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alamin330 wrote:If I had to make a bet right now I would bet against the suns making the playoffs. That 7-3 is fool’s gold.
Barkley6 wrote:alamin330 wrote:If I had to make a bet right now I would bet against the suns making the playoffs. That 7-3 is fool’s gold.
We're currently on pace to win 50. But even if we only won 40-42, in a 72 game season that's enough to make the playoffs. I don't know if we are championship contenders or not, but we are definitely a playoff team.
lilfishi22 wrote:alamin330 wrote:Blonde wrote:Ayton gets the ball plenty. Last year he led the league in paint touches per game and this year he’s right up there again. There’s only so much you can do for a guy who can’t consistently create his own offense. He doesn’t look to score. Obviously I want to see him scoring more, but most of the effort is going to need to come from him, not the rest of the team or even coaches. He can get his own within this offense, we’ve seen.
I think this is a simplified response. Ayton gets the ball in crowded paint positions and has to pass. He does not get the ball in scoring position.
What do you mean scoring position? Like wide open? Single coverage? Open midrange? He gets those touches too when we can generate them and he passes those off too
spanishninja wrote:Barkley6 wrote:alamin330 wrote:If I had to make a bet right now I would bet against the suns making the playoffs. That 7-3 is fool’s gold.
We're currently on pace to win 50. But even if we only won 40-42, in a 72 game season that's enough to make the playoffs. I don't know if we are championship contenders or not, but we are definitely a playoff team.
also, at the very minimum, we're playing better than we did last season around this time if there weren't injuries or suspensions. Last year if we had kept our whole team intact and healthy, we would have been a 40 win club easily, and in the playoffs.
alamin330 wrote:17-52 from 3 in the Pistons game. That’s NUTS
King4Day wrote:alamin330 wrote:17-52 from 3 in the Pistons game. That’s NUTS
Don't forget we were 1-7 from the FT line in the first quarter, including 0-6 from Book/DA/Bridges.
That game, as far as shooting is concerned, was an anomaly and it cost us.
alamin330 wrote:Just watch the last two offensive possessions for the suns before halftime against the pacers. Ayton was wide open twice first time CP3 ignores DA and shoots a crazy 3. Next play Ayton in his spot CP3 throws him some lazy behind the back terrible pass
alamin330 wrote:spanishninja wrote:Barkley6 wrote:
We're currently on pace to win 50. But even if we only won 40-42, in a 72 game season that's enough to make the playoffs. I don't know if we are championship contenders or not, but we are definitely a playoff team.
also, at the very minimum, we're playing better than we did last season around this time if there weren't injuries or suspensions. Last year if we had kept our whole team intact and healthy, we would have been a 40 win club easily, and in the playoffs.
Who doesn’t make it that made it last year? Thunder? I think Thunder are good. I also think CP3 got a lot of credit for that team last year but I think they would’ve made it without him.
1.Lakers
2. Clippers
3. Denver
4. Portland
5. Utah
6. Dallas
I think those teams are all better than suns. That means suns will have to fight with pelicans, warriors, rockets and thunder for the last 2 spots. That’s going to be hard to do.
spanishninja wrote:alamin330 wrote:spanishninja wrote:
also, at the very minimum, we're playing better than we did last season around this time if there weren't injuries or suspensions. Last year if we had kept our whole team intact and healthy, we would have been a 40 win club easily, and in the playoffs.
Who doesn’t make it that made it last year? Thunder? I think Thunder are good. I also think CP3 got a lot of credit for that team last year but I think they would’ve made it without him.
1.Lakers
2. Clippers
3. Denver
4. Portland
5. Utah
6. Dallas
I think those teams are all better than suns. That means suns will have to fight with pelicans, warriors, rockets and thunder for the last 2 spots. That’s going to be hard to do.
What makes you automatically put down Portland and Denver in place of us? Aside from Lakers and Clippers, there are no guarantees. That list maybe makes sense if you only go by preseason speculation, but what we're seeing now isn't quite the same.
bwgood77 wrote:spanishninja wrote:alamin330 wrote:Who doesn’t make it that made it last year? Thunder? I think Thunder are good. I also think CP3 got a lot of credit for that team last year but I think they would’ve made it without him.
1.Lakers
2. Clippers
3. Denver
4. Portland
5. Utah
6. Dallas
I think those teams are all better than suns. That means suns will have to fight with pelicans, warriors, rockets and thunder for the last 2 spots. That’s going to be hard to do.
What makes you automatically put down Portland and Denver in place of us? Aside from Lakers and Clippers, there are no guarantees. That list maybe makes sense if you only go by preseason speculation, but what we're seeing now isn't quite the same.
It may all come down to injuries, COVID, etc. We were 7-4 last year without Ayton...before Baynes got injured.
Most all teams in the west are 500 or better.
Ultimately our starters need to play better together or we won't go too far. They have been outscored so far.
bwgood77 wrote:spanishninja wrote:alamin330 wrote:Who doesn’t make it that made it last year? Thunder? I think Thunder are good. I also think CP3 got a lot of credit for that team last year but I think they would’ve made it without him.
1.Lakers
2. Clippers
3. Denver
4. Portland
5. Utah
6. Dallas
I think those teams are all better than suns. That means suns will have to fight with pelicans, warriors, rockets and thunder for the last 2 spots. That’s going to be hard to do.
What makes you automatically put down Portland and Denver in place of us? Aside from Lakers and Clippers, there are no guarantees. That list maybe makes sense if you only go by preseason speculation, but what we're seeing now isn't quite the same.
It may all come down to injuries, COVID, etc. We were 7-4 last year without Ayton...before Baynes got injured.
Most all teams in the west are 500 or better.
Ultimately our starters need to play better together or we won't go too far. They have been outscored so far.
alamin330 wrote:I’m done though. Happy for the 7-3 start but I think we will be more of a 500 team going forward especially when we start playing more on the road against better teams.
We will continue to give up a lot of 2nd chance points because everyone but Ayton is at the 3pt line.
We will continue to be the worst ft team because everything is a 3 or jump shot.
Hopefully they figure it out sooner than later cuz judging from the pistons game it looks like this team is easy to beat if the 3 isn’t falling
Saberestar wrote:alamin330 wrote:Just watch the last two offensive possessions for the suns before halftime against the pacers. Ayton was wide open twice first time CP3 ignores DA and shoots a crazy 3. Next play Ayton in his spot CP3 throws him some lazy behind the back terrible pass
Some play here or there do not change the fact that we won to the Pacers on the road coming back of a tough loss in OT.
Ayton is not a selfish player, he does not care about his numbers and that is a nice.
That is why I do not think he cares about those details that you are commenting...not a problem for anyone.
bwoolf2 wrote:alamin330 wrote:I’m done though. Happy for the 7-3 start but I think we will be more of a 500 team going forward especially when we start playing more on the road against better teams.
We will continue to give up a lot of 2nd chance points because everyone but Ayton is at the 3pt line.
We will continue to be the worst ft team because everything is a 3 or jump shot.
Hopefully they figure it out sooner than later cuz judging from the pistons game it looks like this team is easy to beat if the 3 isn’t falling
Bruh you sure do like to complain, Book could win the map, we could win the championship and you would want to start the team over
