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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#1541 » by MGB8 » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:42 pm

Little Nathan wrote:Bagley can't pass, can't really shoot, is a meh shot blocker and overall weak interior defender and he definitely can't keep up with smaller perimeter players on defense. How is that a "modern big"? IMO his best position is very clearly center, where he can certainly do some things for you on offense, but the Kangz obviously can't admit that because then they would probably also have to admit that the guy they drafted over Luka is not even their best center right now. Oh, and he's injured a lot.

That pick really was an all-timer in terms of the worst picks ever.


There was a lot of debate about whether Luka would translate or not.

Meanwhile, I wasn't a big fan of Bagley in the draft (certainly preferred JJJ over him), but I think this is bad take.

Bagley shot 81% from the stripe last year - albeit on small sample size - and 69% as a rookie (not good, but not "can't shoot" bad). He shot 31% from 3 as a rook on decent volume - again, not good, but particularly for a rookie not terrible. In college, he shot nearly 40% from 3 on a greater volume than Carter did. But mostly the selling point for Bagley was a combination of athleticism with some promise on the shooting - kind of like Carter, with much more athleticism and natural scoring ability, much less defensive awareness.

I wouldn't be looking to trade much of significant for Bagley - maybe someone along the lines of Hutch or Valentine (and that's if Sacramento would take that kind of return). At the same time, he did look good as a rookie and as a "buy low" candidate, I'd be very interested. These are the types of low cost gambles that you make that if they pay off, great, and if not, no big loss.
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Post#1542 » by Andi Obst » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:54 pm

MGB8 wrote:There was a lot of debate about whether Luka would translate or not.


Which was ridiculous then and looks even worse now.

MGB8 wrote:I wouldn't be looking to trade much of significant for Bagley - maybe someone along the lines of Hutch or Valentine (and that's if Sacramento would take that kind of return). At the same time, he did look good as a rookie and as a "buy low" candidate, I'd be very interested. These are the types of low cost gambles that you make that if they pay off, great, and if not, no big loss.


So what you're saying is you would give up fringe NBA players for 21-year-old Marvin Bagley. But my take that the Kings took the guy over a generational talent is an all-time terrible move is bad? I don't understand.
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Post#1543 » by MGB8 » Tue Jan 5, 2021 2:58 pm

Did want to bring up my Charlotte trade idea again, though.

White/Carter/Sato for Rozier and Miles Bridges - though thinking about it I think Charlotte would have to add a heavily protected 1st.

Rozier has yet to turn 27 and may be having a bit of a breakout year - at least in terms of shooting percentages. Though it's probably more of a hot streak, but worth watching. Still, he's a very good 3 point shooter and a decent enough point guard who is a willing (if not particularly good) defender. At the same time, aside from one season in Boston, he's basically been a net negative player - so you'd have to believe that he has some room to grow on both ends (which may be occurring this season).

Meanwhile, Miles Bridges is a guy I liked in the 2018 draft who has a lot of talent, looks like he has been (slowly) developing into a nice power wing (who can play some small-ball 4) - kind of a better, less injury prone version of Hutchinson.

Charlotte should consider it because it adjusts it pieces to start building the team around LaMelo. And, after seeing LaMelo at the beginning of this season - I think he is going to end up a top-10 in the NBA player and probably the best player in the 2020 draft class. The quickness, ball handling and passing all translate, and the shot and defensive effort is improved. Of course, him getting to that level assumes that he continues to really work on his game and body like top players need to do.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #2 

Post#1544 » by MGB8 » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:04 pm

Little Nathan wrote:
MGB8 wrote:There was a lot of debate about whether Luka would translate or not.


Which was ridiculous then and looks even worse now.

MGB8 wrote:I wouldn't be looking to trade much of significant for Bagley - maybe someone along the lines of Hutch or Valentine (and that's if Sacramento would take that kind of return). At the same time, he did look good as a rookie and as a "buy low" candidate, I'd be very interested. These are the types of low cost gambles that you make that if they pay off, great, and if not, no big loss.


So what you're saying is you would give up fringe NBA players for 21-year-old Marvin Bagley. But my take that the Kings took the guy over a generational talent is an all-time terrible move is bad? I don't understand.


I don't think it was ridiculous to question whether Luka would translate or not. Lots of folks questioned whether LaMelo Ball would translate for somewhat similar reasons. Ditto Trae Young. Honestly, I think folks failed to take into account the more offense friendly perimeter rules in their evaluations of all these guys; in a more physical on-the-perimeter NBA, I don't know that they'd be translating nearly as well.

4 teams passed on Luka - and except for Atlanta, who got both Trae and another pick to move back, all of them look like they made a mistake. Ayton is kind of one dimensional. JJJ has been constantly hurt. Bagley hurt and Luke Walton'ed (which is almost as bad as Boylen'ed).

Meanwhile, between the athletic profile, college production, positive reports on attitude, and promising signs for shooting potential, there was a lot to like in Bagley. Sure, I wouldn't have taken him at #2, and Sactown should have gambled on Luka given their roster. But he wasn't some sort of terrible prospect.
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Post#1545 » by Andi Obst » Tue Jan 5, 2021 3:12 pm

MGB8 wrote:But he wasn't some sort of terrible prospect.


Which is not what I'm saying. He was a fine prospect and he could still become a useful big, but they took him over a franchise-changing player who was, even if you had some concerns back then, a better prospect by a wide margin for almost everyone. They blew it, plain and simple.
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Post#1546 » by HomoSapien » Tue Jan 5, 2021 10:13 pm

We've all talked about how Chris Paul was someone who could jumpstart this rebuild. We saw him do it in OKC and we're currently witnessing him doing it in Phoenix. I still strongly believe that we need a veteran point guard to help propel this team as well. We need a leader who can tell Lauri to be more assertive or continue to feed him the ball while he's hot. We need a leader who Coby can learn from just by watching play the right way. We need a leader who can tell Carter to stop being such an assclown.

I think Kyle Lowry could be that guy. He's a Toronto legend, so I doubt they're anxious to trade him just yet, but they're 1-5 and with no fans at game, this really would be the perfect time to start a rebuild. Lowry's also in his final year, so Toronto may want to get something for him rather than risking losing him for nothing in the off-season.

I can't imagine Lowry's trade value is incredibly high. He makes a lot and is 34-years-old. Maybe a contender would be willing to trade a first-round pick, but I'm not sure how many contenders are in need a starting point guard.

So here's my offer:
Otto Porter, Chandler Hutchison and/or Daniel Gafford, plus a top 20 protected 1st round pick.

It's not a spectacular offer, but it would give Toronto some assets to start the youth movement. There's also a chance that you expand this as a three-team trade and have Porter go to a contender for a protected first-round pick.
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Post#1547 » by cjbulls » Tue Jan 5, 2021 10:21 pm

HomoSapien wrote:We've all talked about how Chris Paul was someone who could jumpstart this rebuild. We saw him do it in OKC and we're currently witnessing him doing it in Phoenix. I still strongly believe that we need a veteran point guard to help propel this team as well. We need a leader who can tell Lauri to be more assertive or continue to feed him the ball while he's hot. We need a leader who Coby can learn from just by watching play the right way. We need a leader who can tell Carter to stop being such an assclown.

I think Kyle Lowry could be that guy. He's a Toronto legend, so I doubt they're anxious to trade him just yet, but they're 1-5 and with no fans at game, this really would be the perfect time to start a rebuild. Lowry's also in his final year, so Toronto may want to get something for him rather than risking losing him for nothing in the off-season.

I can't imagine Lowry's trade value is incredibly high. He makes a lot and is 34-years-old. Maybe a contender would be willing to trade a first-round pick, but I'm not sure how many contenders are in need a starting point guard.

So here's my offer:
Otto Porter, Chandler Hutchison and/or Daniel Gafford, plus a top 20 protected 1st round pick.

It's not a spectacular offer, but it would give Toronto some assets to start the youth movement. There's also a chance that you expand this as a three-team trade and have Porter go to a contender for a protected first-round pick.


I’m in agreement with everything here. The biggest impediment is I don’t see him wanting to be traded to the Bulls. So the Raptors would respect that and only send him where he wanted
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Post#1548 » by sco » Tue Jan 5, 2021 10:24 pm

cjbulls wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:We've all talked about how Chris Paul was someone who could jumpstart this rebuild. We saw him do it in OKC and we're currently witnessing him doing it in Phoenix. I still strongly believe that we need a veteran point guard to help propel this team as well. We need a leader who can tell Lauri to be more assertive or continue to feed him the ball while he's hot. We need a leader who Coby can learn from just by watching play the right way. We need a leader who can tell Carter to stop being such an assclown.

I think Kyle Lowry could be that guy. He's a Toronto legend, so I doubt they're anxious to trade him just yet, but they're 1-5 and with no fans at game, this really would be the perfect time to start a rebuild. Lowry's also in his final year, so Toronto may want to get something for him rather than risking losing him for nothing in the off-season.

I can't imagine Lowry's trade value is incredibly high. He makes a lot and is 34-years-old. Maybe a contender would be willing to trade a first-round pick, but I'm not sure how many contenders are in need a starting point guard.

So here's my offer:
Otto Porter, Chandler Hutchison and/or Daniel Gafford, plus a top 20 protected 1st round pick.

It's not a spectacular offer, but it would give Toronto some assets to start the youth movement. There's also a chance that you expand this as a three-team trade and have Porter go to a contender for a protected first-round pick.


I’m in agreement with everything here. The biggest impediment is I don’t see him wanting to be traded to the Bulls. So the Raptors would respect that and only send him where he wanted

Yeah, I'd rather go after Wall. He looks healthy and is younger.
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Post#1549 » by TheSuzerain » Tue Jan 5, 2021 10:25 pm

MGB8 wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
MGB8 wrote:There was a lot of debate about whether Luka would translate or not.


Which was ridiculous then and looks even worse now.

MGB8 wrote:I wouldn't be looking to trade much of significant for Bagley - maybe someone along the lines of Hutch or Valentine (and that's if Sacramento would take that kind of return). At the same time, he did look good as a rookie and as a "buy low" candidate, I'd be very interested. These are the types of low cost gambles that you make that if they pay off, great, and if not, no big loss.


So what you're saying is you would give up fringe NBA players for 21-year-old Marvin Bagley. But my take that the Kings took the guy over a generational talent is an all-time terrible move is bad? I don't understand.


I don't think it was ridiculous to question whether Luka would translate or not. Lots of folks questioned whether LaMelo Ball would translate for somewhat similar reasons. Ditto Trae Young. Honestly, I think folks failed to take into account the more offense friendly perimeter rules in their evaluations of all these guys; in a more physical on-the-perimeter NBA, I don't know that they'd be translating nearly as well.

4 teams passed on Luka - and except for Atlanta, who got both Trae and another pick to move back, all of them look like they made a mistake. Ayton is kind of one dimensional. JJJ has been constantly hurt. Bagley hurt and Luke Walton'ed (which is almost as bad as Boylen'ed).

Meanwhile, between the athletic profile, college production, positive reports on attitude, and promising signs for shooting potential, there was a lot to like in Bagley. Sure, I wouldn't have taken him at #2, and Sactown should have gambled on Luka given their roster. But he wasn't some sort of terrible prospect.

lol Doncic was Euroleague MVP on the Euroleague champs.

Ball was leading a garbage team in the Aussie league.
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Post#1550 » by HomoSapien » Tue Jan 5, 2021 10:32 pm

cjbulls wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:We've all talked about how Chris Paul was someone who could jumpstart this rebuild. We saw him do it in OKC and we're currently witnessing him doing it in Phoenix. I still strongly believe that we need a veteran point guard to help propel this team as well. We need a leader who can tell Lauri to be more assertive or continue to feed him the ball while he's hot. We need a leader who Coby can learn from just by watching play the right way. We need a leader who can tell Carter to stop being such an assclown.

I think Kyle Lowry could be that guy. He's a Toronto legend, so I doubt they're anxious to trade him just yet, but they're 1-5 and with no fans at game, this really would be the perfect time to start a rebuild. Lowry's also in his final year, so Toronto may want to get something for him rather than risking losing him for nothing in the off-season.

I can't imagine Lowry's trade value is incredibly high. He makes a lot and is 34-years-old. Maybe a contender would be willing to trade a first-round pick, but I'm not sure how many contenders are in need a starting point guard.

So here's my offer:
Otto Porter, Chandler Hutchison and/or Daniel Gafford, plus a top 20 protected 1st round pick.

It's not a spectacular offer, but it would give Toronto some assets to start the youth movement. There's also a chance that you expand this as a three-team trade and have Porter go to a contender for a protected first-round pick.


I’m in agreement with everything here. The biggest impediment is I don’t see him wanting to be traded to the Bulls. So the Raptors would respect that and only send him where he wanted


Good point, that definitely could be a factor. If we can hover around that 8th seed spot, then I think we'd have a chance to be on his list. It's just hard for me to find a team that could really use him as a starter given his age and salary. Maybe Miami, especially if Dragic looks shakey as the season progresses.
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Post#1551 » by Kukoc-Lauri » Tue Jan 5, 2021 11:46 pm

Comparing Luka's international career with Ball is ludacriss. Luka was youngest ever Mvp of Euroleague with 18 yo and Eurobasket winner and won Spanish league with Real Madrid. Real Madrid is one of the biggest brand in world sports and his basketball section had always one of the best non Nba players at the time F.Martin, Walter Sczrerbiak, Drazen Petrovic,Aryvdas Sabonis. Mirotic was also Real player and decent in Nba and he was not nearly as player Luka was. Luka break Euroleague record for youngest player to win Mvp as 18 yo, before that Kukoc at 20, Petrovic at 21, Manu Ginobili at 22, Sabonis in early 20 were youngest to do it. Andrei Kirilenko won Euroleague mvp at the end of his career. Meanwhile Ball played in Lithuanian second league as reality tv show with 3 ppg and last season in worst team in Nbl Australian league. To compare top Euroleague club and bottom club from Australia is like comparing Nba and Lavars Ball jbv big baller league. And of top of that Luka with Dragic beat Porzingis in peak form, beat Serbia with lot of Nba players, Spain,France in European championships. So one guy was maybe most ready and proven of all draft picks in last 15-20 years and one guy was reality slam magazine circus. Any Nba scout who doubt on Luka should be banned from job at least 5 to 10 years.
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Post#1552 » by giannis and 1 » Wed Jan 6, 2021 1:03 am

Kukoc-Lauri wrote:T. Young, L.Kornet for T.Craig and DJ Wilson and two second round picks.

This is something along the lines of what I was thinking about. Only problems is matching salary. If we are able to trade Brook Lopez to a 3rd team, it would work. Unless you guys want Brook yourselves?
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Post#1553 » by Chi town » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:29 am

cjbulls wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:We've all talked about how Chris Paul was someone who could jumpstart this rebuild. We saw him do it in OKC and we're currently witnessing him doing it in Phoenix. I still strongly believe that we need a veteran point guard to help propel this team as well. We need a leader who can tell Lauri to be more assertive or continue to feed him the ball while he's hot. We need a leader who Coby can learn from just by watching play the right way. We need a leader who can tell Carter to stop being such an assclown.

I think Kyle Lowry could be that guy. He's a Toronto legend, so I doubt they're anxious to trade him just yet, but they're 1-5 and with no fans at game, this really would be the perfect time to start a rebuild. Lowry's also in his final year, so Toronto may want to get something for him rather than risking losing him for nothing in the off-season.

I can't imagine Lowry's trade value is incredibly high. He makes a lot and is 34-years-old. Maybe a contender would be willing to trade a first-round pick, but I'm not sure how many contenders are in need a starting point guard.

So here's my offer:
Otto Porter, Chandler Hutchison and/or Daniel Gafford, plus a top 20 protected 1st round pick.

It's not a spectacular offer, but it would give Toronto some assets to start the youth movement. There's also a chance that you expand this as a three-team trade and have Porter go to a contender for a protected first-round pick.


I’m in agreement with everything here. The biggest impediment is I don’t see him wanting to be traded to the Bulls. So the Raptors would respect that and only send him where he wanted


Truth.

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Post#1554 » by 2weekswithpay » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:38 am

HomoSapien wrote:
cjbulls wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:We've all talked about how Chris Paul was someone who could jumpstart this rebuild. We saw him do it in OKC and we're currently witnessing him doing it in Phoenix. I still strongly believe that we need a veteran point guard to help propel this team as well. We need a leader who can tell Lauri to be more assertive or continue to feed him the ball while he's hot. We need a leader who Coby can learn from just by watching play the right way. We need a leader who can tell Carter to stop being such an assclown.

I think Kyle Lowry could be that guy. He's a Toronto legend, so I doubt they're anxious to trade him just yet, but they're 1-5 and with no fans at game, this really would be the perfect time to start a rebuild. Lowry's also in his final year, so Toronto may want to get something for him rather than risking losing him for nothing in the off-season.

I can't imagine Lowry's trade value is incredibly high. He makes a lot and is 34-years-old. Maybe a contender would be willing to trade a first-round pick, but I'm not sure how many contenders are in need a starting point guard.

So here's my offer:
Otto Porter, Chandler Hutchison and/or Daniel Gafford, plus a top 20 protected 1st round pick.

It's not a spectacular offer, but it would give Toronto some assets to start the youth movement. There's also a chance that you expand this as a three-team trade and have Porter go to a contender for a protected first-round pick.


I’m in agreement with everything here. The biggest impediment is I don’t see him wanting to be traded to the Bulls. So the Raptors would respect that and only send him where he wanted


Good point, that definitely could be a factor. If we can hover around that 8th seed spot, then I think we'd have a chance to be on his list. It's just hard for me to find a team that could really use him as a starter given his age and salary. Maybe Miami, especially if Dragic looks shakey as the season progresses.


You think Mike Conley could have the same effect? Conley doesn't have the same the reputation as Lowry but he's been a solid above average PG for a while now. I don't know what Utah would want in return but next year Gobert's and Mitchell's new extensions kick in and while Utah aren't rebuilding, I don't think they'll want to pay the luxury tax for Conley.
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Post#1555 » by HomoSapien » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:41 am

2weekswithpay wrote:
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I’m in agreement with everything here. The biggest impediment is I don’t see him wanting to be traded to the Bulls. So the Raptors would respect that and only send him where he wanted


Good point, that definitely could be a factor. If we can hover around that 8th seed spot, then I think we'd have a chance to be on his list. It's just hard for me to find a team that could really use him as a starter given his age and salary. Maybe Miami, especially if Dragic looks shakey as the season progresses.


You think Mike Conley could have the same effect? Conley doesn't have the same the reputation as Lowry but he's been a solid above average PG for a while now. I don't know what Utah would want in return but next year Gobert's and Mitchell's new extensions kick in and while Utah aren't rebuilding, I don't think they'll want to pay the luxury tax for Conley.


Great suggestion! He's someone we talked about a lot on here prior to the Utah trade, but I sort of forgot about him. He's probably more realistic than Lowry, and Otto and Sotto for him seems like fair compensation on paper.
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Post#1556 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Wed Jan 6, 2021 8:59 am

I wouldnt trade Otto or Thad, they way they are playing. Keep both of them, you need vets and leadership on team.

YOU WANT WINNING? Then dont trade these guys. We need combo of 5 youngs and 5 older guys to compete. We need vet PG who can play uptempo BB.
Trade one of the bigs (Lauri or WCJ), Sato for vet PG.. Maybe add in Denzel or Hutch
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Post#1557 » by dpucane » Wed Jan 6, 2021 3:52 pm

Hypothetical Warriors-go-all-in framework.

I still have no idea how good GMs value Zach so this could be too much or too little. Just focusing on getting good picks here.

Warriors get:

Lavine
Otto
Thad
Sato
Gafford

Bulls get:

Wiggins
Oubre
Biyombo
Looney
'21 MN 1st
'21 CHA 1st

Hornets get:

Wiseman

Maybe not enough from the Bulls or maybe too much. Really depends on how much Ws believe in Zach being able to move the ball and contribute defensively

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Post#1558 » by sco » Wed Jan 6, 2021 6:05 pm

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:I wouldnt trade Otto or Thad, they way they are playing. Keep both of them, you need vets and leadership on team.

YOU WANT WINNING? Then dont trade these guys. We need combo of 5 youngs and 5 older guys to compete. We need vet PG who can play uptempo BB.
Trade one of the bigs (Lauri or WCJ), Sato for vet PG.. Maybe add in Denzel or Hutch

I think it is a mistake not to take calls for both guys. If either guy (even both together) net you a first round pick, you gotta consider it. Otto, if he keeps playing this way, is gonna get paid $25M+ per year on his next deal. I'm not signing up that kinda deal given his durability issues, and if the Bulls FO don't want that risk, they'd be better off selling high than buying high.

I like Thad, but I think he is trade value may be higher than his actual value. A guy like Vonleh could be brought off the street and we wouldn't miss a beat.

I'm not saying that either guy is a "trade for anything" guy, but some contender might pay us some real value for one of them.
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Post#1559 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed Jan 6, 2021 10:31 pm

HomoSapien wrote:We've all talked about how Chris Paul was someone who could jumpstart this rebuild. We saw him do it in OKC and we're currently witnessing him doing it in Phoenix. I still strongly believe that we need a veteran point guard to help propel this team as well. We need a leader who can tell Lauri to be more assertive or continue to feed him the ball while he's hot. We need a leader who Coby can learn from just by watching play the right way. We need a leader who can tell Carter to stop being such an assclown.

I think Kyle Lowry could be that guy. He's a Toronto legend, so I doubt they're anxious to trade him just yet, but they're 1-5 and with no fans at game, this really would be the perfect time to start a rebuild. Lowry's also in his final year, so Toronto may want to get something for him rather than risking losing him for nothing in the off-season.

I can't imagine Lowry's trade value is incredibly high. He makes a lot and is 34-years-old. Maybe a contender would be willing to trade a first-round pick, but I'm not sure how many contenders are in need a starting point guard.

So here's my offer:
Otto Porter, Chandler Hutchison and/or Daniel Gafford, plus a top 20 protected 1st round pick.

It's not a spectacular offer, but it would give Toronto some assets to start the youth movement. There's also a chance that you expand this as a three-team trade and have Porter go to a contender for a protected first-round pick.


I would not include Gafford. I think he is our future starting center.
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Post#1560 » by darbstar » Thu Jan 7, 2021 9:04 am

Would you guys be happy to trade Lauri for Bagley?

Bagley and Wendell back together could really help each other.

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