The (un)official Lowry megathread: What is Lowry worth and trade ideas?

Post #81 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jan 6, 2021 2:03 pm

Milwaukee Bucks, what could have been.

Post #82 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:25 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:Lowry and James Johnson to Boston

Tim Hardaway Jr, Carson Edwards and a pick from Boston and Dallas to Toronto

Kemba Walker and Javonte Graham to Dallas

That work out?
Dallas gets another playmaker/shooter who is locked up longer than lowry.
Toronto doesnt take on any meaningful salary and shed salary immediately(10 million) gain a few late picks
Boston sheds long term salary of Kemba and brings in a savy vet Lowry to run point and hopefully sell him on resigning cheaper.

Kemba
Doncic
Richardson
FineySmith
KP

FVV
THJ
OG
Siakam
Baynes

Lowry
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Theis

Since Dallas is paying the price for Lowry, why are they taking on Kemba's risk and letting the Celtics have Lowry? I think Dallas either cuts Boston out(most likely) or Boston pays Dallas to take Kemba so they can get Lowry.

Post #83 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:56 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:Lowry and James Johnson to Boston

Tim Hardaway Jr, Carson Edwards and a pick from Boston and Dallas to Toronto

Kemba Walker and Javonte Graham to Dallas

That work out?
Dallas gets another playmaker/shooter who is locked up longer than lowry.
Toronto doesnt take on any meaningful salary and shed salary immediately(10 million) gain a few late picks
Boston sheds long term salary of Kemba and brings in a savy vet Lowry to run point and hopefully sell him on resigning cheaper.

Kemba
Doncic
Richardson
FineySmith
KP

FVV
THJ
OG
Siakam
Baynes

Lowry
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Theis

What picks are you taking about? If I remember Dallas can't trade a first since they owe The Knicks a couple picks as per the Porzingis deal. I don't think Toronto wants Carsen Edwards I mean what's his role a guy fighting with guys like Watson, Bembry and others for pt? Boston's pick probably is going to be late and THJ does nothing for Toronto. This is just giving Lowry away. Boston is stealing value from Dallas

Post #84 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:59 pm

RonaldArtest wrote:
Bentley1225 wrote:
Mr Swagtastic wrote:Man some of these "offers" are insulting. Really Danny Green, Ferg, Scott and a extremely late pick is hot garbage. Danny Green sucks, Ferg is out of the league after his deal. Mike Scott is okay and the pick sucks. Any Philly deal includes Thybulle or Maxey or no deal.

James Johnson and Brunson also aren't going to get a deal done.

Thybulle and the Philly 2021 1st gets it done (along with Bembry/Davis; Green/Scott/Fergusson)

Swap Davis with McCaw or another piece and I think it looks fair.

Yeah I could live with that only little problem is Toronto can't shoot after this Thybulle is a great defender like OG but neither are what you would ever consider consistent three point shooters. I know that it's probably nit picking but Toronto asks that Davis stays here and Johnson or McCaw head to Philly with Lowry.

I would look to immediately move Danny Green to another team because he has no role here

patman66 · Post #85 » by **patman66** » Wed Jan 6, 2021 5:21 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:Lowry and James Johnson to Boston

Tim Hardaway Jr, Carson Edwards and a pick from Boston and Dallas to Toronto

Kemba Walker and Javonte Graham to Dallas

That work out?
Dallas gets another playmaker/shooter who is locked up longer than lowry.
Toronto doesnt take on any meaningful salary and shed salary immediately(10 million) gain a few late picks
Boston sheds long term salary of Kemba and brings in a savy vet Lowry to run point and hopefully sell him on resigning cheaper.

Kemba
Doncic
Richardson
FineySmith
KP

FVV
THJ
OG
Siakam
Baynes

Lowry
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Theis

Since Dallas is paying the price for Lowry, why are they taking on Kemba's risk and letting the Celtics have Lowry? I think Dallas either cuts Boston out(most likely) or Boston pays Dallas to take Kemba so they can get Lowry.

cut boston out. We give a first, Kemba and have to pay Johnson 15 mill. all this to imporve on Pritchard/Smart/teague/Kemba.

Lowry has to go to a team that needs a pg, not to a team like the celts for an incremental improvement. and losing 1/2 our TPE for a player we have no interest in keeping in Johnson.

just send Hardaway to toronto for Lowry and Johnson to carolina for Graham then.

AbC? · Post #86 » by **AbC?** » Thu Jan 7, 2021 7:17 am

Lowry to Philly just makes too much sense not to happen IMO.

He gets to go home and compete for a championship. Optics are very important when trading the best player in franchise history.
Morey knows his value. Embiid has always been chummy with him.
https://clutchpoints.com/rockets-news-daryl-morey-says-trading-for-kyle-lowry-in-2009-was-his-best-move-as-a-gm/

Read on Twitter

He's still absurdly impactful.
He can be re-signed for a reasonable figure
They have the combination of expirings and youth to make a deal work.

Green and Scott to match salaries. Maxey and/or Thybulle and a 1st round pick(s) as the incentive. Do it.

Post #87 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu Jan 7, 2021 4:09 pm

Yeah the good news is that Philly has the salary to match, they have Thybulle and Maxey, they have picks. So there’s something to work out there if both sides are motivated.

Jtoneller1 · Post #88 » by **Jtoneller1** » Thu Jan 7, 2021 6:07 pm

TOR: Lowry, 2022 1st Round Pick
OKC: Horford, 2021 1st Round Pick (OKC)

OKC gets out of the final 2 years of Horfords deal. The price is a pick downgrade. We get two lottery picks to rebuild as well as upgrade a big weakness with a high character vet who will expire when we are ready to contend again.

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mademan · Post #89 » by **mademan** » Thu Jan 7, 2021 6:40 pm

Jtoneller1 wrote:TOR: Lowry, 2022 1st Round Pick
OKC: Horford, 2021 1st Round Pick (OKC)

OKC gets out of the final 2 years of Horfords deal. The price is a pick downgrade. We get two lottery picks to rebuild as well as upgrade a big weakness with a high character vet who will expire when we are ready to contend again.

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OKC has no reason to care about Horford's contract. Theyre not in the tax

rapsrealm · Post #90 » by **rapsrealm** » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:01 am

Toronto trades Lowry

Miami trades: Olynk, Iguadala and Robinson

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Yenrallik1111 · Post #91 » by **Yenrallik1111** » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:09 am

rapsrealm wrote:Toronto trades Lowry

Miami trades: Olynk, Iguadala and Robinson

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Iggy should not be part of it. leave the vet in Miami. but Kelly O and robinson would be nice, maybe add Goran. can not see the heat getting on board though

Kreamy · Post #92 » by **Kreamy** » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:39 am

3-way trade with the Raptors, Sixers and Pacers.

Raptors receive Myles Turner / Tyrese Maxey / Danny Green / Mike Scott / 2021 PHI #1

Sixers receive Kyle Lowry / Alex Len / Patrick McCaw

Pacers receive Norman Powell / Tony Bradley / Matisse Thybulle

Topofthekey · Post #93 » by **Topofthekey** » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:29 am

Kreamy wrote:3-way trade with the Raptors, Sixers and Pacers.

Raptors receive Myles Turner / Tyrese Maxey / Danny Green / Mike Scott / 2021 PHI #1

Sixers receive Kyle Lowry / Alex Len / Patrick McCaw

Pacers receive Norman Powell / Tony Bradley / Matisse Thybulle

Terrible for the Pacers

Pacers have zero reason to be interested in that

GutUNC · Post #94 » by **GutUNC** » Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:39 pm

Topofthekey wrote:
Kreamy wrote:3-way trade with the Raptors, Sixers and Pacers.

Raptors receive Myles Turner / Tyrese Maxey / Danny Green / Mike Scott / 2021 PHI #1

Sixers receive Kyle Lowry / Alex Len / Patrick McCaw

Pacers receive Norman Powell / Tony Bradley / Matisse Thybulle

Terrible for the Pacers

Pacers have zero reason to be interested in that

This is a Maxey too heavy for the Sixers too.

jimmy keys · Post #95 » by **jimmy keys** » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:16 pm

Toronto Trades: Lowry + Powell
Denver Trades: Harris + Barton + Bol Bol + 2021 1st Round Pick , 2023 & 2024 2nd round picks.

Toronto takes on salary + a prospect + picks for Lowry & Powell. Denver shakes things up and gets two vets to make a push for a deep playoff run.

Denver Lineup

Lowry
Murray
Porter Jr.
Millsap
Jokic

Powell 6th man

rapsrealm · Post #96 » by **rapsrealm** » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:19 am

Toronto trades: Lowry, Davis

Philadelphia trades: Green, Scott, Maxey, Thybulle

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GutUNC · Post #97 » by **GutUNC** » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:37 am

rapsrealm wrote:Toronto trades: Lowry, Davis

Philadelphia trades: Green, Scott, Maxey, Thybulle

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Don't get your hopes up.

PhillyNj · Post #98 » by **PhillyNj** » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:44 am

GutUNC wrote:
rapsrealm wrote:Toronto trades: Lowry, Davis

Philadelphia trades: Green, Scott, Maxey, Thybulle

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Don't get your hopes up.

Correct . No shot maxes is traded for Lowry. Well just sign him to the mle next season.

GutUNC · Post #99 » by **GutUNC** » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:51 am

PhillyNj wrote:
GutUNC wrote:
rapsrealm wrote:Toronto trades: Lowry, Davis

Philadelphia trades: Green, Scott, Maxey, Thybulle

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Don't get your hopes up.

Correct . No shot maxes is traded for Lowry. Well just sign him to the mle next season.

Yeah.....I'm not going there :lol:

I like Lowry's fit but to give up all that for 1 postseason wouldn't add up.

mademan · Post #100 » by **mademan** » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:11 am

PhillyNj wrote:
GutUNC wrote:
rapsrealm wrote:Toronto trades: Lowry, Davis

Philadelphia trades: Green, Scott, Maxey, Thybulle

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Don't get your hopes up.

Correct . No shot maxes is traded for Lowry. Well just sign him to the mle next season.

good luck. Lowry is about to be the best FA available in a class many teams were preparing for. Lots of teams have cap space and not much to spend it on. Even at 36, dude's primed to get a decent pay day, if only for 1-2 years. I can see Miami giving him 2/40 or something along those lines or even Dallas doing the same

I think 1st/Thybulle/filler is fair tho