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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#21 » by Syd-TK3 » Fri Jan 1, 2021 8:28 pm

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Mak wrote:Warriors is an interesting spot. If we decide to give up on cap space next year. Lowry for Wiggins + Warriors pick + Wolves pick. With this trade we would probably finish int he lottery too. Potentially 3 lottery picks.

All that for an expiring Lowry? I doubt you get both picks for Lowry...even if the ask is to take on Wiggins' massive contract. You might be lucky to get even the lesser of the 2 picks.

If you can get that wolves pick you make whatever deal
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#22 » by Bruin » Fri Jan 1, 2021 8:29 pm

bluerap23 wrote:Golden State. Steph and Lowry backcourt gets them into the second round at minimum.

Wiggins + Minnesota pick and id do it. Wiggins is the perfect tank commander and the wolves pick can be a good asset for the rebuild
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#23 » by Kingsway_fan » Fri Jan 1, 2021 8:32 pm

Mak wrote:Warriors is an interesting spot. If we decide to give up on cap space next year. Lowry for Wiggins + Warriors pick + Wolves pick. With this trade we would probably finish int he lottery too. Potentially 3 lottery picks.


That would be good.. esp if we could flip Wiggins for any expiring...
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#24 » by _MidNight_ » Fri Jan 1, 2021 8:37 pm

I like Denver a lot. Something like Harris (salary dump), Zeke, and Barton for Kyle works.

Zeke will be our center of the future, Barton would be a great fit as the starting SG for us.

Fred/Flynn
Barton/Norm/Thomas
OG/TD/Watson
Pascal/Boucher
Zeke/Banes/Len

Kyle and Murray can play together as he's a 6'4" guard.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#25 » by mdenny » Fri Jan 1, 2021 8:37 pm

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KL78192020 wrote:Philly would probably be the best partner. Lowry gets to go home and has a chance to win.

Trade him for Danny Green/Mike Scott/Matisse Thybulle and a 1st round pick.


You know it does not work salary wise?
I don't think Philly is our best partner, because they may not have someone who can match the salary and make it work. We might as well waive Lowry instead of getting those players who are also chasing for rings at the age of their career.



It does. This trade suggestion was first made (As far as I know) by a poster named Creamy. Except he had Maxey coming back instead of the first rounder. It works in the trade checkers.
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Post#26 » by Skeezo » Fri Jan 1, 2021 8:48 pm

I'm not sure they are the best option, but the Warriors are certainly an interesting partner simply because their enormous tax bill in relation to their current burn-rate of cash with no fans in stands opens up added leverage... I don't know how the GS ownership group can continue to field huge losses while already making major investments into a new stadium that sits empty.

Lowry not only improve their chances to compete this year with Klay out, but his expiring contract must have significant value to allow a team like the Warriors to get out of some future salary and substantial luxury tax implications.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#27 » by Indeed » Fri Jan 1, 2021 8:55 pm

mdenny wrote:
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KL78192020 wrote:Philly would probably be the best partner. Lowry gets to go home and has a chance to win.

Trade him for Danny Green/Mike Scott/Matisse Thybulle and a 1st round pick.


You know it does not work salary wise?
I don't think Philly is our best partner, because they may not have someone who can match the salary and make it work. We might as well waive Lowry instead of getting those players who are also chasing for rings at the age of their career.



It does. This trade suggestion was first made (As far as I know) by a poster named Creamy. Except he had Maxey coming back instead of the first rounder. It works in the trade checkers.


Danny Green/Mike Scott/Matisse Thybulle and a 1st round pick
This does not work on the trade tracker, please check it yourself.
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Post#28 » by 6ixSideSniper » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:06 pm

It’s depressing reading Kyle Lowry trade ideas.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#29 » by KL78192020 » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:12 pm

Indeed wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:Philly would probably be the best partner. Lowry gets to go home and has a chance to win.

Trade him for Danny Green/Mike Scott/Matisse Thybulle and a 1st round pick.


You know it does not work salary wise?
I don't think Philly is our best partner, because they may not have someone who can match the salary and make it work. We might as well waive Lowry instead of getting those players who are also chasing for rings at the age of their career.


Yes it does. Its within 25% of the threshold. Those 3 guys combined are around $24 million.

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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#30 » by mdenny » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:12 pm

Indeed wrote:
mdenny wrote:
Indeed wrote:
You know it does not work salary wise?
I don't think Philly is our best partner, because they may not have someone who can match the salary and make it work. We might as well waive Lowry instead of getting those players who are also chasing for rings at the age of their career.



It does. This trade suggestion was first made (As far as I know) by a poster named Creamy. Except he had Maxey coming back instead of the first rounder. It works in the trade checkers.


Danny Green/Mike Scott/Matisse Thybulle and a 1st round pick
This does not work on the trade tracker, please check it yourself.



It's off by 2 milion. That's why i stated that the trade that works replaced the pick with Maxey.

I'm sure they can find 2 million dollars to make up the difference in a 60 million deal. There's a billion ways to do it. You're being a little too literal here. The deal as proposed essentially works.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#31 » by KL78192020 » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:14 pm

mdenny wrote:
Indeed wrote:
mdenny wrote:

It does. This trade suggestion was first made (As far as I know) by a poster named Creamy. Except he had Maxey coming back instead of the first rounder. It works in the trade checkers.


Danny Green/Mike Scott/Matisse Thybulle and a 1st round pick
This does not work on the trade tracker, please check it yourself.



It's off by 2 milion. That's why i stated that the trade that works replaced the pick with Maxey.

I'm sure they can find 2 million dollars to make up the difference in a 60 million deal. There's a billion ways to do it. You're being a little too literal here. The deal as proposed essentially works.


Yea that was the jist of the trade, add whatever fillers needed. But that trade does actual work in trade checker.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#32 » by Ell Curry » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:16 pm

Skeezo wrote:I'm not sure they are the best option, but the Warriors are certainly an interesting partner simply because their enormous tax bill in relation to their current burn-rate of cash with no fans in stands opens up added leverage... I don't know how the GS ownership group can continue to field huge losses while already making major investments into a new stadium that sits empty.

Lowry not only improve their chances to compete this year with Klay out, but his expiring contract must have significant value to allow a team like the Warriors to get out of some future salary and substantial luxury tax implications.


Something centered around Lowry for Klay with us committing to a tank (resting guys who have played a ton of ball, force feeding OG possessions, lots of Flynn and Watson) and operating over the cap this year is interesting. Raps could even take on Looney's contract to save Golden State 20M or so in tax money next year, or expand it with Draymond and Norm and Baynes + McCaw/Johnson and you've got big savings for Golden State even if they resign Norm and they can throw out Wiseman at the 5, Oubre/Wiggins/Powell on the wings and Lowry and Curry at guard and they still have the Minny First and their own to make a move for another forward they'd need (either move up in the draft or trade it for a more win now guy) and the Taxpayer MLE to get their backup 5 this summer.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#33 » by Kreamy » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:18 pm

Feel it's going to be Philly if they strike out on Harden and we trade Lowry.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#34 » by JN » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:20 pm

Indeed wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:Philly would probably be the best partner. Lowry gets to go home and has a chance to win.

Trade him for Danny Green/Mike Scott/Matisse Thybulle and a 1st round pick.


You know it does not work salary wise?
I don't think Philly is our best partner, because they may not have someone who can match the salary and make it work. We might as well waive Lowry instead of getting those players who are also chasing for rings at the age of their career.


You would have to add one scrub to make it work -- the current deal proposed above is very close to the matching threshold. They can easily match salaries.

EDIT - Checking the trade checker it actually does work with the 3 above.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#35 » by mdenny » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:20 pm

KL78192020 wrote:
mdenny wrote:
Indeed wrote:
Danny Green/Mike Scott/Matisse Thybulle and a 1st round pick
This does not work on the trade tracker, please check it yourself.



It's off by 2 milion. That's why i stated that the trade that works replaced the pick with Maxey.

I'm sure they can find 2 million dollars to make up the difference in a 60 million deal. There's a billion ways to do it. You're being a little too literal here. The deal as proposed essentially works.


Yea that was the jist of the trade, add whatever fillers needed. But that trade does actual work in trade checker.



Philly could just throw in Poirier or Korkmaz.

It's a great idea I think. It gives Philly a starting lineup of:

Lowry
Curry
Simmons
Harris
Embiid

For a pretty interesting playoff run. That's a versatile starting 5 who should solve their chemistry problems. A bit of everything in that lineup.


For Toronto....we would start next season with 2 solid rookie contracts (Flynn/Tybulle) along with 2 mid to late first round picks.

That's 4 very cheap rookie contracts for the next 3/4 years while also preserving our cap space for next summer. I think this is one of the more plausible suggestions. Works for everyone....including Kyle who gets to go home.
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Post#36 » by tdotrep2 » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:28 pm

sixers pick would be on the 20's, so a 23rd pick and thybulle for lowry is what your looking at
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Post#37 » by JN » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:30 pm

Indeed wrote:
mdenny wrote:
Indeed wrote:
You know it does not work salary wise?
I don't think Philly is our best partner, because they may not have someone who can match the salary and make it work. We might as well waive Lowry instead of getting those players who are also chasing for rings at the age of their career.



It does. This trade suggestion was first made (As far as I know) by a poster named Creamy. Except he had Maxey coming back instead of the first rounder. It works in the trade checkers.


Danny Green/Mike Scott/Matisse Thybulle and a 1st round pick
This does not work on the trade tracker, please check it yourself.


You must be using those same salary cap tools that your favourite GM Colangelo used when he signed Matt Barnes.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#38 » by mdenny » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:33 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:sixers pick would be on the 20's, so a 23rd pick and thybulle for lowry is what your looking at



For a one year rental of Lowry to be specific. I mean....that's a good return for any rental. If anything....we might not be able to get that much. Thybulle and a second might be more realistic.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#39 » by garbagnani » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:44 pm

Mak wrote:Warriors is an interesting spot. If we decide to give up on cap space next year. Lowry for Wiggins + Warriors pick + Wolves pick. With this trade we would probably finish int he lottery too. Potentially 3 lottery picks.


Lowry + siakam
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wiggins, klay injury exemption space, wiseman, minny 2021 pick
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#40 » by tecumseh18 » Fri Jan 1, 2021 9:46 pm

JD143726 wrote:Assuming that our tough schedule gets the better of us and we look towards trading Lowry, what are the realistic destinations?

- Must have matching contacts, trade exceptions or space
- Must have a first round pick to trade and possibly seconds
- Must have a need for his position
- Must be making either a title push or looking to make big noise in the playoffs

Here’s what I came up with that fit the criteria:

- Utah
- Dallas
- Philly
- Brooklyn
- Portland
- Indiana

Anyone else?


I know it's all about the 2 PG backcourt now, but (a) I disagree with that principle, and (b) despite his girth, Lowry is too small to make it work with another traditionally-sized PG - Kyrie for example.

Kyle might fit with Brogdon. Ideal trade would be with Norm to Indy for VO and Myles Turner. Masai would have to add draft picks to make that work.

But generally, Sixers and Mavs are the obvious targets. I've unsuccessfully tried to make a Mavs deal work, whereby Raps get back assets worth trading GROAT for. Sixers are in cap hell for the foreseeable future with the Tobias Harris contract, and while he shot well against us a few days ago, I don't see it as our job to help the Sixers out of it. Not without a bunch of picks and pick swaps and/or a prospect or two (Thybuile?). The alternative trade would involve Danny plus other expirings for Lowry. But that would still require a lot of draft capital, because Masai would basically be handing a Finals berth to Philly. Part of me wants to see it happen, so that GROAT confirms his spot in the HOF, and KD, Kyrie and Giannis are again relegated to spectator status in the Finals.

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