Game 11: Phoenix Suns (7-3) @ Washington Wizards (2-8) l Monday l 5:00pm l FSNAZ

[lilfishi22]

Laughing at the Ayton lovers who finally realize he's complete trash, bust and a scrub. All of you should apologize to Luka.
I hope they trade his goofy arse at the trade deadline

It's no coincidence that JJ drafted Stix. Ayton not his man and trade is behind the corner.

[Keith_myath]

We've got plenty of scoring options and Ayton is only getting around 12ppg. (haven't looked at his stats)

We can easily find a 7'0 with hustle and aggression, with the ability to draw fouls, who can get up between 8-14ppg and 12rpg and a solid defender. Doesn't need to be a star, just a hustler.

[SlovenianDragon]

STOP BLAMING AYTON FOR ****.

This is all on monty and cp3.

CP3 is the new head coach and monty is his bitch.

We could have just kept Rubio and moved Oubre...

Now we are playing some slow cp3 **** that just ends up with shooting 3s...

3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s

3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s3s 3s

Oh crap were down 40? w.e some1 shoot a 3!

[Jarlaxle0204]

Devin finally hitting 30 in the one game all year that was never in reach feels soooo 2 years ago

Do you think that's just a coincidence?

No doubt he's playing hard but has barely passed...fewer open 3s unless they sidestep a defender 1st.

You're out of your mind. Booker has clearly been trying to pass more all season (to the detriment of the team imo). Who should he have passed to tonight? How many missed threes? It felt like he was the only one with any energy out there aside from Mikail in the 2nd half. Cam had energy too but just couldn't buy a bucket. Booker is the reason we weren't down 50 instead of 30.

[alamin330]

Everyone still in denial? Ayton doesn’t get the ball. If I was him I wouldn’t be playing hard either. All that running around setting picks and I never get the ball. I think Ayton is already unhappy but team was winning. Now the losing is going to start.

[cberry78]

DAMMIT!

SIXTY-EIGHT.
AND.
FOUR.

[KLEON]

Sign Amare to a 10 day.

[lilfishi22]

We've got plenty of scoring options and Ayton is only getting around 12ppg. (haven't looked at his stats)

We can easily find a 7'0 with hustle and aggression, with the ability to draw fouls, who can get up between 8-14ppg and 12rpg and a solid defender. Doesn't need to be a star, just a hustler.

This is the hard part, especially when it comes to PnR defense. Few big men are able to contain PnR ball handlers as well as Ayton. Offensively, totally agree.

[bwgood77]

Laughing at the Ayton lovers who finally realize he's complete trash, bust and a scrub. All of you should apologize to Luka.
I hope they trade his goofy arse at the trade deadline

Hey Mr. "We should draft Ayton #1!" I wasn't one of the 109 people who wanted him because watching him in college I let everyone know he is a finesse player, likes to pass and looks lost on defense.

I wanted Doncic.

However, Ayton has improved in areas more than I expected him to, despite some of these games like tonight where he played like ass.

This would probably never happen but I wish we do draft Ayton with the 1st pick and with Doncic not sure he wants to be in the NBA I hope teams pass on him until the 16 pick and then we draft him.

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1706063&p=66216887#p66216887

Perhaps YOU should be apologizing to Luka?

[SlovenianDragon]

THIS **** IS ALL ON MONTY AND CP3

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT

[KLEON]

Everyone still in denial? Ayton doesn’t get the ball. If I was him I wouldn’t be playing hard either. All that running around setting picks and I never get the ball. I think Ayton is already unhappy but team was winning. Now the losing is going to start.

Every time he gets the ball in the post he passes it back out when he realize that he can't manage the defender. He sets weak screens and I've never seen him demand the ball. He has CP3 who's one of the best PG in the league and you never see him try to run a PnR and PnP, Ayton is a bust, just admit it

[bwgood77]

It's no coincidence that JJ drafted Stix. Ayton not his man and trade is behind the corner.

We'll get half an eaten bag of chips.

I'm all for not maxing him out, but wtf are we going to get in any return in a trade?

Cant keep both Bridges and Johnson in future if there is plan to give Ayton extension also.

Sure we can. I seriously doubt we give Ayton close to the max based on what we see now. I don't think Cam will be that expensive either.

[SlovenianDragon]

Everyone still in denial? Ayton doesn’t get the ball. If I was him I wouldn’t be playing hard either. All that running around setting picks and I never get the ball. I think Ayton is already unhappy but team was winning. Now the losing is going to start.

Every time he gets the ball in the post he passes it back out when he realize that he can't manage the defender. He sets weak screens and I've never seen him demand the ball. He has CP3 who's one of the best PG in the league and you never see him try to run a PnR and PnP, Ayton is a bust, just admit it

hes doing what the coaches tell him to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I bet Ayton would alrdy be an all-star on another team.

I hope we trade him and he wrecks the league.

We dont deserve Ayton if people think any of these losses are on aytons shoulders.

**** off.

[Keith_myath]

We've got plenty of scoring options and Ayton is only getting around 12ppg. (haven't looked at his stats)

We can easily find a 7'0 with hustle and aggression, with the ability to draw fouls, who can get up between 8-14ppg and 12rpg and a solid defender. Doesn't need to be a star, just a hustler.

This is the hard part, especially when it comes to PnR defense. Few big men are able to contain PnR ball handlers as well as Ayton. Offensively, totally agree.

What we'd lose on the PnR defense, we'd gain in a reduction in opposition offensive rebounds and easy put backs.

Lopez, who has played for nearly every bottom ranked team had 3 offensive rebounds out of his 1st 5. While he may have improved his PnR defense, those sorts of stats against you are inexcusable.

[KLEON]

Laughing at the Ayton lovers who finally realize he's complete trash, bust and a scrub. All of you should apologize to Luka.
I hope they trade his goofy arse at the trade deadline

Hey Mr. "We should draft Ayton #1!" I wasn't one of the 109 people who wanted him because watching him in college I let everyone know he is a finesse player, likes to pass and looks lost on defense.

I wanted Doncic.

However, Ayton has improved in areas more than I expected him to, despite some of these games like tonight where he played like ass.

This would probably never happen but I wish we do draft Ayton with the 1st pick and with Doncic not sure he wants to be in the NBA I hope teams pass on him until the 16 pick and then we draft him.

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1706063&p=66216887#p66216887

Perhaps YOU should be apologizing to Luka?

IDK what you are trying to do but I didn't type that trash. Are trying to frame me to make a point?

[SlovenianDragon]

Every time we missed a 3 it was because of Aytonnnn

[alamin330]

Maybe it's overreacting but it might be time to start thinking about a starting lineup change. Cam Johnson for Crowder. He could help snuff the slow starts. Or, dare I say, Saric for Ayton?

Hello no. Cam Johnson and bridges together is gonna be a 3pt contest

[Keith_myath]

Something the good rebounders of the last 25 years have done is always look to make contact with their opponent when they were going for the rebound and not boxed out. Refs won't call anything if you jump into your man slightly while keeping your eyes on the ball and your hands directed to the ball. They've always deemed it accidental contact.

[lilfishi22]

We've got plenty of scoring options and Ayton is only getting around 12ppg. (haven't looked at his stats)

We can easily find a 7'0 with hustle and aggression, with the ability to draw fouls, who can get up between 8-14ppg and 12rpg and a solid defender. Doesn't need to be a star, just a hustler.

This is the hard part, especially when it comes to PnR defense. Few big men are able to contain PnR ball handlers as well as Ayton. Offensively, totally agree.

What we'd lose on the PnR defense, we'd gain in a reduction in opposition offensive rebounds and easy put backs.

Lopez, who has played for nearly every bottom ranked team had 3 offensive rebounds out of his 1st 5. While he may have improved his PnR defense, those sorts of stats against you are inexcusable.

Not sure that's the case. Big part of why we're good defensively for the first time in like 15years is because of Ayton's ability to cover the PnR and recover to disrupt shots in the paint. Our offense works because he works well with Bridges and their combined length covers such a massive area of the court. I don't think we make up what we lose defensively, especially if we get a big who gets played off the court because they don't have a hope to contain the PnR.

[bwgood77]

Devin finally hitting 30 in the one game all year that was never in reach feels soooo 2 years ago

Do you think that's just a coincidence?

No doubt he's playing hard but has barely passed...fewer open 3s unless they sidestep a defender 1st.

You're out of your mind. Booker has clearly been trying to pass more all season (to the detriment of the team imo). Who should he have passed to tonight? How many missed threes? It felt like he was the only one with any energy out there aside from Mikail in the 2nd half. Cam had energy too but just couldn't buy a bucket. Booker is the reason we weren't down 50 instead of 30.

The missed 3s were not clean looks with great ball movement around the perimeter like we see sometimes. At least half of them were awkward 3s where they had to side step a defender or had a defender coming quickly and had to launch it quickly and there were airballs, just hitting backboard, etc.

It was just ugly ball movement. I'm not talking about him starting to pass later necessarily but coming out with the mindset of playing team ball instead of scoring more than Beal.

He did play hard and scored a lot of points,and did well from the line, so maybe it helped his confidence for the future, but if he just tries to do it all himself and shoot 21 times with no assists...we simply won't be winning a lot of games.

He had a couple of games a lot where he passed to guys quickly and had two straight 6-8 assist games with no turnovers. That's the way we need to play...we have also won big when he was not necessarily the main guy and everyone on the team got about an equal number of shots and we have the ability to shoot well when we play team ball.

I know a lot of people just want a lot of points from Booker regardless of a win or loss, but I prefer to win, regardless of individual performance. Same goes for Ayton..I don't care how many points he scores if we win.