Game 11: Phoenix Suns (7-3) @ Washington Wizards (2-8) l Monday l 5:00pm l FSNAZ

[KLEON]

Laughing at the Ayton lovers who finally realize he's complete trash, bust and a scrub. All of you should apologize to Luka.
I hope they trade his goofy arse at the trade deadline

Hey Mr. "We should draft Ayton #1!" I wasn't one of the 109 people who wanted him because watching him in college I let everyone know he is a finesse player, likes to pass and looks lost on defense.

I wanted Doncic.

However, Ayton has improved in areas more than I expected him to, despite some of these games like tonight where he played like ass.

This would probably never happen but I wish we do draft Ayton with the 1st pick and with Doncic not sure he wants to be in the NBA I hope teams pass on him until the 16 pick and then we draft him.

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Perhaps YOU should be apologizing to Luka?

IDK what you are trying to do but I didn't type that trash. Are trying to frame me to make a point?

Let me apologize, I just remembered typing that in the past but that was when I thought D.A would be the next Admiral and I also wanted Luka on the team too so I was hoping other teams would pass on him until the 16 pick( phx pick) because he wasn't sure he wanted to come to the NBA yet

[SlovenianDragon]

Maybe it's overreacting but it might be time to start thinking about a starting lineup change. Cam Johnson for Crowder. He could help snuff the slow starts. Or, dare I say, Saric for Ayton?

Hello no. Cam Johnson and bridges together is gonna be a 3pt contest

Thats all our offense is anyway...

And then we miss enough 3s we will all blame ayton for the loss.

[lilfishi22]

Maybe it's overreacting but it might be time to start thinking about a starting lineup change. Cam Johnson for Crowder. He could help snuff the slow starts. Or, dare I say, Saric for Ayton?

Hello no. Cam Johnson and bridges together is gonna be a 3pt contest

We get it. You hate 3's. You want to go back to dumping the ball into the low post so Ayton gets 20 shot attempts

[alamin330]

Everyone wants to blame Ayton for everything. Lol. Ayton isn’t the one missing 4 3s straight and then airballing his next one where he’s wide open. Ayton isn’t the one hitting the backboard on a 3 attempt getting it back by a Jones off rebound and shooting it again and misssing worse with a new shot clock.
Ayton also isn’t Jae crowder down 20 + in the 4th on a fast break shooting a 3 with nothing but no one in rebounding position. Lmao. If you think Ayton is the problem you must just not like him as a human. He’s the last person to blame for this.

[bwgood77]

Everyone still in denial? Ayton doesn’t get the ball. If I was him I wouldn’t be playing hard either. All that running around setting picks and I never get the ball. I think Ayton is already unhappy but team was winning. Now the losing is going to start.

They passed it to him a few times earlier and he took some shots and started out cold before finally hitting a deep two. But they really didn't get it to him down low...where if he doesn't try and score he can always find an open shooter.

One of the only times they got it to him down low, though, he dunked it.

[Sunlight]

Every time we missed a 3 it was because of Aytonnnn

BTW why Ayton has practiced a lot of threes? Why Monty hiding that secret weapon.

[alamin330]

Maybe it's overreacting but it might be time to start thinking about a starting lineup change. Cam Johnson for Crowder. He could help snuff the slow starts. Or, dare I say, Saric for Ayton?

Hello no. Cam Johnson and bridges together is gonna be a 3pt contest

We get it. You hate 3's. You want to go back to dumping the ball into the low post so Ayton gets 20 shot attempts

It’s called a balance. This team is really pathetic

[SlovenianDragon]

THIS BOARD RIGHT NOW...

WINGS MISS 3S
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AYTON SUCKS.


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

dude doesnt get a chance watch the game not box scores.

[bwgood77]

It's no coincidence that JJ drafted Stix. Ayton not his man and trade is behind the corner.

JJ drafted Stix simply because he liked him....this team wasn't good enough at draft time to draft thinking like that...you take who you think is the BPA...and also Ayton was coming off an 18/12 season with vastly improved defense. They didn't draft some guy many thought was questionable at #10 because they didn't like their rapidly improving 18/12 center they took at #1. Despite mistakes, his gravity usually attracts attention if they pass to him down low early and often....whether or not he has gone hard at the rim, tried to lay it in, made a hook or fadeaway shot, or passed it out to an open 3 pt shooter.

[alamin330]

Rubio > CP3

[Revived]

We need Ayton to be effective on the days when our 3s are not falling. Him not being a threat on days where we do hit our 3s like the Pacers game is fine because we don’t need it.

But when our 3s don’t fall, he needs to be the guy that can give us the inside scoring to stay in the game. That’s why we spend a #1 overall pick on him. The few games our 3s don’t fall, those are the days we need him to pick up the slack offensively.

I don’t know if they can justify giving him a $15M/yr contract next summer without him dominating in these easy matchups.

[bwgood77]

Everyone still in denial? Ayton doesn’t get the ball. If I was him I wouldn’t be playing hard either. All that running around setting picks and I never get the ball. I think Ayton is already unhappy but team was winning. Now the losing is going to start.

Every time he gets the ball in the post he passes it back out when he realize that he can't manage the defender. He sets weak screens and I've never seen him demand the ball. He has CP3 who's one of the best PG in the league and you never see him try to run a PnR and PnP, Ayton is a bust, just admit it

Ayton may not be great, but he's not a bust. Plenty of other bigs in that draft were though.

Didn't you want Skal Labissiere in the offseason? Still think he's the answer?

[alamin330]

We need Ayton to be effective on the days when our 3s are not falling. Him not being a threat on days where we do hit our 3s like the Pacers is fine because we don’t need it.

But when our 3s don’t fall, he needs to be the guy that can give us the inside scoring to stay in the game. That’s why we spend a #1 overall pick on him. The few games our 3s don’t fall, those are the days we need him to pick up the slack offensively.

I don’t know if they can justify giving him a $15M/yr contract next summer without him dominating in these easy matchups.

THEY DONT PASS HIM THE BALL!!!!!!! Hello are you there

[KLEON]

Everyone still in denial? Ayton doesn’t get the ball. If I was him I wouldn’t be playing hard either. All that running around setting picks and I never get the ball. I think Ayton is already unhappy but team was winning. Now the losing is going to start.

They passed it to him a few times earlier and he took some shots and started out cold before finally hitting a deep two. But they really didn't get it to him down low...where if he doesn't try and score he can always find an open shooter.

One of the only times they got it to him down low, though, he dunked it.

OMG just stop. Ayton doesn't post up down low. He gets the ball mid range and shoots a face up shot or a quick fade away. That one play you're talking about when he dunked the ball he was all by his lonesome down low

[SlovenianDragon]

If Ayton gets blamed for every game we lose....He should get credit for every game that we win.

I mean honestly people are blind to this teams weakness and its not Ayton.

[lilfishi22]

THIS BOARD RIGHT NOW...

WINGS MISS 3S
=
AYTON SUCKS.


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

dude doesnt get a chance watch the game not box scoresTonight.

Tonight's suckage was a team effort. Everybody contributed to us being blown out by one of the worst teams in the NBA. No, Ayton wasn't the reasons our wings couldn't hit the side of the barn today but he did us no favours either by being entirely useless on both end of the court.

[bwgood77]

We've got plenty of scoring options and Ayton is only getting around 12ppg. (haven't looked at his stats)

We can easily find a 7'0 with hustle and aggression, with the ability to draw fouls, who can get up between 8-14ppg and 12rpg and a solid defender. Doesn't need to be a star, just a hustler.

This is the hard part, especially when it comes to PnR defense. Few big men are able to contain PnR ball handlers as well as Ayton. Offensively, totally agree.

What we'd lose on the PnR defense, we'd gain in a reduction in opposition offensive rebounds and easy put backs.

Lopez, who has played for nearly every bottom ranked team had 3 offensive rebounds out of his 1st 5. While he may have improved his PnR defense, those sorts of stats against you are inexcusable.

It's still primarily because he had switched out on the perimeter on most of those possessions. I think Lopez got a couple when they were both inside, but he didn't outmuscle Ayton for 7 offensive boards.

[KLEON]

Everyone still in denial? Ayton doesn’t get the ball. If I was him I wouldn’t be playing hard either. All that running around setting picks and I never get the ball. I think Ayton is already unhappy but team was winning. Now the losing is going to start.

Every time he gets the ball in the post he passes it back out when he realize that he can't manage the defender. He sets weak screens and I've never seen him demand the ball. He has CP3 who's one of the best PG in the league and you never see him try to run a PnR and PnP, Ayton is a bust, just admit it

Ayton may not be great, but he's not a bust. Plenty of other bigs in that draft were though.

Didn't you want Skal Labissiere in the offseason? Still think he's the answer?

HELL YEAH!!!! I'm still shocked he's not in the league

[Revived]

We need Ayton to be effective on the days when our 3s are not falling. Him not being a threat on days where we do hit our 3s like the Pacers is fine because we don’t need it.

But when our 3s don’t fall, he needs to be the guy that can give us the inside scoring to stay in the game. That’s why we spend a #1 overall pick on him. The few games our 3s don’t fall, those are the days we need him to pick up the slack offensively.

I don’t know if they can justify giving him a $15M/yr contract next summer without him dominating in these easy matchups.

THEY DONT PASS HIM THE BALL!!!!!!! Hello are you there

They do pass him the ball and he passes it right back. The other times he’s not looking to get the ball. He doesn’t establish himself down low.

Do you think if swapped Ayton for Towns, KAT would still average the lowly amount of pts that Ayton does? No, he would average 20 and 10 on this same team that apparently doesn’t pass to its big man.

[Revived]

THIS BOARD RIGHT NOW...

WINGS MISS 3S
=
AYTON SUCKS.


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

dude doesnt get a chance watch the game not box scoresTonight.

Tonight's suckage was a team effort. Everybody contributed to us being blown out by one of the worst teams in the NBA. No, Ayton wasn't the reasons our wings couldn't hit the side of the barn today but he did us no favours either by being entirely useless on both end of the court.

People don’t understand that Ayton needs to be our answer on the days when our 3s not falling.

If Ayton can’t be blamed when he sucks offensively when the 3s are falling and we win and he can’t be blamed when he sucks offensively when the 3s are not falling, then that’s just foolish imo.

And today he was hot garbage defensively as well. Robin freakin Lopez took his lunch.