Sweater Vest Thread #5: Magic 103 - Cavs 83

Post #1 » by **Knightro** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:26 am

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2020-2021 Vests
Fultz: 2
Vucevic: 1
Gordon: 0.5
Fournier 0.5

Cummerbunds
Ross: 1.5
Bacon: 1
Fournier: 0.5
Gordon 0.5
Carter-Williams 0.5

Mittens
Ross: 1.5
Vucevic: 1
Fultz: 1
Carter-Williams 0.5

Post #2 » by **Knightro** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:27 am

Vest - Gordon
Cummerbund - Vucevic
Mittens - Birch

j-ragg · Post #3 » by **j-ragg** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:38 am

AG
Vuc
Ross

PigsEatHam · Post #4 » by **PigsEatHam** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:03 am

I'd like to give the vest to the OP for making Bamba being among the living as a poll option.

In lieu of that, this easily goes to Gordon.

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MagicFan101 · Post #5 » by **MagicFan101** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:09 am

AG
Vuc
Void - no one else deserves mention

Post #6 » by **SOUL** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:15 am

MagicFan101 wrote:AG
Vuc
Void - no one else deserves mention

Really/ Cole and Birch did some work off the bench (besides Cole's shooting)

Ducklett · Post #7 » by **Ducklett** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:27 am

I voted for Bamba for the meme.

CPBalla2003 n da 863 · Post #8 » by **CPBalla2003 n da 863** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 4:00 am

AG bringing it the whole game and calling out the effort at halftime... Leads the charge in the 3rd quarter. Hopefully that Hamstring is getting better day by day.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #9 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 4:30 am

AG
Vooch
Birch
But i voted for Cole for the block and making Cedi and Sexton slam into each other.

Shout out to Vooch doing a great job on Drummond by fronting him. Not to mention hes now got drummond twice with that little three pivot shake in the key. I dont know why people are always concerned with Drummond. "Vooch is gonna have trouble" first of all, hes a beast and gives a lot of guys trouble but their match ups have been pretty even.

Really glad to see Bamba get some burn. Props to his "stuck on the bench/quarantine" look. Without Fournier we need big nights from 3 by AG because our spacing is trash with MCW in the SL.

drsd · Post #10 » by **drsd** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 8:45 am

Gordon's three ball gets him the vest but Vučević is a clear cummerbund.

Love Birch for the mittens. He was more effective than Ross to me.

p.s. Bacon really stepped up in this game, where he could have been the weak-link.

drsd · Post #11 » by **drsd** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 8:53 am

MagicFan101 wrote:Void - no one else deserves mention

Birch had a double-double.

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pepe1991 · Post #12 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 9:42 am

7 games in, 5 wins, Vuc won one west while:
leading team in points (21,7 ppg)
leading team in rebounds ( 11 rpg)
third in assists ( 3,1)
leading team in blocks ( 0,6)
third in steals
leading team in effective field goal percentage
second in true shooting percentage
leading team in BPM
leading team in OBPM
leading team in PER
leading team in 3 point percentage

Guy over 7 games should be considered honorable mention of MVP candidates, yet... 1 vets

No bias there in voting, for sure :rofl:

Ducklett · Post #13 » by **Ducklett** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 10:22 am

pepe1991 wrote:7 games in, 5 wins, Vuc won one west while:
leading team in points (21,7 ppg)
leading team in rebounds ( 11 rpg)
third in assists ( 3,1)
leading team in blocks ( 0,6)
third in steals
leading team in effective field goal percentage
second in true shooting percentage
leading team in BPM
leading team in OBPM
leading team in PER
leading team in 3 point percentage

Guy over 7 games should be considered honorable mention of MVP candidates, yet... 1 vets

No bias there in voting, for sure

It is an award with no meaning pepe that is based on individual games. Vuc played very poorly the first few and has been the Goat the last few. But sometimes players have a better individual game than he does. I think you are a very intelligent person, but I don't see how this thread series always confuses you O.o

pepe1991 · Post #14 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 10:25 am

Ducklett wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:7 games in, 5 wins, Vuc won one west while:
leading team in points (21,7 ppg)
leading team in rebounds ( 11 rpg)
third in assists ( 3,1)
leading team in blocks ( 0,6)
third in steals
leading team in effective field goal percentage
second in true shooting percentage
leading team in BPM
leading team in OBPM
leading team in PER
leading team in 3 point percentage

Guy over 7 games should be considered honorable mention of MVP candidates, yet... 1 vets

No bias there in voting, for sure

It is an award with no meaning pepe that is based on individual games. Vuc played very poorly the first few and has been the Goat the last few. But sometimes players have a better individual game than he does. I think you are a very intelligent person, but I don't see how this thread series always confuses you O.o

i don't know why ever even bother looking at this topic , it always gets under my nervs for some reason :lol:

btw thx

zaymon · Post #15 » by **zaymon** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 11:19 am

Btw Vucevic was better than Gordon. Gordon hit some catch and shoots 3s, did his usual dumb shots and turnovers and was good on defense while Vucevic did everything on offense while having his best defensive game of the year. Numbers are better with Vucevic, eye test was better with Vucevic, clearly AG vest as usual.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #16 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 12:55 pm

pepe1991 wrote:7 games in, 5 wins, Vuc won one west while:
leading team in points (21,7 ppg)
leading team in rebounds ( 11 rpg)
third in assists ( 3,1)
leading team in blocks ( 0,6)
third in steals
leading team in effective field goal percentage
second in true shooting percentage
leading team in BPM
leading team in OBPM
leading team in PER
leading team in 3 point percentage

Guy over 7 games should be considered honorable mention of MVP candidates, yet... 1 vets

No bias there in voting, for sure

Well he’s the best player on the team and he’ll get his against anyone. AG getting hot was crucial even if it’s unrealistic that he’ll shoot the three that well often. Unfortunately without Evan it’s what we need. The spacing in that starting unit is atrocious.

drsd · Post #17 » by **drsd** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 1:05 pm

zaymon wrote:Btw Vucevic was better than Gordon. Gordon hit some catch and shoots 3s, did his usual dumb shots and turnovers and was good on defense while Vucevic did everything on offense while having his best defensive game of the year. Numbers are better with Vucevic, eye test was better with Vucevic, clearly AG vest as usual.

Gordon also had 6 offensive rebounds and was a double-double player this game. I think it is the rebounding and 3-ball that is why Gordon will win this over Vučević.

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zaymon · Post #18 » by **zaymon** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 1:56 pm

drsd wrote:
zaymon wrote:Btw Vucevic was better than Gordon. Gordon hit some catch and shoots 3s, did his usual dumb shots and turnovers and was good on defense while Vucevic did everything on offense while having his best defensive game of the year. Numbers are better with Vucevic, eye test was better with Vucevic, clearly AG vest as usual.

Gordon also had 6 offensive rebounds and was a double-double player this game. I think it is the rebounding and 3-ball that is why Gordon will win this over Vučević.

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He had 6 offensive rebounds becouse he rebounded of misses of his offensive rebounds. Dont get me wrong he had a great game, second best player tonight on our team.

Tarheel · Post #19 » by **Tarheel** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:18 pm

It's more of an indictment against Gordon - Vuc is expected to put these performances in consistently.

Gordon doing so is more abnormal and therefore more noticeable.

Early days, but Vuc is having an all-star start to the season IMO.

Post #20 » by **Knightro** » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:30 pm

Tarheel wrote:It's more of an indictment against Gordon - Vuc is expected to put these performances in consistently.

Gordon doing so is more abnormal and therefore more noticeable.

Early days, but Vuc is having an all-star start to the season IMO.

This is an interesting discussion point.

Vucevic the last three years has consistently been a 20-11-4 guy. So when he puts up a 23-8-2 on a given night, it's certainly a very good game, but ultimately kind of a normal game based on the amount of shots he gets and his own established standard of play.

Gordon over the last three years has been a 15-7-3 guy. So when he puts up a 24-11 and ties his career high in 3PT made, it's much more eye popping and arguably more impactful because he went well above and beyond what he normally gives.

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