that? And what do you do in the meantime? At least Mitch is showing he can win games for you. 4 games in a row with 30+ points- no Bears team has done that in 55 years. Thats' not something to blithely just piss away.

again, mitch had an even better stretch in 2008...against better defenses. nick foles has obviously had better stretches. didn't stop either one of them from being placed on the trash heap in the interim

pay trubisky this offseason and he'll be without his two favorite targets next season (robinson and graham). either way, not likely to see many 30+ point games going forward

I agree with some if this, but there are other factors to consider.

I dont think anyone us saying to pay Trubisky a massive, multi year contract. I think you have to at least see what his market is and then see if he would be willing to sign a shorter incentive rich deal. You can't treat him as "Oh, he isn't Mahomes so ditch him"...I think you have to reasonably assess how good he is right now, compared to other options. If he won't sign a deal like that, or doesnt want to come back, cool.

He's better then Foles, he'll be better then almost all of the FA options and he probably will be a better fit the whatever rookie QB we end up drafting in the short term.

They are in a tough spot, but I'm not opposed to a reunion, depending on what the details are.

[Dresden]

Was really nice to see Ohio State win and getting to watch Dabo choke on his own words last night. If there was ever a moment of sports karma, that was it.

Fields with a gutsy performance, one he really needed. He was horrid against Northwestern and many mocks had him dropping, had a 4:5 TD to INT ratio over the last couple games. I was secretly hoping he would drop to 10ish and the Bears could trade up to get him.

I think Alabama will be a bit of a tiebreaker game for him. Ton of NFL talent in that secondary, seeing how he does against guys like Surtain II will be a good final test.

His deep ball reminds me of Russell, gets a ton of air under it. And sometimes his short throws are complete wobbly ducks, it’s weird that he struggles throwing spirals over short distances. I could still see him dropping during combines because he has intangibles, but other guys may throw prettier balls in drills.

Yeah, it was good to see Clemson get it's clocked cleaned again. Ohio St was very impressive- Alabama will have it's hands full. I guess you can't judge a guy on one game- Fields did look like Russell Wilson in that game. Will be interesting to see who is the better pro- he or Lawrence. Lawrence has all the tools and he's so big and rangy, but Fields did more to control the outcome of that game last night. Both could be excellent NFL QB's.

[Susan]

Saints entire backfield just got wiped out and if their playoff game is next Saturday, Kamara is out as well.

Ideal world:
Bears win
Cards win
Seattle wins
Saints lose

We go to NOLA and face the Saints. Another way this happens is if we lose, LA wins and the Saints win.

[Bulls69]

The usual rout of ND in a big game is underway. AL goes down the field on its first possession without even going to third down.

The Playoff committee needs stop force feeding ND on us they were blown out by Clemson a few weeks ago.

[Dresden]

The usual rout of ND in a big game is underway. AL goes down the field on its first possession without even going to third down.

The Playoff committee needs stop force feeding ND on us they were blown out by Clemson a few weeks ago.

Yeah, happens year after year. ND has such a big national following, they figure it will be good for ratings. But how many people want to watch a snooze fest like that game v. AL, which was over after the first quarter pretty much? It's a shame because other deserving teams get shut out of the chance to play for a national title.

It was amusing listening to the announcers talking pre-game about how this year would be different, about how ND has gotten so much better and is ready to take on the big teams. Then Alabama goes down and scores the first three times it has the ball without hardly breaking a sweat, and the game's over. It's just a money grab, and everyone knows it.