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2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1

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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1581 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jan 6, 2021 4:11 pm

2010 wrote:Cam Thomas is indeed a problem. Not a real PG but nevermind that! Dude is a player.

He’s been on my radar but I think he might be a 6th man type player
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1582 » by BugginOut » Wed Jan 6, 2021 4:49 pm

2010 wrote:;feature=youtu.be

Mobley looks like he has that Anthony Davis/Christian Wood type offensive game. With his shooting and defensive versatility he could definitely play with Mitch. The one thing about the top of this draft is that they all potentially fit with our team as currently constructed.
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Post#1583 » by 2010 » Wed Jan 6, 2021 6:05 pm

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2010 wrote:Cam Thomas is indeed a problem. Not a real PG but nevermind that! Dude is a player.

He’s been on my radar but I think he might be a 6th man type player


I'll take that. Dude hits the three at a good clip on very high volumes. He is also a 90%+ FT shooter on a high volume of attempts. Whenever I see a prospect with good 3pt shooting and FT shooting %'s on a high # of attempts, I project him to be an efficient scorer. Quickley is one, we need more of those.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1584 » by Fat » Wed Jan 6, 2021 7:06 pm

HEZI wrote:
Angryfatboy wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Well that's intriguing for sure


Yeah he’s a smooth athletic scorer with 3 level scoring ability and can create his own shot, good rebounder, strong in transition, 6”5 with a 6”9 wingspan for a guard.

If I’m going to give him a con it’s that His playmAking isn’t there, he shows flashes but it’s not his strength and he needs to get stronger he already looks stronger than his freshman year so he seems to be on pace in that department.


Where do you rank him among some of the other guys like a Josh Christopher for example?


As far as shooting guards? If I had to rank them

Tier 1
Jalen green

Tier 2
Bouknight
Moody
Boston (out of generosity)
Keon

Tier 3
Thomas
Christopher
Shannon
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Post#1585 » by Fat » Wed Jan 6, 2021 8:01 pm

2010 wrote:
Angryfatboy wrote:I’m surprised guys not on the James bouknight wagon yet. He’s got the athleticism, handles, and scoring package.


I’m staying away from Bouknight and Christopher. These guys need to dominate the rock to be effective and I question their ability to play team ball. They fall in the Trier category if you ask me. And let’s be honest, they aren’t coming here and getting the offense ran through them. So the question becomes, if they aren’t putting up a high volume of shots, what else can they contribute besides scoring?

Thibs has the current Knicks teams sharing the ball. I think we need to continue to draft players who fit the culture that is being established.


I’m not a fan of Christopher he is probably more trier than bouknight is.

Bouknight isn’t my first choice but if the Knicks happen to play themselves out of a high lottery pick and he’s there I’d take him. Are the Knicks really above not needing an athletic high upside shot maker that can handle the ball, attack the rim and pull up from 3?

He’s a 6”5 SG with good length and lateral quickness the defense isn’t much of a concern.

Knicks might be playing well but they aren’t in a situation yet where they can afford to take fit over talent.
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Post#1586 » by cgf » Wed Jan 6, 2021 8:27 pm

I don't like the archetype in general, and Bouknight is a tier above Christopher at the NCAA level. But I think both will at least be useful bench microwaves at the next level.

My big question with both is whether they'll be able to do it efficiently enough at the NBA level to become the next Mitchell/Booker late-drafted scoring star.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1587 » by Fat » Wed Jan 6, 2021 9:13 pm

Cade
Suggs
Jalen
Mobley
Kuminga

Seem like locks to go top 5 but it’s early

Who y’all predict is the next 5 to fill out the top 10 at the end of the road?
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1588 » by cgf » Wed Jan 6, 2021 9:24 pm

Angryfatboy wrote:Cade
Suggs
Jalen
Mobley
Kuminga

Seem like locks to go top 5 but it’s early

Who y’all predict is the next 5 to fill out the top 10 at the end of the road?


Ask me again in 2 months :lol:
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1589 » by Polk377 » Thu Jan 7, 2021 10:59 pm

I think it is safe to say that with our Kentucky connection lining up a guy we should have our eye on is none other than Obi's younger brother SF Jacob Toppin. He is still a project but is the same jump out the gym dunker as Obi and a more fluid athlete. If he declares lock him in as a 2nd round target.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1590 » by cgf » Fri Jan 8, 2021 3:56 am

F***in da Silva wastes a gorgeous quick pass from Ziaire.


Good thing he already has his triple double -- 11pts, 11 rebounds, 10 assists, 2steals, 2 blocks when I turned it on.

EDIT:
Nevermind, apparently 1 of his assists was given to someone else. Still needs #10.

EDIT2:
there it is. 12-12-10-2-2 to end his night.

I want to watch RJ, Ziaire & Julius/Obi creating together. The ball movement would be too pretty.
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Post#1592 » by cgf » Fri Jan 8, 2021 2:59 pm




Gimme gimme gimme.

Use both picks to trade up for him if we have to. I need to see how pretty our passing would be with RJ, Ziaire & Julius anchoring the offense...any of them capable of going off for a triple-double on any given night, while doing it in their own ways so that their synergy should make each of them better at doing their thing, rather than see them getting in each other's way.

Throw in Mitch starting to pick up some Noah-dishes, Quickley/Rivers at the point, and Obi coming off the bench looking like he's going to be a high assist rate guy; that's just my kinda basketball...even if the shooting takes some time to get there.
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Post#1593 » by RHODEY » Fri Jan 8, 2021 9:01 pm

cgf wrote:


Gimme gimme gimme.

Use both picks to trade up for him if we have to. I need to see how pretty our passing would be with RJ, Ziaire & Julius anchoring the offense...any of them capable of going off for a triple-double on any given night, while doing it in their own ways so that their synergy should make each of them better at doing their thing, rather than see them getting in each other's way.

Throw in Mitch starting to pick up some Noah-dishes, Quickley/Rivers at the point, and Obi coming off the bench looking like he's going to be a high assist rate guy; that's just my kinda basketball...even if the shooting takes some time to get there.

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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1594 » by cgf » Sat Jan 9, 2021 3:26 am

RHODEY wrote:
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Gimme gimme gimme.

Use both picks to trade up for him if we have to. I need to see how pretty our passing would be with RJ, Ziaire & Julius anchoring the offense...any of them capable of going off for a triple-double on any given night, while doing it in their own ways so that their synergy should make each of them better at doing their thing, rather than see them getting in each other's way.

Throw in Mitch starting to pick up some Noah-dishes, Quickley/Rivers at the point, and Obi coming off the bench looking like he's going to be a high assist rate guy; that's just my kinda basketball...even if the shooting takes some time to get there.

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:lol: I may have been overexcited, but it was awesome getting to finally see the kind of game out of Ziaire that I've been seeing flashes of & he's really been building towards since they came back from their break.
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Post#1595 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Jan 9, 2021 3:41 am

Polk377 wrote:I think it is safe to say that with our Kentucky connection lining up a guy we should have our eye on is none other than Obi's younger brother SF Jacob Toppin. He is still a project but is the same jump out the gym dunker as Obi and a more fluid athlete. If he declares lock him in as a 2nd round target.


let's see if the 1st Toppin is any decent before we start w/ another. I'm having my doubts about the pick. thought they should've gone PG
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1596 » by cgf » Sat Jan 9, 2021 3:52 am

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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1597 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Jan 9, 2021 4:02 am

anyone know how the play-in tournament would affect the draft positioning?

side-note: play-in tournament is ridiculous. that's what the regular season is for
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1 

Post#1598 » by Polk377 » Sat Jan 9, 2021 3:03 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
Polk377 wrote:I think it is safe to say that with our Kentucky connection lining up a guy we should have our eye on is none other than Obi's younger brother SF Jacob Toppin. He is still a project but is the same jump out the gym dunker as Obi and a more fluid athlete. If he declares lock him in as a 2nd round target.


let's see if the 1st Toppin is any decent before we start w/ another. I'm having my doubts about the pick. thought they should've gone PG

You're having doubts after 1 game? Obi Toppin at worst will be a serviceable role player. What PG other than Ball would have made any impact?
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Post#1599 » by Polk377 » Sat Jan 9, 2021 3:09 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:anyone know how the play-in tournament would affect the draft positioning?

side-note: play-in tournament is ridiculous. that's what the regular season is for

Football and Baseball each have a wildcard game. Play in adds a level of excitement to end the season and gives a chance to those teams that are usually within a game of each other in the 7-10 range to prove they deserve a spot in the playoffs.
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