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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#61 » by tecumseh18 » Sat Jan 2, 2021 1:11 am

Purple Fever wrote:Philadelphia gets:
Kyle Lowry
Jalen Harris
Future 2nd Round Pick

Toronto gets:
Danny Green
Mike Scott
Matisse Thybulle
Tyrese Maxey


Not even close to being nearly enough. Did you forget to add the two FRPs and pick swaps coming back to us? Lowry wouldn't be a rental for the Sixers - he'd resign, perhaps for a hometown discount.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#62 » by omar36 » Sat Jan 2, 2021 1:12 am

bballsparkin wrote:
garbagnani wrote:Lowry + siakam
for
wiggins, klay injury exemption space, wiseman, minny 2021 pick


Sign me up!



wiseman looks way too good for gsw to pas him up for a year of lowry lol. if anything they prob demand og/siakim and tbh id still do it for that.
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Post#63 » by MixxSRC » Sat Jan 2, 2021 1:33 am

mdenny wrote:
MixxSRC wrote:Maybe Spurs?



I don't think they're in rental mode.


He could resign with them. Plus he was interested in them before. He gets to reunite with Derozan
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#64 » by garbagnani » Sat Jan 2, 2021 1:56 am

omar36 wrote:
bballsparkin wrote:
garbagnani wrote:Lowry + siakam
for
wiggins, klay injury exemption space, wiseman, minny 2021 pick


Sign me up!



wiseman looks way too good for gsw to pas him up for a year of lowry lol. if anything they prob demand og/siakim and tbh id still do it for that.
I don’t disagree. But, I think this is a good trade for them. They can compete for chip this year. And add klay to mix next year. I think it’s a good deal for both sides.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#65 » by anotherhomer » Sat Jan 2, 2021 2:38 am

tecumseh18 wrote:
Purple Fever wrote:Philadelphia gets:
Kyle Lowry
Jalen Harris
Future 2nd Round Pick

Toronto gets:
Danny Green
Mike Scott
Matisse Thybulle
Tyrese Maxey


Not even close to being nearly enough. Did you forget to add the two FRPs and pick swaps coming back to us? Lowry wouldn't be a rental for the Sixers - he'd resign, perhaps for a hometown discount.


Sixers have to give at least one first round draft pick
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#66 » by Indeed » Sat Jan 2, 2021 2:44 am

anotherhomer wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:
Purple Fever wrote:Philadelphia gets:
Kyle Lowry
Jalen Harris
Future 2nd Round Pick

Toronto gets:
Danny Green
Mike Scott
Matisse Thybulle
Tyrese Maxey


Not even close to being nearly enough. Did you forget to add the two FRPs and pick swaps coming back to us? Lowry wouldn't be a rental for the Sixers - he'd resign, perhaps for a hometown discount.


Sixers have to give at least one first round draft pick


And not sure why the Raptors needs to give up a pick. Rather not want any young prospect from Philly, as they are not better than the one Toronto has, and most likely we are going to waive them anyway due to lack of roster spot.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#67 » by Johnny Bball » Sat Jan 2, 2021 2:54 am

bluerap23 wrote:Golden State. Steph and Lowry backcourt gets them into the second round at minimum.


Makes zero sense for them to get off wiggins right now and give up picks too to win. they are WAYYYYYY into the tax. They will try to trade wiggins for justsimple cap relief in the summer.

And they are not competing.... so why.

Philly and Utah are it only. Rest is a pipe dream. Maybe... real outside shot....Heat or Nets panic...but real longshot.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#68 » by HeadtopChunes » Sat Jan 2, 2021 3:18 am

id def need demand maxey in a philly deal
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Post#69 » by Valard » Sat Jan 2, 2021 3:28 am

All threads that suggest trade scenarios for Kyle are heresy.

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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#70 » by AbC? » Sat Jan 2, 2021 3:31 am

Lowry to philly makes too much sense not to happen. Send the man home and give him a chance to contend for a ring while we recoup some assets. Life without Lowry is coming for the raptors eventually, need to prepare.
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Post#71 » by isyed » Sat Jan 2, 2021 3:39 am

Warriors make the most sense. They get Lowrys bird rights and can extend him on a reasonable 3 year extendision. His age aligns better with steph and klay. Klay comes back next year and the defense with green, Kyle and klay is awesome. Add in Wiseman and they can be top 4.

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Post#72 » by rapluva » Sat Jan 2, 2021 3:44 am

How about Kyle to Indiana...along with Terrence Davis..or McCaw for Brogdan and Myles Turner..we can then trade Baynes to another contender for a Small Forward.

For the long run..

Freddy/Flynn/ or whoever we don't trade
Brogdan/ Powell/ Thomas/ Bembry
OG/ Watanabe/ Watson/ Johnson
Pascal / Boucher
Turner / Lenn
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#73 » by mdenny » Sat Jan 2, 2021 3:45 am

tecumseh18 wrote:
Purple Fever wrote:Philadelphia gets:
Kyle Lowry
Jalen Harris
Future 2nd Round Pick

Toronto gets:
Danny Green
Mike Scott
Matisse Thybulle
Tyrese Maxey


Not even close to being nearly enough. Did you forget to add the two FRPs and pick swaps coming back to us? Lowry wouldn't be a rental for the Sixers - he'd resign, perhaps for a hometown discount.


Maxey and Thybulle are first round picks. We're not getting 4 firsts for a Lowry rental.

Whether he resigns or not (while taking a discount) is out of our control anyways. This is just getting a haul for him rather than getting nothing. Maxey/thybulle is a good haul. 3 more years of rookie contract control each.

Tbh....I doubt philly is willing to pay even that much. We'd be fortunate to get that much which is probably why this poster added in Jalen and a 2nd.

One thing is for sure....as mich as it would have been nuts to trade ibaka/gasol last season....it would be equally crazy NOT to trade Kyle this season. We won't be able to afford him this summer unless we want to run our current team back without baynes/Boucher. There's zero reason to do that. We got to cash him in for something. This trade is effectively 2 first rounders in addition to preserving our cap space. It's probably a best case scenario.
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Post#74 » by Dre_25 » Sat Jan 2, 2021 4:25 am

I agree, we need to cash in on Lowry and give him a shot at another ring. Sending him to Philly would allow him to be a legend in his own city.

But I'm not a fan of another shoot first PG. Rather have a 1st Rd pick and try to flip Green and Scott for other picks.

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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#75 » by HeadtopChunes » Sat Jan 2, 2021 4:46 am

mdenny wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:
Purple Fever wrote:Philadelphia gets:
Kyle Lowry
Jalen Harris
Future 2nd Round Pick

Toronto gets:
Danny Green
Mike Scott
Matisse Thybulle
Tyrese Maxey


Not even close to being nearly enough. Did you forget to add the two FRPs and pick swaps coming back to us? Lowry wouldn't be a rental for the Sixers - he'd resign, perhaps for a hometown discount.


Maxey and Thybulle are first round picks. We're not getting 4 firsts for a Lowry rental.

Whether he resigns or not (while taking a discount) is out of our control anyways. This is just getting a haul for him rather than getting nothing. Maxey/thybulle is a good haul. 3 more years of rookie contract control each.

Tbh....I doubt philly is willing to pay even that much. We'd be fortunate to get that much which is probably why this poster added in Jalen and a 2nd.

One thing is for sure....as mich as it would have been nuts to trade ibaka/gasol last season....it would be equally crazy NOT to trade Kyle this season. We won't be able to afford him this summer unless we want to run our current team back without baynes/Boucher. There's zero reason to do that. We got to cash him in for something. This trade is effectively 2 first rounders in addition to preserving our cap space. It's probably a best case scenario.


its prob not a rental if he goes to Philly, very likely to stay and they can keep him with his bird rights. Similar to the Jrue trade who Kyle is still a significantly better player then
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#76 » by agentzero2010 » Sat Jan 2, 2021 5:23 am

The rumours of raptors trading Siakam for Harden just doesn't add up for me unless we are also moving either Lowry or VanVleet. VanVleet is a lot younger and his ability to make shots off the ball will be greatly benefited from Harden's ball dominate offensive game. I somehow see the Raptors trading Lowry for young assets and packaging those assets with Siakam for Harden.

Give me your thoughts of the following scenario:

To Nuggets: Lowry, McCaw
To Raptors: Harden, Barton
To Rockets: Siakam, Harris, raptors first-round pick, nuggets second-round pick

Why the Nuggets make this trade: Nuggets receive an experienced, championship level, defensive-minded leader that can anchor their perimeter defence. IMO, the Nuggets need to add some "dog" to their team and some toughness to go along with Jokic and Murray.
Nuggets can have a closing lineup of Lowrry-Murry-MPJ-Milsap-Jokic which can totally compete for a title this season.

Why the Rockets make this trade: Rockets receive an Allstar level talent in Siakam with star up-sides (not superstar). Rockets can suddenly re-make themselves into an athletic team with Wall-Harris-House Jr-Siakam-Woods along with Gordon, Cousins, McClemore coming off the bench.

Why the Raptors make this trade: Raptors receive a superstar in his prime that can revamp their offence and push the team towards another franchise summit. In this scenario, Raptors could still have a max salary slot (around 32 million) if Norm declines his P/O, Barton declines his P/O, and Baynes T/O is declined and if they unload Boucher's 7 million contract.

Does a core of VanVleet-Harden-OG plus another max contract and a MLE along with Thomas, Flynn, Bembry and Davis get this team to another title within the next 2 seasons? Kind of hard to picture it...unless. Raptors bring back Kawhi?

VanVleet/Harden/Kawhi/Anunoby/Ibaka?

Total pipe dream but if we can add Harden and maintain max salary, there's at least 5% chance that happens right?
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Post#77 » by SurgeIblocka » Sat Jan 2, 2021 1:59 pm

If Lowry is traded it would be to the western conference. I don’t think Masai would want him burning us.
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Post#78 » by OAKLEY_2 » Sat Jan 2, 2021 3:17 pm

SurgeIblocka wrote:If Lowry is traded it would be to the western conference. I don’t think Masai would want him burning us.


Because of the chip I think Masai would only trade him to Philly but only if Lowry asked for it before free agency which he won't unless Raps are an obvious first round casualty which remains to be seen. If that were the case we might get the Tobias contract which is a worse situation than the offseason cap space so KL might be addition by subtraction after this year. If Tobias came with a first rounder and another body... say Tobias/Isiah Joe/FRP for KL and McCaw that seems about right.
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#79 » by oldncreaky » Sat Jan 2, 2021 7:12 pm

With the caveat that trading Lowry could kill the franchise, so you only do it if (a) Lowry asks and (b) he approves of the destination

Another possible destination that makes sense for both teams: Raptors and Pelicans

The Pelicans have a ton of young players, with 4 more FRPs still to come from the AD and Jrue trades, and all their own picks. The Pelicans simply don't have enough minutes to develop all of their youngsters. They also have Stan Van Gundy as Head Coach, and Stan needs (I mean really NEEDS) to have a good PG floor leader running his offence (see 2016 Pistons for what happens when he doesn't). The Pelicans failed to agree to extend Lonzo Ball, and he really isn't an SVG type of player, so he may not fit.

If small ball with Zion at C takes off in New Orleans, I can see them wanting to get something for Adams before he expires
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Re: Possible Lowry Trade Destinations 

Post#80 » by mdenny » Sat Jan 2, 2021 7:28 pm

agentzero2010 wrote:The rumours of raptors trading Siakam for Harden just doesn't add up for me unless we are also moving either Lowry or VanVleet. VanVleet is a lot younger and his ability to make shots off the ball will be greatly benefited from Harden's ball dominate offensive game. I somehow see the Raptors trading Lowry for young assets and packaging those assets with Siakam for Harden.

Give me your thoughts of the following scenario:

To Nuggets: Lowry, McCaw
To Raptors: Harden, Barton
To Rockets: Siakam, Harris, raptors first-round pick, nuggets second-round pick

Why the Nuggets make this trade: Nuggets receive an experienced, championship level, defensive-minded leader that can anchor their perimeter defence. IMO, the Nuggets need to add some "dog" to their team and some toughness to go along with Jokic and Murray.
Nuggets can have a closing lineup of Lowrry-Murry-MPJ-Milsap-Jokic which can totally compete for a title this season.

Why the Rockets make this trade: Rockets receive an Allstar level talent in Siakam with star up-sides (not superstar). Rockets can suddenly re-make themselves into an athletic team with Wall-Harris-House Jr-Siakam-Woods along with Gordon, Cousins, McClemore coming off the bench.

Why the Raptors make this trade: Raptors receive a superstar in his prime that can revamp their offence and push the team towards another franchise summit. In this scenario, Raptors could still have a max salary slot (around 32 million) if Norm declines his P/O, Barton declines his P/O, and Baynes T/O is declined and if they unload Boucher's 7 million contract.

Does a core of VanVleet-Harden-OG plus another max contract and a MLE along with Thomas, Flynn, Bembry and Davis get this team to another title within the next 2 seasons? Kind of hard to picture it...unless. Raptors bring back Kawhi?

VanVleet/Harden/Kawhi/Anunoby/Ibaka?

Total pipe dream but if we can add Harden and maintain max salary, there's at least 5% chance that happens right?



I think it's an interesting scenario. Couple things tho: nuggets don't get better on D by losing Harris and gaining Lowry. Actually makes them considerably worse doesn't it? That said....I think they'd be a better all round team.

Also...we don't have to unload boucher. Not sure why some sites have him inked in next year (I've seen this). We have a team option on him.

I don't think there's any hope for Kawhi.....but agree that next year would look promising with Fred/harden (a perfect match imo), OG and a max/near max player. Griffin would make alot of sense for example. We'd probably only have to acquire a scrub center who is serviceable. OG and Griffin is a decent small ball frontcourt. My guess is the close up lineup could be:

Flynn
Fred
Harden
Griffin
OG

Hey....that's alot of potential imo.

Not many ppl have suggested losing both Kyle and siakam in a harden trade but it's a pretty good idea imo. I'd rather do siakam/lowry/1 first than siakam and 3 firsts.

We'd essentially be trading Kyle (knowing he's gone anyway) for two of our future picks. We are not getting harden under any circumstances for anything less than siakam/3 firsts. So it's a clever move to replace two of those picks with Lowry.

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