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2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2)

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Re: 2020 Presidential Election Thread presents: The Aftermath (Part 2) 

Post#1261 » by BKlutch » Sat Jan 9, 2021 10:37 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:Twitter has also banned Michael Flynn and Sidney Powell

I learned they banned Lin Wood last week


You know the getting banned from Twitter hurts Trump worse than his dead fellow terrorists from the capitol, or 300000 dead Americans from covid

Because he doesn't care at all if people die. He cares only about his personal status.
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Post#1262 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jan 9, 2021 10:52 pm

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I did. You just won't acknowledge that. You think Biden is going to court republicans with flowers and candy? "C'mon guys, it's me. Joey Biden, not the Black guy." And then the clouds will disappear, the oceans will calm, then Democrats and Republicans can hold hands, sing kumbaya and finally cut Medicare and Social Security.


You know what I don’t necessarily disagree with your point but let’s assume Biden goes on the podium and labels ALL Republicans as traitors (including the ones like Romney who stood up) and enemies of the people, okay then what? What has been achieved? What thoughts have been changed?

After 4 years of Trump dividing the country do you think it makes sense for a Biden to continue to divide the country? Also do you think the Democrats will be in power forever? Despite the pipe dream of a multi party system, the fact is that there are two parties and a government can’t function if one of those parties are always at odds with each other. The Republican QAnon party needs to be completely purged and replaced by another Republican Party or next time they’re in power the country is completely ****. And this can’t happen unless the political incentives for Republican politicians are changed


TheHill does a good job posting these Biden videos and then adding just one sentence in the entire conversation, just for the progressives on Twitter to go nuts so they can then talk about it on their platforms next week.

With that said, he's not going to simply denounce every single Republican at this moment. He still needs a lot of them, even with a 50/50 senate. He's gonna need them when it comes to confirmations, especially with no margin of error available. It's some political grandstanding.

I get Wingo's overall point though. I just think his message is directly to the Senate more than it is for the kooks in the House like Nestor's illegitimate father.


I’m saying take advantage of the leverage we have. If they want to show the American people that they will start doing the business of governing to improve the situation here, then they can either join us or suffer more political fallout. To me, this is a pretty straightforward strategy. They need to show Democrats that are now honest partners. We don’t dance for those criminals. They were all complicit.
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Post#1263 » by Phish Tank » Sat Jan 9, 2021 11:01 pm

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You know what I don’t necessarily disagree with your point but let’s assume Biden goes on the podium and labels ALL Republicans as traitors (including the ones like Romney who stood up) and enemies of the people, okay then what? What has been achieved? What thoughts have been changed?

After 4 years of Trump dividing the country do you think it makes sense for a Biden to continue to divide the country? Also do you think the Democrats will be in power forever? Despite the pipe dream of a multi party system, the fact is that there are two parties and a government can’t function if one of those parties are always at odds with each other. The Republican QAnon party needs to be completely purged and replaced by another Republican Party or next time they’re in power the country is completely ****. And this can’t happen unless the political incentives for Republican politicians are changed


TheHill does a good job posting these Biden videos and then adding just one sentence in the entire conversation, just for the progressives on Twitter to go nuts so they can then talk about it on their platforms next week.

With that said, he's not going to simply denounce every single Republican at this moment. He still needs a lot of them, even with a 50/50 senate. He's gonna need them when it comes to confirmations, especially with no margin of error available. It's some political grandstanding.

I get Wingo's overall point though. I just think his message is directly to the Senate more than it is for the kooks in the House like Nestor's illegitimate father.


I’m saying take advantage of the leverage we have. If they want to show the American people that they will start doing the business of governing to improve the situation here, then they can either join us or suffer more political fallout. To me, this is a pretty straightforward strategy. They need to show Democrats that are now honest partners. We don’t dance for those criminals. They were all complicit.


Guess we should wait till January 20th, the moment where his words will be put to the test. Will he renege or will he follow through.... his actions, not pre-inaugural words, will dictate the fate of his presidency. Anything said between now and then is just political theatrics. That's when the leverage is realized.
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Post#1268 » by vallen » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:25 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:This is where Joe is weak. This is a failure on his part. They will spit on his hand like they spit on Obama’s. He can’t “save their souls.” Focus on policies that help Americans.

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Post#1269 » by dakomish23 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:12 am

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Post#1275 » by dakomish23 » Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:57 am

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Post#1276 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:04 am

When the news first broke that Rudy Giuliani tried to call new Republican Senator Tommy Tuberville to ask him to overthrow the election results, but mistakenly left a voicemail for a different Senator instead, it was largely written off as just Rudy being Rudy. Of course his half-functioning brain called the wrong person while trying to carry out a crime.

But now CNN is reporting that Donald Trump also tried calling Tuberville during the U.S. Capitol attack, and also mistakenly called the same other Senator instead. That is certainly not a coincidence.


The fact that Trump and Giuliani both tried to call the same senator during the capitol attack, but each called the same wrong number, is proof that Trump and Giuliani were conspiring together during the attack. One of them gave the other the wrong phone number to call, or the same person gave them each the wrong number.


When it comes to prosecuting people for something like inciting violence, proving coordination is key to proving conspiracy. Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani were coordinating with each other during the attack, or they were each conspiring with the same third party. It’s already becoming clear that Trump tried making these demands of the Senate while he was refusing to sign off on sending in the National Guard, meaning he was holding them hostage and blackmailing them. Now it turns out Trump and Giuliani were coordinating this effort.
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Post#1277 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:13 am

It is time to revisit Adam Schiff's legendary speech of truly historical importance. It echoes in my ears to this day and was prophetic in its accuracy.
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Post#1278 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:55 am

vallen wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:This is where Joe is weak. This is a failure on his part. They will spit on his hand like they spit on Obama’s. He can’t “save their souls.” Focus on policies that help Americans.

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Bipartisanship is something we will always need in order to stay a Democracy. And they didnt spit in Obama's hands, hell the Busch's and Obama's not only share candy but American values as well. Trump was far from a normal Republican.


Because of Michelle and W shared a piece of candy at a funeral service shows that the Republicans worked with Obama? Who was the "normal" Republican? The guy that lied us into longest running wars in American history? The crooks that got us into Iran-Contra and then one pardoned the other. Or how about the Watergate guy?

Mitch McConnell said from Day 1 of Obama's presidency that his job - their job - is to make Obama a one-term president. They fought him on EVERYTHING. Do you really deny that? When have republicans showed any sense of bipartisanship over the past four years while the crazy orange guy ruined this country? You're in for rude awakening, and I'll be right here to enjoy it, when you discover that the republicans will somehow "see the light" after this insurrection. Over 50% of republicans think that the riot at the Capitol was BIDEN'S FAULT! :lol: That's how cra cra they are.

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Post#1279 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:58 am

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Post#1280 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:59 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
When the news first broke that Rudy Giuliani tried to call new Republican Senator Tommy Tuberville to ask him to overthrow the election results, but mistakenly left a voicemail for a different Senator instead, it was largely written off as just Rudy being Rudy. Of course his half-functioning brain called the wrong person while trying to carry out a crime.

But now CNN is reporting that Donald Trump also tried calling Tuberville during the U.S. Capitol attack, and also mistakenly called the same other Senator instead. That is certainly not a coincidence.


The fact that Trump and Giuliani both tried to call the same senator during the capitol attack, but each called the same wrong number, is proof that Trump and Giuliani were conspiring together during the attack. One of them gave the other the wrong phone number to call, or the same person gave them each the wrong number.


When it comes to prosecuting people for something like inciting violence, proving coordination is key to proving conspiracy. Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani were coordinating with each other during the attack, or they were each conspiring with the same third party. It’s already becoming clear that Trump tried making these demands of the Senate while he was refusing to sign off on sending in the National Guard, meaning he was holding them hostage and blackmailing them. Now it turns out Trump and Giuliani were coordinating this effort.

What's the source here? I mean this seems obvious by now, but still is not reported clearly or frequently enough imo.

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