2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2)

[HarthorneWingo]

He's a POS and is going to be a problem. I'm pretty sure in this case though you'll get one GOP Senator who wants to attach themselves to $2,000 checks to replace Manchin

Stephanie Rhule (idk who that is CNN maybe) was on the pivot podcast. Someone told her Manchin would flip to Rep if Dems win in GA. She called him and asked and he’s hell no.

Not related to what you’re talking about but since we’re talking about him

I called him the new most powerful man in the Senate.

Two things need to happen next. Successful workarounds on the filibuster (I posted about it; it is possible) and a dominant performance in the mid-terms. I don't know who is up for re-election, but the Dems need to figure out how to short circuit the filibuster and then build a cushion in the Senate so they can operate without obstruction. They'll get stuff done this next two years, but it will still be a grind and handicapped by guys like Manchin.

The Senate will attach some West Virginia relief provisions to the stimulus check bill that will make it next to impossible for him to vote against without great risk politically.

[Clyde_Style]

Stephanie Rhule (idk who that is CNN maybe) was on the pivot podcast. Someone told her Manchin would flip to Rep if Dems win in GA. She called him and asked and he’s hell no.

Not related to what you’re talking about but since we’re talking about him

I called him the new most powerful man in the Senate.

Two things need to happen next. Successful workarounds on the filibuster (I posted about it; it is possible) and a dominant performance in the mid-terms. I don't know who is up for re-election, but the Dems need to figure out how to short circuit the filibuster and then build a cushion in the Senate so they can operate without obstruction. They'll get stuff done this next two years, but it will still be a grind and handicapped by guys like Manchin.

The Senate will attach some West Virginia relief provisions to the stimulus check bill that will make it next to impossible for him to vote against without great risk politically.

Now you're talking strategy. Make it so Number One

[Oscirus]

Stephanie Rhule (idk who that is CNN maybe) was on the pivot podcast. Someone told her Manchin would flip to Rep if Dems win in GA. She called him and asked and he’s hell no.

Not related to what you’re talking about but since we’re talking about him

I called him the new most powerful man in the Senate.

Two things need to happen next. Successful workarounds on the filibuster (I posted about it; it is possible) and a dominant performance in the mid-terms. I don't know who is up for re-election, but the Dems need to figure out how to short circuit the filibuster and then build a cushion in the Senate so they can operate without obstruction. They'll get stuff done this next two years, but it will still be a grind and handicapped by guys like Manchin.

The Senate will attach some West Virginia relief provisions to the stimulus check bill that will make it next to impossible for him to vote against without great risk politically.

Dude said no to 2000 dollar checks and voted for Kavanaugh in the year he was up for election, there is no great political risk for him

[Clyde_Style]

Now that Trump's life is over, he remains a menace to the planet in his final days.

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[omerome]

He's a POS and is going to be a problem. I'm pretty sure in this case though you'll get one GOP Senator who wants to attach themselves to $2,000 checks to replace Manchin

Stephanie Rhule (idk who that is CNN maybe) was on the pivot podcast. Someone told her Manchin would flip to Rep if Dems win in GA. She called him and asked and he’s hell no.

Not related to what you’re talking about but since we’re talking about him

I called him the new most powerful man in the Senate.

Two things need to happen next. Successful workarounds on the filibuster (I posted about it; it is possible) and a dominant performance in the mid-terms. I don't know who is up for re-election, but the Dems need to figure out how to short circuit the filibuster and then build a cushion in the Senate so they can operate without obstruction. They'll get stuff done this next two years, but it will still be a grind and handicapped by guys like Manchin.

I will never understand the "logic" that POS people like Manchin use when it comes to being against giving the American people direct payments like $2000. And we're not even talking per month - which honestly should have been done from the beginning.

When you give people direct payments, like say, a family with a baby on the way, guess what they will spend their money on? Goods and services! They will have money (not using credit cards and putting themselves in further debt) to buy diapers, clothes, food, or use it for their monthly rent/mortgage. Or...OR! They can support that new local business down the street that is selling candles or they can help support their friend's family restaurant that has been passed down from their grandfather to keep it from getting shut down.

Giving people direct payments means the money will be spent - which is essentially reinvesting in the country and WILL boost the economy. Why is it an issue to people like him - especially during a once in a lifetime pandemic that giving them assistance is the worst thing ever? I really don't get it. I would say that since someone like Manchin is so against giving people aid, the people should stop giving him a paycheck, but he's already well-off, so it wouldn't make that much of a difference for him. It's really a shame we are even here.

Many other countries have gotten it right, and yet many people think the US is the greatest country in the world while refusing to properly take care of its people...I'm really confused.

[Clyde_Style]

Stephanie Rhule (idk who that is CNN maybe) was on the pivot podcast. Someone told her Manchin would flip to Rep if Dems win in GA. She called him and asked and he’s hell no.

Not related to what you’re talking about but since we’re talking about him

I called him the new most powerful man in the Senate.

Two things need to happen next. Successful workarounds on the filibuster (I posted about it; it is possible) and a dominant performance in the mid-terms. I don't know who is up for re-election, but the Dems need to figure out how to short circuit the filibuster and then build a cushion in the Senate so they can operate without obstruction. They'll get stuff done this next two years, but it will still be a grind and handicapped by guys like Manchin.

I will never understand the "logic" that POS people like Manchin use when it comes to being against giving the American people direct payments like $2000. And we're not even talking per month - which honestly should have been done from the beginning.

When you give people direct payments, like say, a family with a baby on the way, guess what they will spend their money on? Goods and services! They will have money (not using credit cards and putting themselves in further debt) to buy diapers, clothes, food, or use it for their monthly rent/mortgage. Or...OR! They can support that new local business down the street that is selling candles or they can help support their friend's family restaurant that has been passed down from their grandfather to keep it from getting shut down.

Giving people direct payments means the money will be spent - which is essentially reinvesting in the country and WILL boost the economy. Why is it an issue to people like him - especially during a once in a lifetime pandemic that giving them assistance is the worst thing ever? I really don't get it. I would say that since someone like Manchin is so against giving people aid, the people should stop giving him a paycheck, but he's already well-off, so it wouldn't make that much of a difference for him. It's really a shame we are even here.

Many other countries have gotten it right, and yet many people think the US is the greatest country in the world while refusing to properly take care of its people...I'm really confused.

Most of Europe is going to experience a more robust recovery because many of those countries did a good job of keeping people afloat and out of bankruptcy. The carnage in the U.S. will reverberate for a decade since millions will have to rebuild their lives from scratch

[robillionaire]

I called him the new most powerful man in the Senate.

Two things need to happen next. Successful workarounds on the filibuster (I posted about it; it is possible) and a dominant performance in the mid-terms. I don't know who is up for re-election, but the Dems need to figure out how to short circuit the filibuster and then build a cushion in the Senate so they can operate without obstruction. They'll get stuff done this next two years, but it will still be a grind and handicapped by guys like Manchin.

The Senate will attach some West Virginia relief provisions to the stimulus check bill that will make it next to impossible for him to vote against without great risk politically.

Dude said no to 2000 dollar checks and voted for Kavanaugh in the year he was up for election, there is no great political risk for him

The only political risk for him is coming from the right. It's Manchin or a Q lunatic. You aren't getting anybody else from WV. That's why I don't even waste my time being upset with him.

[dakomish23]

This coward pushed the attempted coup and is crying b/c there would be consequences. If Dems don’t bash their head on and let them skate, reps will only come back harder the next time. Crush the snakes

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[omerome]

Most of Europe is going to experience a more robust recovery because many of those countries did a good job of keeping people afloat and out of bankruptcy. The carnage in the U.S. will reverberate for a decade since millions will have to rebuild their lives from scratch

Yup. If anything, the pandemic has only created a deeper divide between the wealthy and the poor.

What I really want to know is, how can someone recover when they have nothing? People can't live on crumbs. And then you have some people basically saying that they should be thankful that this is what they're getting. It's sickening.

[omerome]

This coward pushed the attempted coup and is crying b/c there would be consequences. If Dems don’t bash their head on and let them skate, reps will only come back harder the next time. Crush the snakes

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Yeah, that guy can kick boulders.

The GOP ignored all of the warnings from the Dems over the years where they begged for bipartisanship. From their horrible tax breaks to changing the rules simply to get their judges seated, for example. It was clear that the pendulum will swing back one day. The GOP only cared about one thing - power. Everything they did was to suit their own political needs and now that they are out of power, they want the Dems to lower the temperature? No that piece of trash and many others like him have turned up the heat in 90-degree weather, and they have to wear sweatpants.

Because as we all know, if they get power again, they will do whatever it takes to get what they want - without regard.

[3toheadmelo]

They found this terrorist

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[Capn'O]

They found this terrorist

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I figured he'd be one of the 55. What a dumbass.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/533221-federal-prosecutors-bring-charges-against-55-following-capitol-riot

[Pointgod]

Stephanie Rhule (idk who that is CNN maybe) was on the pivot podcast. Someone told her Manchin would flip to Rep if Dems win in GA. She called him and asked and he’s hell no.

Not related to what you’re talking about but since we’re talking about him

I called him the new most powerful man in the Senate.

Two things need to happen next. Successful workarounds on the filibuster (I posted about it; it is possible) and a dominant performance in the mid-terms. I don't know who is up for re-election, but the Dems need to figure out how to short circuit the filibuster and then build a cushion in the Senate so they can operate without obstruction. They'll get stuff done this next two years, but it will still be a grind and handicapped by guys like Manchin.

The Senate will attach some West Virginia relief provisions to the stimulus check bill that will make it next to impossible for him to vote against without great risk politically.

I’m betting that Manchin is just grandstanding because he knows that there won’t be 60 votes in the Senate to pass the 2000 dollar checks. This is why the Senate needs to get rid of the filibuster so then Manchin really doesn’t have as much power. You can dangle goodies for a single Republican Senator to be the 50th vote. I think people pay too much attention to Manchin.

[BKlutch]

They found this terrorist

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This SOB Barnett received over $9,000 in PPP funds. His application stated that he was protecting "One salary" for his business, which has only one salary.

That would be his.

Although his troubles are now more serious, he was expected to receive forgiveness of his PPP loan. Perhaps being a convicted felon (which we assume will happen) should be sufficient grounds for not forgiving his PPP loan.

Also, speaking of SOBs, where are the people who spent months denying Trump's true intentions to this board? Why aren't they here either asking for forgiveness or throwing in their lot with Ted Cruze and others? Were they persuing a selfish political agenda at the expense of the truth? "Many people have said" there are some very bad people on the RealGM boards. I mean, some of the people here are really nice. But "they say" there are many bad ones.

Hmmm...

[GONYK]

This coward pushed the attempted coup and is crying b/c there would be consequences. If Dems don’t bash their head on and let them skate, reps will only come back harder the next time. Crush the snakes

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This guy voted to overturn the election AFTER the attack, right?

[K_ick_God]

Good that they're arresting the people who broke into the building and they'll face criminal consequences. But, with that happening, you cannot let Trump skip town and go golfing without AT LEAST political consequences.

[robillionaire]

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[Phish Tank]

all these Trumpers arrested should really be held without bail in Rikers or San Quentin in solitary confinement. Wonder if they'll remain Trumpers after that.

[Clyde_Style]

I called him the new most powerful man in the Senate.

Two things need to happen next. Successful workarounds on the filibuster (I posted about it; it is possible) and a dominant performance in the mid-terms. I don't know who is up for re-election, but the Dems need to figure out how to short circuit the filibuster and then build a cushion in the Senate so they can operate without obstruction. They'll get stuff done this next two years, but it will still be a grind and handicapped by guys like Manchin.

The Senate will attach some West Virginia relief provisions to the stimulus check bill that will make it next to impossible for him to vote against without great risk politically.

I’m betting that Manchin is just grandstanding because he knows that there won’t be 60 votes in the Senate to pass the 2000 dollar checks. This is why the Senate needs to get rid of the filibuster so then Manchin really doesn’t have as much power. You can dangle goodies for a single Republican Senator to be the 50th vote. I think people pay too much attention to Manchin.

I hope you're right. There are tricks to subvert the filibuster, so it is possible. I'm no expert, but what I posted about it made it sound like you can create new rule precedents that basically de-fang it.