Tank World Order

Kingsway_fan · Post #281 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 8:45 am

If we could land a top five pick... I am OK with this... need to find a way to trade og and pascal offseason and let baynes andblen expire...

Build around Flynn, Fred, boucher,...

MixxSRC · Post #282 » by **MixxSRC** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 8:47 am

Kingsway_fan wrote:If we could land a top five pick... I am OK with this... need to find a way to trade og and pascal offseason and let baynes andblen expire...

Build around Flynn, Fred, boucher,...

We are not building around Boucher.

ImaBeatDatAzz · Post #283 » by **ImaBeatDatAzz** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 8:47 am

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:2021 Offseason

1. Cunningham or Mobley
2. Max Contract slot
3. Trade Siakam

ye well said, suggs is also a good shout, need to somehow get rid of siakam asap, he is the next wiggins

Kingsway_fan · Post #284 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 8:56 am

MixxSRC wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:If we could land a top five pick... I am OK with this... need to find a way to trade og and pascal offseason and let baynes andblen expire...

Build around Flynn, Fred, boucher,...

We are not building around Boucher.

Not core agreed, but still need to extend... we have no bigs...OG is not core.... nor is Pascal.... but we may be stuck with them short term ...

HKBOY · Post #285 » by **HKBOY** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 9:25 am

1. Trade Siakam and SJ to GSW for Wiseman and Wiggins. I think this is the most realistic option to get rid of Pascal's contract. GSW gets a legit 3rd option and we get a young C with huge upside. Wiggins contract stinks but he becomes a huge expiring in 2022. This is also a good new start for Pascal because he can play behind Curry and Klay.

2. Ask Lowry what he wants and trade him to a contender if he has no intention to re-sign with us.

3. Trade Fred if a good deal comes.

4. Tank hard this year (only this year, semi-tank) and get a top 5 pick. Get Suggs if we can.

Flynn/Suggs/Wiggins???/OG/Wiseman. That's a much better core than what we have right now.

Senbonzakura · Post #286 » by **Senbonzakura** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 10:15 am

There are quite a few good wings in this draft with star potential. Wings with actual size who can score off the bounce and finish. That's what we're missing atm.

Honestly the move is to trade Lowry to a contender for some 2 year contracts and 1st round picks. He could help take a team like Dallas or Philly to another level. He's still the highest impact player on the team so the loss of him should be enough to land us in the lottery. If you can get a proper superstar, you don't need to bottom out for years since we already have OG and FVV who are high level role players on good deals, and Siakam who we already know can win a championship as the #2/3 just not the main guy.

Chandan · Post #287 » by **Chandan** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 12:33 pm

HKBOY wrote:1. Trade Siakam and SJ to GSW for Wiseman and Wiggins. I think this is the most realistic option to get rid of Pascal's contract. GSW gets a legit 3rd option and we get a young C with huge upside. Wiggins contract stinks but he becomes a huge expiring in 2022. This is also a good new start for Pascal because he can play behind Curry and Klay.

2. Ask Lowry what he wants and trade him to a contender if he has no intention to re-sign with us.

3. Trade Fred if a good deal comes.

4. Tank hard this year (only this year, semi-tank) and get a top 5 pick. Get Suggs if we can.

Flynn/Suggs/Wiggins???/OG/Wiseman. That's a much better core than what we have right now.

GSW wouldn't do that.

Kingsway_fan · Post #288 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 1:48 pm

Most logical is trading Lowry and norm for frps and expiring if possible... picks are the key for 2021...

Do not extend baynes and len at season end... we also rid of mccaw and Stanley...

See what we could get for pascal or og as far as frps also....

KL78192020 · Post #289 » by **KL78192020** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 5:42 pm

TorontoRapsFan wrote:You all have such short term memory. Maybe go and look at the list of lottery teams and how many years these teams have been there. Have you ever thought about the fact that most treadmill teams are actually lotto teams? Some of them have been in the top 5 over and over and still are in the lotto at the end of the season. But no, you all bet on hope and prayers. None of you tankers should ever gamble. Don't even buy a lotto ticket. You'll probably ruin yourselves chasing that high.

Where is this team going? It naturally stinks, there is no tanking happening from management. Time to rebuild and move on from Kyle/Norm and anyone else of value. Raptors were lucky to trade for Kawhi using two lottery picks. Its time to gather more assets for future use.

macNcheese3 · Post #290 » by **macNcheese3** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 5:55 pm

It’s hard to tank. Nurse seems like he is definitely not the right coach to lead a tank. It’s tough on the young guys as well. But if we continue losing the way we are it’s an automatic tank as is.

Having a lottery pick is enticing.

KL78192020 · Post #291 » by **KL78192020** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 5:57 pm

macNcheese3 wrote:It’s hard to tank. Nurse seems like he is definitely not the right coach to lead a tank. It’s tough on the young guys as well. But if we continue losing the way we are it’s an automatic tank as is.

Having a lottery pick is enticing.

Nurse wouldn't have to do anything. He still has to do the best job he can, its up to Masai/Webster to set the direction.

macNcheese3 · Post #292 » by **macNcheese3** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 5:59 pm

KL78192020 wrote:
macNcheese3 wrote:It’s hard to tank. Nurse seems like he is definitely not the right coach to lead a tank. It’s tough on the young guys as well. But if we continue losing the way we are it’s an automatic tank as is.

Having a lottery pick is enticing.

Nurse wouldn't have to do anything. He still has to do the best job he can, its up to Masai/Webster to set the direction.

Fair answer and I believe that’s how it works.

Mark_83 · Post #293 » by **Mark_83** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 6:04 pm

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:
C-R-E-A-M- wrote:2021 Offseason

1. Cunningham or Mobley
2. Max Contract slot
3. Trade Siakam

ye well said, suggs is also a good shout, need to somehow get rid of siakam asap, he is the next wiggins

Only way we're getting rid of Siakam is in exchange for Wiggins.

Yeezus_ · Post #294 » by **Yeezus_** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 6:09 pm

Kingsway_fan wrote:
MixxSRC wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:If we could land a top five pick... I am OK with this... need to find a way to trade og and pascal offseason and let baynes andblen expire...

Build around Flynn, Fred, boucher,...

We are not building around Boucher.

Not core agreed, but still need to extend... we have no bigs...OG is not core.... nor is Pascal.... but we may be stuck with them short term ...

OG is definitely a part of the core, not sure why you think otherwise. He's a top 5 defender in the league and is 23 years old averaging 12/7/2 even while he's struggling. Relax.

Yeezus_ · Post #295 » by **Yeezus_** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 6:10 pm

Some of yall really have zero patience to see things through.

Post #296 » by **Duffman100** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 6:12 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
MixxSRC wrote:
We are not building around Boucher.

Not core agreed, but still need to extend... we have no bigs...OG is not core.... nor is Pascal.... but we may be stuck with them short term ...

OG is definitely a part of the core, not sure why you think otherwise. He's a top 5 defender in the league and is 23 years old averaging 12/7/2 even while he's struggling. Relax.

People are impatient. Even last night, despite the poor shooting, OG was a positive on the floor. 17, 7 and 3 on 5/11 shooting.

Once his shooting starts to normalize, there's ZERO reason to get rid of a 23 year old SF like that.

JD143726 · Post #297 » by **JD143726** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 6:21 pm

"The ship be sinkin.'" - Jalen Rose

Hulk_Hogan · Post #298 » by **Hulk_Hogan** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 6:25 pm

JD143726 wrote:"The ship be sinkin.'" - Jalen Rose

Someone needs to send Shea Hillenbrand to the locker room with a sharpie brother.

Tortiglioni · Post #299 » by **Tortiglioni** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 6:26 pm

OG on his contract is a steal and he is easily the best long-term player on the team.

Outside of OG the roster is complete trash. I'm pro tank so am quite happy with the roster construction, but it is honestly embarrassing if management (Masai/Webster) thinks they have put together a good team.

Anticon · Post #300 » by **Anticon** » Sun Jan 3, 2021 6:27 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
Not core agreed, but still need to extend... we have no bigs...OG is not core.... nor is Pascal.... but we may be stuck with them short term ...

OG is definitely a part of the core, not sure why you think otherwise. He's a top 5 defender in the league and is 23 years old averaging 12/7/2 even while he's struggling. Relax.

People are impatient. Even last night, despite the poor shooting, OG was a positive on the floor. 17, 7 and 3 on 5/11 shooting.

Once his shooting starts to normalize, there's ZERO reason to get rid of a 23 year old SF like that.

I feel like there must be overlap between the people that thought Terrence Ross was better than DeRozan and the people that want to bail on OG.