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2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2)

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They’re in our prison systems too. It’s a big problem along with the militias. They need to be dismantled. There will be blood. The civil war never really ended.
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They’re in our prison systems too. It’s a big problem along with the militias. They need to be dismantled. There will be blood. The civil war never really ended.


It has to be done. I'm expecting a major allocation of FBI resources dedicated to domestic terrorism which will take them deep into law enforcement
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Post#1207 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jan 9, 2021 6:14 pm

This is where Joe is weak. This is a failure on his part. They will spit on his hand like they spit on Obama’s. He can’t “save their souls.” Focus on policies that help Americans.

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Post#1208 » by robillionaire » Sat Jan 9, 2021 6:31 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:This is where Joe is weak. This is a failure in his part. They will spit on his hand like they spit on Obama’s. He can’t “save their souls.” Focus on policies that help Americans.

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He refuses to acknowledge that the GOP is no longer a conservative party but has completed a decades long morph into a far right wing reactionary nationalist party that doesn't simply want to conserve the status quo and halt progress like conservatives would, but actually want to roll back all social progress and return to a perceived former greatness which is one of the hallmarks of fascism. There are some conservatives in the GOP and they are on the margins compared to radical trump cultists who are now harassing the neocons on planes and in public spaces because they wouldn't feed into their delusion of election fraud and try to overturn democracy in the name of Trump. The current conservative party are the democrats, they are the ones trying to preserve the status quo of neoliberalism, minus a few progressives in the party on the margins similar to the Mitt Romneys in the GOP who are in the minority in their party and have very little power. If he wants a principled opposition, let it be progressives vs conservatives. We have absolutely no need for a reactionary neo-fascist party
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1209 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jan 9, 2021 6:32 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:This is where Joe is weak. This is a failure in his part. They will spit on his hand like they spit on Obama’s. He can’t “save their souls.” Focus on policies that help Americans.

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You're not seeing the forest for the trees Wingo. There is always more going on than meets the eye.

The irony is I was about to post about the need for the GOP to be led by sober people and then the violence broke out so it was not a good time to share that input.

Firstly, there is a strategic benefit to the GOP being led by more traditional Republicans, because if they take control of their party and disavow Trumpism it will shrink their base. IOW, it very much will lead to greater leveage in elections for the Dems, because if the GOP tries to flush out the terrorists it will push them to create a lunatic fringe third party which could pull millions of voters away from the Republican vote. The more successful anyone is at encouraging the sober elements of the GOP to take control, the more successful you are at turning the GOP into a true minority party. It is basic math.

Second, a split between a GOP that tries to save itself and the lunatic fringe will then pit the GOP vs. the new third party. IOW, it will more likely create areas of common cause between the GOP and the Dems on some legislation.

Third, the more the GOP fractures the less their opportunities to obstruct even in the minority using tools like the filibuster.

Fourth, the Dems gain nothing by playing overt vengeance politics. I'm fully aligned with everyone here when y'all say hold no quarter and ram through whatever legislation we can now and basically disregard the GOP's objections. But the fact of the matter is there are still politics to be played even if the Dems are holding the primary reins again, even after an insurrection, even with all the distaste in the world for the GOP.

Fifth, Biden's role is to play the peacemaker. That is his role. You completely misunderstand his function if you always act disappointed in him not being more acid towards the opposition. Other members of Congress will do the flamethrowing, abetted by small and occasional barbs by POTUS. Right now, the job of the President is to maintain calm, not incite anything. But that in no way means Biden is not royally pissed and that he is not going to empower his agencies to go after all of these traitorous MFs.

Sixth, and perhaps most important, is the less POTUS appears to be vindicitive, the more effective the wheels of justice will be able to roll and clean up this treason party. He very clearly stated he'll let DoJ make their decisions on whom to indict, but that in no way means he is not having conversations with Garland or Wray about it. IOW, that's politics. Do not misunderstand what Biden is doing. He is not a pushover in this. You guys keep saying that and it shows your thinking on this is very surfacey. Go deeper. There are so many moving parts to this.

Seventh, Biden is not stupid or weak. He's being smart. He's more politically savvy than Hillary was. Biden clearly learned from her mistakes. She made fatal errors in addressing these issues that Biden is tactfully side-stepping. It got him elected and it will help him govern.
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Post#1210 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Jan 9, 2021 6:35 pm

I might go to hell for this but sorry I can’t stop laughing about the terrorist who tazed himself in the balls and died :rofl:
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Post#1211 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jan 9, 2021 6:36 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:I might go to hell for this but sorry I can’t stop laughing about the terrorist who tazed himself in the balls and died :rofl:


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Post#1212 » by god shammgod » Sat Jan 9, 2021 6:41 pm

they wanted to hang mike pence ?!? life comes at you fast lol
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Post#1213 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jan 9, 2021 6:43 pm

god shammgod wrote:they wanted to hang mike pence ?!? life comes at you fast lol


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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1214 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jan 9, 2021 6:51 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:This is where Joe is weak. This is a failure in his part. They will spit on his hand like they spit on Obama’s. He can’t “save their souls.” Focus on policies that help Americans.

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You're not seeing the forest for the trees Wingo. There is always more going on than meets the eye.

The irony is I was about to post about the need for the GOP to be led by sober people and then the violence broke out so it was not a good time to share that input.

Firstly, there is a strategic benefit to the GOP being led by more traditional Republicans, because if they take control of their party and disavow Trumpism it will shrink their base. IOW, it very much will lead to greater leveage in elections for the Dems, because if the GOP tries to flush out the terrorists it will push them to create a lunatic fringe third party which could pull millions of voters away from the Republican vote. The more successful anyone is at encouraging the sober elements of the GOP to take control, the more successful you are at turning the GOP into a true minority party. It is basic math.

Second, a split between a GOP that tries to save itself and the lunatic fringe will then pit the GOP vs. the new third party. IOW, it will more likely create areas of common cause between the GOP and the Dems on some legislation.

Third, the more the GOP fractures the less their opportunities to obstruct even in the minority using tools like the filibuster.

Fourth, the Dems gain nothing by playing overt vengeance politics. I'm fully aligned with everyone here when y'all say hold no quarter and ram through whatever legislation we can now and basically disregard the GOP's objections. But the fact of the matter is there are still politics to be played even if the Dems are holding the primary reins again, even after an insurrection, even with all the distaste in the world for the GOP.

Fifth, Biden's role is to play the peacemaker. That is his role. You completely misunderstand his function if you always act disappointed in him not being more acid towards the opposition. Other members of Congress will do the flamethrowing, abetted by small and occasional barbs by POTUS. Right now, the job of the President is to maintain calm, not incite anything. But that in no way means Biden is not royally pissed and that he is not going to empower his agencies to go after all of these traitorous MFs.

Sixth, and perhaps most important, is the less POTUS appears to be vindicitive, the more effective the wheels of justice will be able to roll and clean up this treason party. He very clearly stated he'll let DoJ make their decisions on whom to indict, but that in no way means he is not having conversations with Garland or Wray about it. IOW, that's politics. Do not misunderstand what Biden is doing. He is not a pushover in this. You guys keep saying that and it shows your thinking on this is very surfacey. Go deeper. There are so many moving parts to this.

Seventh, Biden is not stupid or weak. He's being smart. He's more politically savvy than Hillary was. Biden clearly learned from her mistakes. She made fatal errors in addressing these issues that Biden is tactfully side-stepping. It got him elected and it will help him govern.


You’re being delusional. It’ll never happen. So now all of a sudden they’re going to get religion? Oh sorry about the last 40 years.

How’s all that work out for Obama? Please bro. Turning the other cheek is what got us to where we’re at.

Those who do not understand history are bound to repeat it.
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Post#1215 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jan 9, 2021 6:54 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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HarthorneWingo wrote:This is where Joe is weak. This is a failure in his part. They will spit on his hand like they spit on Obama’s. He can’t “save their souls.” Focus on policies that help Americans.

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You're not seeing the forest for the trees Wingo. There is always more going on than meets the eye.

The irony is I was about to post about the need for the GOP to be led by sober people and then the violence broke out so it was not a good time to share that input.

Firstly, there is a strategic benefit to the GOP being led by more traditional Republicans, because if they take control of their party and disavow Trumpism it will shrink their base. IOW, it very much will lead to greater leveage in elections for the Dems, because if the GOP tries to flush out the terrorists it will push them to create a lunatic fringe third party which could pull millions of voters away from the Republican vote. The more successful anyone is at encouraging the sober elements of the GOP to take control, the more successful you are at turning the GOP into a true minority party. It is basic math.

Second, a split between a GOP that tries to save itself and the lunatic fringe will then pit the GOP vs. the new third party. IOW, it will more likely create areas of common cause between the GOP and the Dems on some legislation.

Third, the more the GOP fractures the less their opportunities to obstruct even in the minority using tools like the filibuster.

Fourth, the Dems gain nothing by playing overt vengeance politics. I'm fully aligned with everyone here when y'all say hold no quarter and ram through whatever legislation we can now and basically disregard the GOP's objections. But the fact of the matter is there are still politics to be played even if the Dems are holding the primary reins again, even after an insurrection, even with all the distaste in the world for the GOP.

Fifth, Biden's role is to play the peacemaker. That is his role. You completely misunderstand his function if you always act disappointed in him not being more acid towards the opposition. Other members of Congress will do the flamethrowing, abetted by small and occasional barbs by POTUS. Right now, the job of the President is to maintain calm, not incite anything. But that in no way means Biden is not royally pissed and that he is not going to empower his agencies to go after all of these traitorous MFs.

Sixth, and perhaps most important, is the less POTUS appears to be vindicitive, the more effective the wheels of justice will be able to roll and clean up this treason party. He very clearly stated he'll let DoJ make their decisions on whom to indict, but that in no way means he is not having conversations with Garland or Wray about it. IOW, that's politics. Do not misunderstand what Biden is doing. He is not a pushover in this. You guys keep saying that and it shows your thinking on this is very surfacey. Go deeper. There are so many moving parts to this.

Seventh, Biden is not stupid or weak. He's being smart. He's more politically savvy than Hillary was. Biden clearly learned from her mistakes. She made fatal errors in addressing these issues that Biden is tactfully side-stepping. It got him elected and it will help him govern.


You’re being delusional. It’ll never happen. So now all of a sudden they’re going to get religion? Oh sorry about the last 40 years.

How’s all that work out for Obama? Please bro. Turning the other cheek is what got us to where we’re at.

Those who do not understand history are bound to repeat it.


It would be nice to get something substantive in reply, but you continue to demand performative politics done to appease your emotional temperament and it shows you have learned nothing, yet here you are telling me I don't know anything about history. You keep demonstrating you have really weak political instincts and just want the shrillest version of whatever floats your boat.
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1216 » by Fat Kat » Sat Jan 9, 2021 7:01 pm

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Post#1217 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jan 9, 2021 7:07 pm

Oh look! Here's a football coach from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga who just got fired for tweeting that Stacey Abrams cheated Georgians and Americans out of an election. These ass holes have permeated our country. But we can work with them. :lol:

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‘Hateful’ Tweet About Stacey Abrams Costs University Football Coach His Job
The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga said that it had parted ways with Chris Malone, an offensive line coach, over a now-deleted social media post.
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Jan. 8, 2021

An assistant football coach at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga lost his job after smearing Stacey Abrams and the state of Georgia in a tweet that perpetuated unsubstantiated claims of election fraud, university officials said on Thursday.

The coach, Chris Malone, was in his second season as an assistant and offensive line coach for the Mocs, according to a biography that was removed from the university’s athletics website.

Mr. Malone made the disparaging comments about Ms. Abrams, a former gubernatorial candidate and onetime Democratic House leader in Georgia, on Tuesday night after the runoff elections for the U.S. Senate in Georgia — races won by Democrats that will give them control of the Senate.

“Congratulations to the state of GA and Fat Albert @staceyabrams because you have truly shown America the true works of cheating in an election again!!!” Mr. Malone wrote. “Enjoy the buffet Big Girl! You earned it!!! Hope the money was good, still not governor!”

Mr. Malone later deleted the post, but not before other people took screen shots of it and widely shared it on social media.

“That tweet was hateful, hurtful and untrue,” Steven R. Angle, the university’s chancellor, said in a video posted on Thursday by the university on YouTube. “Coach Malone is no longer a part of this university.”

Mr. Angle said that Mr. Malone failed to meet the expectations of university faculty and staff to lead in way that maintains a respectful and tolerant campus environment.
“The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga does not tolerate and unequivocally condemns discrimination and hatred in all forms,” Mr. Angle said.

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Post#1218 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jan 9, 2021 7:09 pm

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Post#1219 » by dakomish23 » Sat Jan 9, 2021 7:11 pm

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It is encouraging to see Indian media do this, because Trump has a huge amount of Indian admirers both here and there. They need this thrown back in their faces


You’re not lying! I’m Indian and a lot of ppl in my immediate vicinity are Trumpers - parents, all my aunts and uncles, 1 of my sisters (where did I go wrong) cousins, so many friends, especially in TX & FL.

Do they really think these racist scumbags that pushed this narcissistic grifter into power won’t light them up too? Hilarious

They’re always the loudest about it too. The middle of the road folks or full left just keep it cool. I’m the rare exception of the loud mouth Indian anti trumper. It’s always me versus 10 ppl in every chat :lol:
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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1220 » by dakomish23 » Sat Jan 9, 2021 7:12 pm

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That part we’ve known. The police head had a damn Q mug in his office.

I’m saying who are the non Trumpers who can’t or won’t accept it?
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