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Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard?

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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#161 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 1, 2021 5:25 pm

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BullyKing wrote:Enough about Harden. There is a dedicated thread to discuss him.


Isn't this it? It's called to beard or not to beard lol!


That's because that's the biggest question / issue hovering over the team as the season starts. I agree dedicated Harden talk should go in its own thread. The tagline/subtitle for this thread will change over time!


To be fair, i thought this thread is about whether Vincent Poirier should start at center position or not.

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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#162 » by BullyKing » Fri Jan 1, 2021 5:26 pm

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You are the largest reason why containing Harden talk to one thread is necessary and you just ignored a request to keep this thread free of it.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#163 » by Arsenal » Fri Jan 1, 2021 5:27 pm

I like Vincent Poirier as our 3rd string C better than Tony Bradley. Vincent appears more athletic and fluid out there.

Fully expect Morey to use Bradley's $4M as salary filler in a deal at some point.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#164 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 1, 2021 5:28 pm

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You are the largest reason why containing Harden talk to one thread is necessary and you just ignored a request to keep this thread free of it.


Ok sorry.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#165 » by 76ciology » Fri Jan 1, 2021 7:36 pm

I dont know if it’s just we’re playing against really bad teams with a couple of them are blow outs (knicks and magic) but the big difference in Tobi’s offense this season if you look at the numbers is his transition offense. It went from 17% of his possessions to 25%. But then Ben’s transition is pretty much the same.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#166 » by Arsenal » Fri Jan 1, 2021 7:50 pm

76ciology wrote:I dont know if it’s just we’re playing against really bad teams with a couple of them are blow outs (knicks and magic) but the big difference in Tobi’s offense this season if you look at the numbers is his transition offense. It went from 17% of his possessions to 25%. But then Ben’s transition is pretty much the same.


Better defense = more transition opportunities
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#167 » by eyeatoma » Fri Jan 1, 2021 10:23 pm

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We should actually be better on this if you didn't include the Cavs game and Jo played. That offense has to get better though.
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Post#169 » by eyeatoma » Fri Jan 1, 2021 11:28 pm

PhilaOwnsBoston wrote:I agree with Spike a lot on what he wrote here.

https://www.radio.com/94wip/sports/eagles/sixers-ben-simmons-is-more-valuable-in-trade-than-on-court


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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#170 » by Black Mage » Sat Jan 2, 2021 4:24 am

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We should actually be better on this if you didn't include the Cavs game and Jo played. That offense has to get better though.


Yeah that's concerning, we're not even in the top 5 for net. Yes Cavs game certainly was a blip, but didn't the Lakers, Bucks and other teams ahead of us also have blip games?

Also, our defense is likely to drop as we've feasted on some inept offenses. Schedule about to escalate rapidly.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#171 » by 6ers83 » Sat Jan 2, 2021 4:47 am

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We should actually be better on this if you didn't include the Cavs game and Jo played. That offense has to get better though.


Yeah that's concerning, we're not even in the top 5 for net. Yes Cavs game certainly was a blip, but didn't the Lakers, Bucks and other teams ahead of us also have blip games?

Also, our defense is likely to drop as we've feasted on some inept offenses. Schedule about to escalate rapidly.


This like most analytics means nothing it’s just a stat for non-athletic people that never played the game. Lol

I’ll give the analytics nerds credit though - they have convinced very smart people in the NBA that their numbers actually matter. Sad but unfortunately true.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#172 » by 76ciology » Sat Jan 2, 2021 4:49 am

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We should actually be better on this if you didn't include the Cavs game and Jo played. That offense has to get better though.


We played against bad teams. Cavs was the best team we faced but Biid was out. While Magic didnt have 2 of their best scorers.

Knicks and Raps are two of the league’s worst teams on offense. Then Wizards looks like the league’s worst defense team.

And yet, we still dont look like a team that would make it past the 2nd round based on eyetest, team’s issues past season and small sample size of data of this season.

Overall, I think we’re trying to play like the 2019-2020 Lakers (not saying totally trying to be them) focusing on interior defense, overall defense, ORebs, more PnR than last year, getting to the line more, jack up around 30 threepointers and faster pace than last season.

What I’d really give credit is our defense this season where Udoka implemented some weird schemes that really hurt our defense.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#173 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jan 2, 2021 2:54 pm

Harris looks the same to me.

I am impressed with Seth so far. I was very against this trade, but he's been way more capable putting the ball on the floor than I gave him credit for. I'm not convinced my original take won't be proven correct in the playoffs, though.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#174 » by zaz102 » Sat Jan 2, 2021 3:05 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Harris looks the same to me.

I am impressed with Seth so far. I was very against this trade, but he's been way more capable putting the ball on the floor than I gave him credit for. I'm not convinced my original take won't be proven correct in the playoffs, though.
Yeah, same here. I feel like Curry can be a capable starter in the playoffs, but again he's not going to help generate too much offense himself in the playoffs. We will see.

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Post#175 » by youngcrev » Sat Jan 2, 2021 3:53 pm

PhilaOwnsBoston wrote:I agree with Spike a lot on what he wrote here.

https://www.radio.com/94wip/sports/eagles/sixers-ben-simmons-is-more-valuable-in-trade-than-on-court


I don't think he's necessarily wrong, and I get that it's his schtick, but I get annoyed by the level of certainty that he talks about these matters. But hey, level headed takes aren't fun, and his job is to have an opinion. Going this hard on subjects hasn't really worked out for him in the past though.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#176 » by 76ciology » Sat Jan 2, 2021 3:55 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Harris looks the same to me.

I am impressed with Seth so far. I was very against this trade, but he's been way more capable putting the ball on the floor than I gave him credit for. I'm not convinced my original take won't be proven correct in the playoffs, though.


Offensively Harris been padding on offense with transition baskets which went from 17% to 25% of his possessions. I think part of this is the garbage basketball were playing against bad teams. Defensively, he’s more aggressive though IMO

Seth is OK as long as you have a potent offense that can take advantage like Mavs when they run that Doncic-Seth-THJ trio. Seth actually had the best +/- among Mavs during the playoffs. I dont know how playable he can be for us. Maybe our defense can back him up.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#177 » by sixers hoops » Sat Jan 2, 2021 4:47 pm

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We should actually be better on this if you didn't include the Cavs game and Jo played. That offense has to get better though.


Yeah that's concerning, we're not even in the top 5 for net. Yes Cavs game certainly was a blip, but didn't the Lakers, Bucks and other teams ahead of us also have blip games?

Also, our defense is likely to drop as we've feasted on some inept offenses. Schedule about to escalate rapidly.


This like most analytics means nothing it’s just a stat for non-athletic people that never played the game. Lol

I’ll give the analytics nerds credit though - they have convinced very smart people in the NBA that their numbers actually matter. Sad but unfortunately true.


A classic ad hominem attack from someone who struggles to comprehend analytics. You really didn’t explain why analytics are ineffective, but focus on declaring anyone who uses them “nerds” or “unathletic.” Frankly, I really wouldn’t care if my GM lacked athleticism, as long as he were able to find competitive advantages because he had the capacity to comprehend a broader field of available data.

On this forum, we are not going with the 4th grade debate strategy of calling someone a “nerd” because they are smart enough to understand, or interested enough to discuss, analytics. If you think analytics are a waste, then feel free to discuss why you disagree with the content presented in the post. However, if you are intellectually insecure and want to limit the debate to concepts that you are able to comprehend by insulting posters who present analytics based concepts, then this forum isn’t the place for you.

Michael Jordan is plenty athletic, but I’d certainly take the co-founder of the Sloan Sports Analytics Conference to run my team.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#178 » by Sixerscan » Sat Jan 2, 2021 4:47 pm

Harris was taking quick 3s in transition during the Magic game. Those are key shots for him. He’s a much more productive player when he can take and make immediate open shots rather than probing.

Curry is not going to keep shooting quite like this and it should go without saying that long term him playing 35 minutes in a playoff game would not be ideal but he’s a very useful player especially with this team. He’s a different player than Redick, more ball handling less movement and quick trigger.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#179 » by sixers hoops » Sat Jan 2, 2021 4:51 pm

Sixerscan wrote:Harris was taking quick 3s in transition during the Magic game. Those are key shots for him. He’s a much more productive player when he can take and make immediate open shots rather than probing.

Curry is not going to keep shooting quite like this and it should go without saying that long term him playing 35 minutes in a playoff game would not be ideal but he’s a very useful player especially with this team. He’s a different player than Redick, more ball handling less movement and quick trigger.


I hope with the coaches encouraging Tobias to take the quick shots, and him building confidence in his effectiveness with the shot, he will become more efficient.
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Re: Official 2020-21 Season Thread #1: To Beard or not To Beard? 

Post#180 » by Sixerscan » Sat Jan 2, 2021 4:52 pm

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Yeah that's concerning, we're not even in the top 5 for net. Yes Cavs game certainly was a blip, but didn't the Lakers, Bucks and other teams ahead of us also have blip games?

Also, our defense is likely to drop as we've feasted on some inept offenses. Schedule about to escalate rapidly.


This like most analytics means nothing it’s just a stat for non-athletic people that never played the game. Lol

I’ll give the analytics nerds credit though - they have convinced very smart people in the NBA that their numbers actually matter. Sad but unfortunately true.


A classic ad hominem attack from someone who struggles to comprehend analytics. You really didn’t explain why analytics are ineffective, but focus on declaring anyone who uses them “nerds” or “unathletic.” Frankly, I really wouldn’t care if my GM lacked athleticism, as long as he were able to find competitive advantages because he had the capacity to comprehend a broader field of available data.

On this forum, we are not going with the 4th grade debate strategy of calling someone a “nerd” because they are smart enough to understand, or interested enough to discuss, analytics. If you think analytics are a waste, then feel free to discuss why you disagree with the content presented in the post. However, if you are intellectually insecure and want to limit the debate to concepts that you are able to comprehend by insulting posters who present analytics based concepts, then this forum isn’t the place for you.

Michael Jordan is plenty athletic, but I’d certainly take the co-founder of the Sloan Sports Analytics Conference to run my team.

This is also arguably not even analytics, it’s points per possession. Every coach in the nba uses it and they didn’t need a nerd or whatever to tell them to. It’s common sense.

Anyway if this is too complicated points per game tells a similar story.

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